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 Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?

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post Jul 17 2022, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jul 16 2022, 10:37 PM)

Is it a good time to buy? It’s a buyers market now but it’s a good time to buy a nicer place for own dwelling. A decent time to buy something for each of your kids if you’re not planning on sending them overseas. It’s also a fantastic time to invest in property for certain business needs.

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I am interested with what you mean properties for certain businesses. What kind of business you are referring to?
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post Jul 17 2022, 08:41 PM

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Fallen briefly in 2020. manage to add one to my portfolio. One of my best purchase.
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post Jul 17 2022, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pakatan SinMa Plus @ Jul 15 2022, 09:47 AM)
The prices of landed property, especially those in good location is less likely to fall too much.

The cost of buying will be higher due to increasing interest and inflation, and this might affect the rental yield for the owner.

If i have cash, i might not buy a landed property to invest now.
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Y dont invest bro
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post Jul 18 2022, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Timber @ Jul 17 2022, 08:06 PM)
I am interested with what you mean properties for certain businesses. What kind of business you are referring to?
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If you’re a developer now is a good time to increase your land bank.

If you’re a successful farmer now is a good time to buy more land.

If you’re a successful restauranteur and don’t own your own premise or want to expand your premise then now is a good time to buy a new shop.

If you’re a manufacturer or industrialist then now is a fantastic time to buy a factory.

If you operate nursing or confinement homes like me and fairly successful at it then there’s no better time then now to source for new properties to expand.

Along that lines.
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post Jul 18 2022, 01:12 AM

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This is the time we steadily build our portfolio so our future gen can enjoy fruits of our labour.

So they don't need to say how I wish my grandfather bought one lolz...

As per usual, one gen suffer, another enlarge it and the next enjoys it....
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post Jul 18 2022, 10:15 AM

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bruh, for subsales market, it's already falling, and if u plan to go for new development project, it's impossible it will be going down any time soon as labour and material cost is bursting
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post Jul 18 2022, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jul 16 2022, 10:37 PM)
I used to be an avid property investor and speculator.

Klang valley and most urban area properties are no longer good investments unless you bought them pre-2010.

Cash flow? Nope. There isn’t any positive cash flow properties you can invest in any longer. Most are too expensive and rental rarely ever covers cost of ownership and maintenance.

Capital appreciation? Nope, most Klang valley properties are in stagnation and if you have a brickz account you’ll know that the secondary market isn’t moving all that much. Inflation however is eating into the value of your wealth.

Is it still a viable investment? Oh it depends, I own several old aged care homes and recently opened a confinement centre, if I didn’t buy the property then these businesses are at the mercy of a landlord. It’s a decent instrument if you’re fairly young and using it as a means for retirement or saving for your kids higher education, yes there are many better instruments but don’t bullshit yourself that you understand these instruments all that well as you’re probably not Warren Buffett.

Is it a good time to buy? It’s a buyers market now but it’s a good time to buy a nicer place for own dwelling. A decent time to buy something for each of your kids if you’re not planning on sending them overseas. It’s also a fantastic time to invest in property for certain business needs.

But the absolute best type of property you could invest in are freehold agriculture land that doesn’t have any type of ownership restrictions. If you find a piece of it especially if it has water and electric infra in place you better quickly snap it as soon as possible.
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QUOTE(jrshow @ Jul 17 2022, 09:12 PM)
Y dont invest bro
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Assuming you are talking about landed residential property, if we rent the property out, I think the rental yield is no longer attractive considering the higher property prices; if we are looking for appreciation, i believe it will take years to get good returns.

I agree with the reply above, it is a good time to buy for own/family use, but not so attractive for investment.
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post Jul 18 2022, 03:00 PM

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adrian wee said 400k proprty will become 800k in next 10 years. what chu waiting for??
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post Jul 19 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(jrshow @ Jul 14 2022, 02:59 PM)
Will you think the property market will fall soon?
Especially landed property ,hot cake area like subang jaya?
after the increasing on interest, inflation, covid..nvr endless issue in future..
if you have cash, will you go and buy the landed property to invest now?
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have you seen any new house property development in Klang valley ? how many ? maybe far far away like Elmina.

Supply vs demand bro.

if condo, maybe price will fall

but not house, price there will always be sky high.
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post Jul 19 2022, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jul 19 2022, 09:36 AM)
have you seen any new house property development in Klang valley ? how many ? maybe far far away like Elmina.

Supply vs demand bro.

if condo, maybe price will fall

but not house, price there will always be sky high.
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bro, have u look into subsales market? there's plenty of landed property selling way below so called "market price"

and it's even cheaper than the new project now as labour and material cost is increasing
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post Jul 19 2022, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(undentifiedKC @ Jul 19 2022, 10:17 AM)
bro, have u look into subsales market? there's plenty of landed property selling way below so called "market price"

and it's even cheaper than the new project now as labour and material cost is increasing
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how much more cheaper ?

loan so hard to approve

no surprise

but they are still damn expensive

for poorfag like me

subsales also must think about renovation

maybe scared off would be buyers



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post Jul 19 2022, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jul 19 2022, 10:23 AM)
how much more cheaper ?

loan so hard to approve

no surprise

but they are still damn expensive

for poorfag like me

subsales also must think about renovation

maybe scared off would be buyers
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You talking about subsale not auction. Subsale you can go and check everything in the house first and find one that doesn’t need renovation. Please lah stop with the renovation fear mongering as if every subsale prop die die must renovate.

