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 Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?

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post Jul 14 2022, 06:41 PM

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Why fall? Will be even more expensive! blink.gif Cost of building naik / shortage of workers etc…
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post Jul 14 2022, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(iammasivers @ Jul 14 2022, 06:58 PM)
if you buy for long term there is no need to worry.. it's those greedy house flippers that gonna suffer
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Flippers thing of the past. All dieded…

Now waiting 4 those taking long term loan 2 default n lelong… then v can kutip cheap dead ciken… brows.gif

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post Jul 14 2022, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(galkelly @ Jul 14 2022, 05:22 PM)
Can afford better buy now...
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Buy 4 own stay ok... Bestest buy Readymade units.

Labour shortage/ hike in costs etc = sked project stalled. Last time bad time many developer fly by nite… 🤐
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post Jul 15 2022, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jul 14 2022, 09:44 PM)
Buy at good location won't drop - landed or condo

The only thing went up during COVID is number of lelong properties. Now becoming less
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I agree. Waited. Still x drop!

End of day its location location location!
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post Jul 15 2022, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(X1X1 @ Jul 14 2022, 08:25 PM)
what going to happen ?
if our property drop 30%, guess what happen to the country malaysia ? this is what u want to see, property is our last GDP sources.
New project might reduce, sub sales transaction might be drop, prices ?
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Bring it on! Drop 30% fr cost price! Please! rclxm9.gif

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post Jul 15 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(X1X1 @ Jul 15 2022, 01:43 AM)
u wont be laughing.
base currency exchange, we already drop 7%, + stagnant appreciation. is around 10%
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Foreigners / those earning foreign currencies untung la! biggrin.gif Good 4 them!
But 4 locals, nothing much change.. since still using rm…
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post Jul 15 2022, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(wow1wow2 @ Jul 15 2022, 08:11 AM)
Property is the worst investment now, not sure why agent still want to promote about capital appreciation nowadays. Own stay yes but for investment fk no
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U take them seriously? laugh.gif
Of so many types of agents, property agent is least trained n least pro. Any unemployed /housewives can bcum agent overnight. 1 day course nia… or hide behind a senior with ren#. Then bank on luck by making random cold colds. laugh.gif
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post Jul 15 2022, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(wow1wow2 @ Jul 15 2022, 11:02 AM)
I'm actually ok if they promote it as a form of rental income but gone were the days for capital appreciation and personally I think property price won't drop alot but it will get adjusted or stagnant for quite some time. I think investor still can enter secondary market or auction for investment since this is still the safest way to go against myr depreciation (cash inside bank become peanut yo).
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Buy fr secondary market safest. In case half way thru developer x deliver ( like current China cases). Pay abit more 4 something ady exist better than bank on getting it 3-5 yrs down d road! doh.gif V nvr know! unsure.gif

Yeah, with hyperinflation, money in bank is worthless. Property bot will eventually terus appreciate after depression.
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post Jul 15 2022, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Pakatan SinMa Plus @ Jul 15 2022, 11:00 AM)
It is time for the gov to regulate the real estate industry. Low entry barrier into this industry will cause many problems for consumers.
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Sad la Msia. sad.gif
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post Aug 26 2022, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Pakatan SinMa Plus @ Aug 24 2022, 05:09 PM)
New house also need reno, unless you buy those projects including renovation, but in the end the reno cost included in the purchase price.
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Any good renovator cum interior decorator aro ? Reasonable price?
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post Aug 26 2022, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Aug 26 2022, 02:52 PM)
Because in this country, especially developers like to goreng price kao kao and claim will give you good quality. End up still use China cheap materials and just charge you like hell coz you waterfish.

You think here you tell developer to build good quality and you will pay for it they really will use premium materials to build for you ah? They just slaughter you like a pig got la.
Soli boss
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Yeah, in this country u must further renovate even when buy ready 2 movein premises. Overseas, can straight move in stay ady.
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post Sep 9 2022, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(jrshow @ Sep 9 2022, 02:36 PM)
come back to the topic, u guys think tat malaysia property will fall after opr increased?
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loan more expensive… but ppl still need a roof over their head… anyways I checked, price still x fall…
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post Sep 9 2022, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(premier239 @ Sep 9 2022, 02:46 PM)
without a good gdp growth/ solid economic fundamental going forward, how much could property price appreciate?

better bet it on other asset class
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Correct. Rather buy property than say invest in share market… even if a property x appreciate much, but x lose value UNLESS u invest in flood prone area ( quick sand areas… 🤐 )
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post Sep 9 2022, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Sep 9 2022, 06:18 PM)
Can share how you “checked” the prices?
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I check with agents lol …
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post Oct 28 2022, 05:22 PM

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Dun compare with Hk market … fall bcos of mass migration. Soon part of caina etc.. every1 selling, now still super expensive… well even LKS is selling … laugh.gif

Look at more progressive n stable economy like our neighbour Spore. Still up up up! https://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-ma...ch-day-and-more

Msia, well … actuali x a bad place 2 live / retire … still worth buying. Esp if it’s ur 1st home…
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post Oct 28 2022, 05:30 PM

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Some stats. MCO demand all time high. Currently: Demand > supply n price keep climbing …
https://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-gu...datasense-66086
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post Oct 29 2022, 02:46 PM

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Property prices likely to increase before year-end

By DAVID TAN
PROPERTY
Monday, 20 Jun 2022

Residential property prices are expected to increase by up to 20%.

