Based on what I understand, the charging is based on the points, be it light or power socket. E.g. one light point is between RM 90 - RM140 (recent quotation I received). For 13A socket, RM 120 per point. 15A socket (for owen, washing machine, fridge), it is about RM 230 per point.

Have you checked the condition of the wiring?

I recently rebuild a new house. The wireman proposed 1.5m2 wire for the light. Out of curiosity, I checked my existing condo (which is 30 years old). The wire is much biger diameter. So, I think old propoerties used better quality materials. Of course, that also depends who was the developer.

Thanks for your advice.

Indeed a lot of electricians are cheating nowsaday. I fired the electrician that was in charge of my new house 3 weeks ago. For CCTV cables, he quoted me branded Cat6. But, his subcontractor (a group of Myanmar workers) used unbranded Cat5e. His argument was CCTV do not need Cat6, but the contract signed was Cat6! After getting a few electricians to view the light points, found out the Myanmar workers did not pull the earth wire. When my main con confronted this Chinese electrician, the answer is LED lights don't need earth.

So, better be careful and select a reliable electrician. Specify clearly that no further subcontracting is allowed.

I agreed. Do you have anyone to refer? I just fired the electrician and want to find new one.

Wao, that is very good price. Do you know what type of cables they use? Mine is mega and concealed with PVC conduits. But, I do agree they are very expensive. Worse, the Chinese electrician further subcontracted to a group of Myanmar workers without any local to supervise. That is the reason I terminated their services.

KL, a lot of electricians are quoting very high price.

Yes, you are correct. My brother is building his house at Penang. That is the practice there too.

But, in KL, especially certain locations, the price are very expensive. Actually, I am engaging a main con to manage everything. The prices I mentioned in the thread are without his mark-up.

The lesson I learn is to avoid electricians that want to get the contracts and after that outsourced completely to foreign labour.

Actually, my price was back in May 2021. The problem I face is the location. The moment they know the address, they have many reasons to raise the price.

Recently, I joined a facebook group (mainly for Mandarin users) and got a few electricians to quote me. The price per light point is only RM 65 - 75 per point and the 13A is only RM 100 per point for the current market price.

I am going to share the quality of the "Data Centre" electrician. He claimed that he has done several data centres. Contract signed is Cat6 wire. Get the foreign labour to lay Cat5e unbranded wire.

These are the quality of the "Data Centre" electrician, not mentioned the light, aircond and fan switches of my living room are put at car porch:

Pendant light point is placed next to the fan.


Cat5e was used despite the contract and pricing is Cat6. Argument is I don't need Cat6 for CCTV. But, price is the same.


Because I said I will use LED light, no Earth line for the points.


My requirement is concealed and this picture shows my bathroom. The network and 13A cables were put like this. Below the sinks. If he forgot to place the PVC conduit during casting of slab, he can hack. But, the electrician refused unless I paid VO price. Like this, can I do water proofing?


For a 60 sen joint that was broken - would you replace a new one or tore a piece of paper and cover the hole?


This post has been edited by ongss: Jul 29 2022, 08:52 PM

Check your PM. Thanks

Never see before, right? I have more than 5 parties (timber installers, plaster ceiling, electricians, and etc) came to my site and comment it was not safe. Anyone said it is not safe, to this data centre electrician, you are from North Korea.

RM90 per point for concealed. But, he wanted to charge me VO if I need to the PVC pipe to be inside the RC floor. All these contractors think that I am a water fish for their to slaughter.




This post has been edited by ongss: Aug 1 2022, 03:13 PM

For those light points, the conduits are in the RC slab. The conduits were installed when the construction workers build the mould for the RC slab. The electricians missed out the conduits for the power and network. The conduits on the floors were done by his subcontractors (mainly foreign labour that can speak Bahasa or English).

No plaster ceiling. Don't intend to do so for a few reasons.

I have invited several electricians came to inspect and re-quote. Most of them were terrified by the quality and even suggested me to bring in Suruhanjaya Tenaga or CIDB as the foreigners that did the wiring obviously did not have the P4 wireman qualification.

I have given my main con a dateline to settle this. Otherwise, I will upload the photo the FB groups to share the pains. https://www.facebook.com/groups/155815638381028/about has 121K members and another group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1465699686984899/about has 76K members.

The photo I showed were minimum, I have captured a lot others, e.g. wiring can be done the following:

No T-joint box was fitted


Bedrooms have the following PVC conduit on the floors, to be covered by the 50mm cement rendering. But, my timber installer needed to have 40mm gap between the PVC conduit and the nails. VO price will be applied if I request to hack and embed the conduit into the slab. Prices quoted were supposed to be concealed last year.


This post has been edited by ongss: Aug 4 2022, 11:53 AM

Ya, I told my main con that he should go to CIDB.

My main con was hoping to get this Data Centre electrician to rework. I told him, if I ever see unauthorized subcon comes in to work again, I will make a police report for trepassing and I also treat the contract has been terminated by himself.

More photo to share:

Amazed by the Data Centre electrician, right? His Myanmar subcontractor even placed the switches (light and fan) of the living room at the car porch.

I am fine with China method as long as my timber installer does not hit the conduit.

But, I guess the electrician thought I am a waterfish and his VO price can slaughter me.

Actually I posted to FB, many experienced contractors already commented. This Data Centre electrician subcontracted to the Myanmar workers and did not provide the necessary parts and tools.

I terminated the electrician and now new electrician is re-wiring everything. Everything seems to be good and the pricing is more reasonable.

You are right that LED also required earth line. Before selecting the current electrician, there were around 7 electricians came to view. All of them refused to continue from what left behind and wanted to start all over again. As I awarded this piece of work to the main contractor, he was struggling not to find someone that will minimise his losses. All (including the current new one) concluded that the work is below par.

If anyone of you happen to award your electrical work to one called Mr Tan from Sungai Buloh, do message me to double check.

Finger crossed.

The new electrician also subcontracted to another group of foreigners. But, at least he comes once a week to check. In terms of quality, of course, much better than previous one. Proper parts are in place for all the cables.

For those who are rebuilding the house, my advice is to engage an M&E consultant to prepare the drawing. It won't cost much but make life easier. I learn a big lesson by assuming the so-called Data Centre electrician could run the cables based on his experiences.

Actually, this is the modus operandi for most of the electricians. My current electrician is doing the same. Except, he gives instructions for the work in advance and come to site visit 2 - 3 times a week. So far, there were some errors spotted but they rectify for me.

If you unit is a condo located at Klang Valley, you probably can contact Phuah (+6018 3644086). This guy speaks Mandarin or Cantonese. He operates alone and drive a van with all parts. I could not use his service because I need someone to sign my Borang G. This guy does not have the relevant chargeman license. However, he did some work for me and managed to find the root cause. I thought my heater caused the trip. However, he managed to trace to my oven.

This post has been edited by ongss: Oct 26 2022, 09:40 PM