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Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?
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bonedragon
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Aug 17 2022, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(ericthai @ Aug 17 2022, 08:50 AM) Correct! Cement, construction worker cost, steel, iron are going up to build new properties. So property prices will not crash, the most is go stable. Interesting logic
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bonedragon
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Aug 17 2022, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(undentifiedKC @ Aug 17 2022, 10:16 AM) It's fact lol, my wife working as QS, and she mention that even base level bangla labour cost oso RM90/day/person, and cement increase to around RM20/pack needless to say sand, brick and steel/iron, so no doubt new unit price is maintain or going up the onli price i can see going down is those slightly further like balakong, puchong meranti etc etc, prime area still sell like hot cake The cost may be going up, if no transactions, property developers/sellers who need cash will still offload it. First by reducing margin, if not, then by taking a small loss. The cost is almost irrelevant. It's like saying cost of mining bitcoin is very high end of last year so the price will definitely not drop. Well, we all know what happened there.
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bonedragon
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Aug 17 2022, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Aug 17 2022, 10:58 AM) I think cannot compare with Bitcoin… Butcon, stock, rolek, etc these are not daily essential items and are for investment or more precisely say people buy them just for goreng, people won’t die without it of course one day these item price will collapse, and then recover and repeat Wondering if the car, house, food, clothes will these things price ever drop sharply in the world that population keep grow explosively and in a country that considered stable( low risk of war, natural disaster) . one can survive without buying car but still have to pay transportation fee, one don’t have house still need have to pay rent. Of course buy many properties for goreng purpose that one cannot afford will surely have higher risk as it has no difference to buying stock and Bitcoin. According to national statistics department, there are almost 2 million unoccupied homes in Malaysia. How essential and necessary are these homes? Not to mention property overhang which is at all-time high. Again, who needs these houses? Over 10-20 years yea probably these will be resolved. Small consolation for sellers who need money in next 6 months. https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2022/07/29...noccupied-homes
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bonedragon
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Aug 17 2022, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Aug 17 2022, 11:20 AM) This 2 million unit unoccupied homes you can get it at 50% discount price? Property developer strategy is to build more and keep price up, will they give big discount just to clear these unsold overhang unit? It will be more like earn small lose big in long term for them. Like one for forummer said in earlier post, weak developer might die but not strong developer. Current property price still affordable for most Malaysian.Whether drops by 10% or 50% no one can predict. I think what we can say is that macros don't look good for continued appreciation in near term. In fact it's been stagnant for quite a few years. Developers are just one source of homes. Most of the unoccupied homes owned by people who want to goreng and have artificial holding power coz of the super low interest rate for the past 10-15 years. Will be interesting to see how the market behaves as BNM OPR continues increasing. Also not sure why you will say property price is affordable for most Malaysian. Easy to lose sight of what 'most' Malaysian means in our society where it's very stratified not just by race but also income levels. Median household income is just RM5k per month.
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bonedragon
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Aug 19 2022, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(ericthai @ Aug 19 2022, 10:01 PM) Bitcoin is gambling on non tangible things which is digital. It's not real so you can't compare. It's just like gambling at Genting Highlands, you know you will lose a lot of money so if you want to take high risk, then only gamble. Are you willing to sell your things at a loss? Taking into account the inflation rate? Last time can get a bowl of noodle for rm 4, now it's double at rm 8. So selling at original price that we bought 10 years ago taking into inflation of 100% is taking a loss. Talk is easy but doing is difficult. Try selling your things at a loss and tell me later. People sell at a loss all the time to free up cash for more urgent things like paying for the mortgage of your main home, medical emergencies, or daily bills after losing your iob in a recession. What are you talking about?
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bonedragon
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Aug 20 2022, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Aug 19 2022, 11:53 PM) The title is property market. Not some personal seller. So the sample target must be large. According to the data of Valuation and Property Services Department (JPPH, 2015, housing price has increased about 45% in the past 10 years. KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysian House Price Index recorded a -2% on-quarter reduction in the first quarter of the year (Q1 2022), according to the latest market snapshot by the National Property Information Centre (Napic). The negative growth rate in prices represented a -0.1% on-year change compared with the first quarter of 2021. Median house prices, however, reached RM433,430 this quarter, a 96.9% growth since the base year price of RM220,154 in Q1 2010.Only high-rise properties showed positive change in average prices, growing 0.1% on-quarter to RM342,176. The average price of terrace houses dipped by 2.2% to RM410,527, while semi-detached homes dropped 2.6% to RM660,636.
Detached home prices recorded the biggest dip of the property types listed. Median prices fell by 4.1% to RM617,678.So only dipped a little bit due to covid, and still expensive. The guy was saying people never sell things at a loss. Clearly he's never been on carousel or lowyat garage sales. Dip is still a dip. Depends when u bought. In any case 45% over 10 years is a very mediocre investment. Buy to stay diff matter. As investment? Wasting money and effort including maintenance, tenants, quit rent, loan interest etc.
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