GEORGE TOWN: The selling prices of residential properties in the country will likely increase by 5% to 20% soon.

Real Estate and Housing Developers’ Association immediate past chairman Tan Hun Beng told StarBiz that a price hike was in the offing and likely to happen before the end of the year, as construction costs had increased substantially.


The price of concrete has jumped 32% to RM258 per cubic metre, while steel bar prices have increased 46% to RM4,100 per tonne.

In addition, the prices of metal roofing and c-purlin have increased by 60% and 95%, respectively.

Tan said developers have yet to pass the higher cost of building materials to customers.

“The steep hike in building material costs will impact the selling price of the incoming supply of properties by at least 5% to 20%, depending on their size and location.

“The hike in selling prices is inevitable as developers are already paying substantially more for their raw materials,” he said.

According to Tan, there will also be fewer property launches in 2022 due to high construction costs.

According to the latest National Property Information Centre (Napic) report, some 54,836 houses will enter the Penang property market over the next three to four years.

The Napic report shows that about 79% of the new houses are affordable and high-end, priced from RM300,000 onwards.

Tan said this was a primary concern as Napic has indicated that the unsold houses in Penang from the completed, under construction and not yet constructed categories totalled 11,540 units.

In late November, the state government declared that Penang has the second-highest number of unsold properties in Malaysia, with 4,683 completed housing units worth RM3.66bil.

Tan said assuming that developers had sold some 30% of the 54,836 houses, there would still be a leftover of 38,385 units.

“In 2020 and 2021, the residential property transactions in Penang were 11,736 and 13,648, respectively.

“Assuming that the annual consumption stays between 11,000 and 13,000 units per annum, it will take between three and 3.5 years to absorb the excess supply, which doesn’t even include the 11,540 unsold units,” Tan said.

He added that if the economy remained challenging with high-interest rates, the time required to clear the oversupply would be much longer.

“This is, of course, assuming that no new projects will be approved.

“If there are more houses on the way, the inventory will grow, making it more difficult to clear the glut,” Tan said.

Tan added, however, that the incoming supply would mitigate the impact of fewer property launches over the next couple of years, ensuring that the market would have sufficient stock and variety for consumption.

On the unsold units in Penang standing at 11,540 at the end of December 2021, CA Lim Property Surveyors Sdn Bhd principal Datuk Lim Chien Aun said the state government should view the matter seriously and come up with a strategy to tackle the issue quickly.

“A large number of unsold units is perhaps an indication that we are building houses that are not in demand due to various factors.

“Before outlining the proposed strategies, they should consult with the professional bodies available in Penang, as well as with relevant housing and construction players currently practicing and working in the state.”

Lim said the local government should also be included as a source to obtain information and support suggestions to formulate a practical set of strategies to become the recognised policies of the state government.

“The state government should legislate a policy to buffer the impact of rising building material costs.

“They have left the pricing mechanism of certain raw materials to open market forces.

“Possibly they do not accept that the housing construction sector is important, especially the affordable housing programme and policies.”

According to property consultant Steven Cheah who helms Property Talk Sdn Bhd, the investments from multinational corporations and local companies into Batu Kawan will create new jobs, driving up the demand for housing.

“We may even see the annual consumption of residential properties in the state increase from 11,000 and 13,000 per annum because of the jobs entering the market.

“The advent of these new houses is timely,” he said.

Currently, a condominium with over 1,000 sq ft in the North East and South West district is priced from about RM680,000 to RM800,000 and RM480,000 to RM600,000, respectively.

We can expect the selling price to increase due to escalating raw material cost and steady demand,” Cheah said.

The incoming supply will also provide the market with a wide range of choices, he added.

“What we worry about is a scenario with limited residential property supply. “A limited supply situation coupled with high construction cost will not be healthy, as selling prices will spiral out of control,” Cheah said.
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post Oct 29 2022, 03:08 PM

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when it comes to property, location matters. 2000 property ady doubled! No bluf. Even if left it empty untenanted, will still profit if jual… so biar… if lepas now can’t buy back at ori price or better made (raw material wise) …many rich investors r like tat… example my left right neighbours. Been eyeing these. But not selling….now n then pop pass jeguk only. Maybe keep 4 kids. When kids grow up, they may x afford buying properties as cheaply as their parents. Prices will b super expensive then… So, if got kids, can buy…
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post Oct 29 2022, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 29 2022, 03:17 PM)
Sold two units during that period.
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If u ady got property 4 own use Nonit buy more la… x cheap now. Unless got excess money la… invest in property better than invest in shares / crypto. Confirm tara rugi 1. bruce.gif
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post Oct 29 2022, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 29 2022, 03:21 PM)
If gen y and z don't consider to buy >10 years old poorperly, you expect your children to live in >20 years old poorperly?
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All property sure need maintenance … but older structure better la… more solid… bigger even…

Anyways, future trend ~> children will look forward 2 inherit properties, x afford 2 buy anymore… huhuhu…

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