What is the difference between the packet subsidised cooking oil, and others such as Naturel? I've been using Naturel blended oil for a long time but now 3kg is rm42! One year ago was rm28.

The subsidised packet cooking oil so much cheaper.

What is the difference? Any issue if downgrade tk the cheapest oils?

Both cause blockages Omega 6

A good read i found

https://www.myweekendplan.asia/top-10-cooki...-malaysia-2022/

how fast do you consume that 3kg of oil?

It’s lasted from last year September, will finish next month. In between I still use olive oil for eggs, fish and pasta. And some ghee for certain veggies. Some butter for pasta too.

wth, then just pay up the extra Rm14 la! its only barely an extra RM1.50 a month!

I’m just asking what’s the difference. I’m not complaining about the price hike, per se, in this thread.

Some said those packet oils actually recycled oils they repackaged again and sell them. Usually hawkers and stall owners use them to fry kuih and snacks because they're super cheap.

Imo if you're not health conscious type of person,just get brands like Eagle,Seri Murni or Saji to fry chicken,fish or kuih at home. For sauté dishes or stir fry/goreng2 mee nasi just use regular vegetable oils. Olive oil I reserved for baking chicken and making pasta sauce.

olive oil all the way. not compromising on food and health.

This post has been edited by ipohps3: Jul 19 2022, 01:19 AM

where do you buy ghee?

I once put a bottle of fried onion oil, using Naturel Oil and some other oils. Natural Sunflower oil it seems will stay as liquid in fridge, other oils will turn into white solid if store in fridge. Why?

My 5kg oil previously bought at rm22 also not yet finish after 1 year plus. Now sell half of the bottle can get back rm22 😂

packet oil is of lowest quality oil .

stick to Naturel blended sunflower/canola . healthier oil.
reduce your intake of palm oil . as they have more saturated fat .

1kg packet subsidised cooking oil RM2.50, the gov paid some RM to the factory
same as 1kg packet subsidised tepung gandum.

1kg, 2, 5kg bottle cooking oil no subsidised, price follow market price

The quality ?
Most repacking minyak sawit packet or bottle is CP8

Big brand like alif got CP6 logo with vitamin D3 added
FGV saji dont have logo CP
cap lesong using IV60 instead of CP6

Same here. I also use l*rd.

This post has been edited by beverlykho: Jul 19 2022, 10:37 AM

just get the subsidized packet oil from reputable co like fgv

Your friendly supermarket will have.

naturel blend oil is blend of imported sunflower oils canola oils
the packet subsidized rm2.50 cooking oil is made from local refined palm oil

So what makes the belnded oil so much more expensive than palm oil?

correct me if I am wrong

CP4 (Super Palm Olein) - IV62
CP6 (Super Palm Olein) - IV60
CP8(Nominal Quality) - IV58
CP10 (Fair Average) - IV56

cp6
RBD Palm Olein CP6 is also known as Super Olein. Super Olein CP6 is a Softer type of Olein which is obtained by the Fractionation of Standard Olein. In this process, we achieve the maximum possible fluidity. RBD Palm Oil CP6 is mainly used for bottling.

cp8
RBD Palm Olein CP8 is an Extremely Stable and Cost Effective Deep-Frying Oil that lasts longer in your fryer. RBD Palm Olein CP8 is made from the Finest Quality Palm Olein. RBD Palm Oil CP8 is a Cholesterol Free and contains Healthy levels of Vitamin-E.

cp10
RBD Palm Olein CP10 is Refined with Saturate Protected formula, which helps to reduce oil absorption during Cooking and Frying. RBD Palm Oil CP10 is Tasteless and Odourless formula, which means when you eat, then you taste the food and not the oil.

AFAIK those two sunflower oils and canola oil is much more expensive than RBD Palm Olein

market right now sunflower oils around $1500/t , canola oil around $849/t , soybean oil around $1300/t while RBD Palm Olein $645.00/t

that's just a basic comparison btw, + transportation, margin etc etc

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jul 19 2022, 11:01 AM

Oils high in monounsaturated fats (like Extra Virgin Olive Oil) typically solidify below 4˚C.

On the other hand, oils high in polyunsaturated fats (like Sunflower Oil) solidify in temperatures below -30˚ C


Refrigerated cooking oil may spoil faster than unrefrigerated oil



When oil is cooled below 0°C, it begins to freeze. This process is called sublimation. Sublimation is the transition of a substance directly from the solid phase to the gas phase without passing through the intermediate liquid phase .