Loan hard to approve? As long as you have downpayment the loan approval for new launch or subsale is the same. If you qualify, you qualify.
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QUOTE(undentifiedKC @ Jul 19 2022, 10:17 AM)
bro, have u look into subsales market? there's plenty of landed property selling way below so called "market price"

and it's even cheaper than the new project now as labour and material cost is increasing
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Bro don’t bother la, there’s a lot of people who are in denial and trying to cover up the fact that property prices have been on a downtrend since 2017-2018 until now. If you compare against prices in 2015-2016, most areas landed subsales market price have easily fallen by around 20% only the super prime areas are not affected.

Those other so called “prime” areas like SS2, Damansara, Subang, PJ all already drop la. Example ss2, back in 2015 you can never find any landed props for less than 1m and mostly we’re selling around 1.2m. Nowadays you can easily find owners selling for 900k+ and sometimes even 800k++. Subang selling around 900k++ in 2015 now a lot are selling for 700k++ That’s a 10-20% drop right there. Of course you also need to be realistic la, don’t expect a drop above 30% for landed.

New projects prices won’t go down as developers have enough cash to build and hold and there’s always waterfishes around.
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post Jul 19 2022, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jul 19 2022, 10:50 AM)
Bro don’t bother la, there’s a lot of people who are in denial and trying to cover up the fact that property prices have been on a downtrend since 2017-2018 until now. If you compare against prices in 2015-2016, most areas landed subsales market price have easily fallen by around 20% only the super prime areas are not affected.

Those other so called “prime” areas like SS2, Damansara, Subang, PJ all already drop la. Example ss2, back in 2015 you can never find any landed props for less than 1m and mostly we’re selling around 1.2m. Nowadays you can easily find owners selling for 900k+ and sometimes even 800k++. Subang selling around 900k++ in 2015 now a lot are selling for 700k++ That’s a 10-20% drop right there. Of course you also need to be realistic la, don’t expect a drop above 30% for landed.

New projects prices won’t go down as developers have enough cash to build and hold and there’s always waterfishes around.
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yeah correct, imo property memang is going down now and it's undeniable

for ppl that can't afford, u can't afford doesnt mean it's not going down, just that the amount is not up to ur expectation so u feel like "it's not going down"

if u try to look for more outskirt place like balakong, seri kembangan, kajang, for normal landed property that landsize 16xx sqft, the price is around 500k, or below
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post Jul 19 2022, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jul 19 2022, 10:23 AM)
how much more cheaper ?

loan so hard to approve

no surprise

but they are still damn expensive

for poorfag like me

subsales also must think about renovation

maybe scared off would be buyers
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if u loan for amount of 500k oso hard to approve, son i have a bad news for u, even banks think that u shouldn't own property

to get a subsales unit that's not prime area like KL/PJ/Subang, include 10% down payment + basic renovation u need 100k cash, if u dun even have 100k, i dun think u r suitable to own a property
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post Jul 19 2022, 12:11 PM

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Drop? Nah. Those with holding power will keep. Those without holding power, will sell.
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post Jul 19 2022, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jul 19 2022, 10:39 AM)
You talking about subsale not auction. Subsale you can go and check everything in the house first and find one that doesn’t need renovation. Please lah stop with the renovation fear mongering as if every subsale prop die die must renovate.

Loan hard to approve? As long as you have downpayment the loan approval for new launch or subsale is the same. If you qualify, you qualify.
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of course u have to renovate lah, not all to ur liking.

the cheaper the subsale means u have to do more renovation

come on, have you ever lived in a home > 12 years old. You think every owner that sells them in pristine condition ah ?

if u get one in pristine condition either prices r higher or u have to fight tooth and nail to grab iti first from others.

nowadays easy to get loan meh ? economy not so good, co profits down, interest rates potential to go down, who want to take the risk to buy house unless got lots of money.


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QUOTE(undentifiedKC @ Jul 19 2022, 12:10 PM)
if u loan for amount of 500k oso hard to approve, son i have a bad news for u, even banks think that u shouldn't own property

to get a subsales unit that's not prime area like KL/PJ/Subang, include 10% down payment + basic renovation u need 100k cash, if u dun even have 100k, i dun think u r suitable to own a property
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i dun have 100k now. Last time had lah, used it up for some other thing.

own some properties, but I am not house owner more to condos.
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Usually mau fall start from other state dulu. Then slowly slowly affect kl n srlangor area.

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