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 Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?

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thickface
post Jul 17 2022, 07:16 PM

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Last time used to think property will drop price like every other market which always have up and down trend.

Covid trend - the prices did drop a little but did not collapse. Now I'm in the property investment game and I can say it's dictated by the rich. You don't buy, you lose out or just be happy with whatever condition that you are in - condo/normal house unit. Lots of people will continue buying for their next generation and I kid you not, they goreng property like we buying clothes.

Honestly, the only way to earn from property crash is via others misfortune which is auction unit. Nonetheless, do your research first because majority people just buy via uncle aunty and parents advice. Hold your money until a good investment place come along or just buy via feelings and earn even more to dictate your lifestyle.
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post Aug 17 2022, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Aug 17 2022, 11:56 AM)
In all seriousness, unless you are blind you should notice since 2016 until now property prices have already been falling. Most areas already drop by around 20-30% from the peak price in 2015. So I really dunno what further fall or how much fall you guys are expecting before you guys willing to buy.

Mark my words, this downtrend will not be forever. Max until end 2023 only then prices will start going up again. If you miss this cycle downtrend be prepared to wait another 5-10 years for the next downtrend and even then prices will be more than the current downtrend price.
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Yeap everyone just flabbergasted mention price keeps going up.

Honestly the price dropped when covid first hits Malaysia. It is evidently 20% and yet people keep waiting for longer time to purchase. That time was the most uncertain and prices were good. Now it's increasing alot especially when borders open. Better buy now if it's within your price range. I don't see any reason property prices will drop since covid was the worst hit to Malaysia economy so far. Every overseas investor just pull off from Msia at that time.
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post Aug 17 2022, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Aug 17 2022, 01:06 PM)
Now also haven’t increased la, it’s still in downtrend. Still a lot of good deals around.
You see the comments in this thread la bro. So many don’t even acknowledge there has been a price drop. Dunno what they expect Rm1 mil house to drop until below 300k before they consider it a price drop?
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Well wouldn't disagree with you on certain props. But you can see certain props demanding higher prices compared to covid-19 times as they are not needing that extra money anymore. They can afford to keep now.
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post Aug 17 2022, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Aug 17 2022, 02:34 PM)
Fair enough haha.
Those are the cash rich holders, they can put whatever price they a want but I doubt people will buy. Except for really super prime areas like city center, most other areas until now is still 20% below the price back in 2015/2016.

But as usual la, unrealistic people expect 80% drop not 20% drop 😂
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Like you said depends on area. I did see transaction going on and on especially on prime areas. Within a month, the banner being removed.

It's still below 2015/2016 price le... Which at that time, everyone just jack up the price and see which water fish will buy. Competition was lesser too that time especially on landed houses.
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post Aug 26 2022, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 26 2022, 09:30 AM)
Any good renovator cum interior decorator aro ? Reasonable price?
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Either you do things yourself or you hire a better ID/contractor.

Pay peanuts, you get monkeys. My advice is really try to accommodate better services and workmanship. Not kidding. If not, huge headache later.
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post Aug 26 2022, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Aug 26 2022, 11:49 AM)
Too bad in this country most people won’t pay for quality.

Everything want cheap cheap.
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Exactly. And then later double pay because need to ask someone else to solve the problem caused by first contractor. At the end, budget burst even more lol.

QUOTE(sixguyz_jayhan @ Aug 26 2022, 11:59 AM)
My humble opinion, for now, no. Trading of property has two peak, when economic goes extreme well or bad.
I investigate a few months, right now this period most of the owner started to sell their property due to cash demand. Probably bcos of the economic just start going bad.

1. Due to that, price will slightly float up, but not because of the value and demand of property only, but the demand of cash, which contribute to the MAJOR issue.

2. Another issue is, there is once a trend that most "shifu" and "agent team" teaching the consumer to sapu these properties to become rich. In a short run, price will hike. However, this create the problem of supply (house wanted to sell) more than demand (real buyer wanted to buy for living) in the future.

So, if you are waiting for price falling, wait until the situation that owners need a quick cash to overcome certain bad economic environment or, the confidence of acquire an assest lower.

But right now...I can't see the consumer are worrying bout it as world govs are trying to maintain the doubtful GOOD ECONOMIC SCENARIO....but starting with the Fed Rate and Overnight Policy Rate, which contribute to critical impact to recent property buyers. Another great impact is, property industry from worldwide starting to burst, especially China...so if have cash, only can wait until the things happened...
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I do see your point over there. However, Malaysia does have one of the cheaper housing prices in comparison. Honestly, I don't see a market crash for now as it crashes already. Only exception is that one specific unit if the owner needs quick cash for something.

You can refer alot to how the auction market is going. No kidding. It's getting higher nowadays. Richer people will grab opportunity to make more money if there are more crashes, leaving poorer people behind.
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post May 5 2023, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ May 4 2023, 11:02 PM)
Ploperty flippers will face reckoning soon. 15 years of non stop printing allowed them to party for so long. Now there's no more moratorium or EPF withdrawals to help them stay afloat.

For those who say material labor cost up, how can ploperty price go down? Just look at US. When nobody buys, the market doesn't give a fuck if your cost has increased. You sell cheap or gulung tikar.
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You do know that if the property price drops like what you mentioned, we are all in deep crap because it defines the country stabilization. It means your money has no value or basically useless, only able to use it in this country.

Prior to that happening, like what some people mentioned, other methods to ensure money flow keeps coming in.

This can go on and on. I believe market is good for those who survey hard and smart. Don't buy overpriced things. At the end of the day, property is either an investment or a place you stay in (emotional attachment). If investment, sure got profit or loss. If emotional attachment, just buy ni.

 

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