As the oil continues to cool, the amount of water present decreases. At some point, the remaining oil turns into a solid. The exact temperature at which this occurs depends on how much water was originally present in the oil.

If the oil contained less than 1% water, it would begin to solidify around -15°C
If more than 5%, it would start freezing at about -20°C

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jul 19 2022, 12:08 PM

Errr.... I think you got sublimation the other way around. Sublimation is the transition of a substance directly from the solid to the gas state, without passing through the liquid state.

What you described is desublimation or deposition.

This post has been edited by beverlykho: Jul 19 2022, 11:50 AM

my bad, sorry

Sublimation is the transition of a substance directly from the solid phase to the gas phase without passing through the intermediate liquid phase

so,which type of oil you use?

So it means packet and bottle oil no difference in quality(both also cp8), right ?

random test that I have made in the past, the rm2.50 packet cooking oil tends to get darker faster compared to cap Buroh ( in this case I cook some fries, nuggets )

both are 100% palm olein base

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jul 19 2022, 01:12 PM

TQ for the pic.

I think better leave those for B40 or low income people. Somehow I feel odd wanna rebut2 this kind of oil with them. But if TS wanna go for it,fine also.

Problem is, those petty traders will grab these first, faster than the rest B40s fellas

Aiyo that's bad. Honestly I haven't seen those packet oils for quite awhile already. Not even in regular grocery shops many selling bottled oils only.

There's news about packet oils been sold across Thailand few days ago yet government did nothing about it.

Packet oil are not blended so its just palm oil, don't know what quality, while the other blended oils like the name suggested its blended with other type of oils

it has been that way since many years ago



https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...ual-di-thailand

Minyak masak subsidi Malaysia sudah 15 tahun dijual di Thailand

Golok: Kegiatan menyeludup minyak masak subsidi Malaysia ke Thailand sudah lama berlaku, dipercayai sejak kerajaan memperkenalkan subsidi itu 15 tahun lalu.

Peruncit di negara ini mendakwa, mereka mendapat bekalan dan menjual minyak paket satu kilogram (kg) dari Malaysia sejak berbelas tahun lalu, malah tidak pernah berhadapan masalah kekurangan bekalan.

Mereka mendakwa boleh mendapatkan bekalan minyak masak subsidi itu daripada pemborong dari Malaysia atau orang tengah pada bila-bila masa.

Pemborong terbabit dikatakan cenderung untuk menyeludup minyak masak ke Thailand berikutan mampu mengaut keuntungan hampir 100 peratus daripada harga kilang, berbanding menjualnya kepada peruncit dalam negara.

15 years? Wtf.
They got those oils from middle men here is it so easy to cross Thai borders bringing them without getting caught? Ok I'm shocked.

smugglers making good money there

this, and petrol/diesel smuggling

https://www.utusan.com.my/nasional/2022/06/...rm3000-sebulan/

Seleweng punca petrol habis, penjual raih RM3,000 sebulan

Difahamkan, individu terli­bat mampu menjana pendapatan antara RM1,500 hingga RM3,000 sebulan bergantung kepada kekerapan membawa bahan api itu ke pangkalan ha­ram untuk dijual ke negara jiran





This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jul 19 2022, 01:47 PM

Since B40 cannot buy the subsidized oil anyway the subsidies should be abolished. Better give cash to the poor and let them buy at market rate. Same goes for all subsidies.

They need to make it harder for the smuggler to smuggle. 40-60km to the border , all the subsidised items should be abolished. The local there to be compensated via cash aid to recoup the losses from the unsubsidised items (cooking oils, petrol, etc). It is easier to coordinate the smaller population at the district levels.

they are smart one lah. definitely they will bring in the supplies from out of state.

It's cool. Every day is a learning day.

Yes, they can but it will be harder. The travelling distance of 40-60km from border will expose the smugglers more time on the road to be intercepted by the enforcers. If now at border, they can straight away cross in less than 10-15min. Before enforcers could do anything , they already escaped. 40-60km distance will at least make the smugglers to stay on the road at least 45-60min longer before reaching the border.

Saturated fats the most stable including palm oil. the best. All seed/vegetable oils are bad.

This the answer. Packet oil just palm oil