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post Jul 13 2022, 04:24 PM

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Yup, i feel they going to make a new niche market call halal forex or something
dagnarus
post Jul 13 2022, 04:25 PM

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If margin trading haram la kan since interest is involved.
SUSecntrader
post Jul 13 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jul 13 2022, 04:22 PM)
Lagi ts haram
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you so late why ah.

see ? my thread so many reply u know. this night sure someone idiot will post my thread and post at the my malay sifu saham group lol. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 13 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Strike Eureka @ Jul 13 2022, 12:16 PM)
Banyak je melayu promote OctaFX, tuu halal tak?
Sumpah tanya je.....

cc: ry8128 god grid
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kuat promo until menyampah.
got 1 indian = sembang kencang copy2 and duit masuk.
got 1 malay guy teach 1 malay girl.


dagnarus
post Jul 13 2022, 04:27 PM

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https://www.hbku.edu.qa/sites/default/files...hortselling.pdf

nah. if really interested to know halal haram, go give it a read

for the lazy, TLDR

The study concludes that the conventional margin trading facility is not Shariah-compliant due to the element of riba

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post Jul 13 2022, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Newsray @ Jul 13 2022, 04:25 PM)
kuat promo until menyampah.
got 1 indian = sembang kencang copy2 and duit masuk.
got 1 malay guy teach 1 malay girl.
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The rea fxl trader all trade at the prop firm le. no need this kind useless broker lel.

People still trade using this broker because they dont have enough ball to trade at the prop firm due to strict rules .

all losing money . full margin type. lol.
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post Jul 13 2022, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Jul 13 2022, 04:27 PM)
https://www.hbku.edu.qa/sites/default/files...hortselling.pdf

nah. if really interested to know halal haram, go give it a read

for the lazy, TLDR

The study concludes that the conventional margin trading facility is not Shariah-compliant due to the element of riba
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Nah i dont care. they want talk haram then go haram..


my intention only wanna play video game at the online broker..not making money. that my hobby. since when playing video game also haram? hehe
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post Jul 13 2022, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ecntrader @ Jul 13 2022, 04:29 PM)
Nah i dont care. they want talk haram then go haram..
my intention only wanna play video game at the online broker..not making money. that my hobby. since when playing video game also haram?  hehe
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want play just play. if no margin 1:1 trading. its halal. go ham with it
Strike Eureka
post Jul 13 2022, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Newsray @ Jul 13 2022, 04:25 PM)
kuat promo until menyampah.
got 1 indian = sembang kencang copy2 and duit masuk.
got 1 malay guy teach 1 malay girl.
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beli starbuck kena tunggu, keluar ngam member kena tunggu, octafx kalau kena tunggu ada bonus laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2022, 04:40 PM

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kek sial
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post Jul 13 2022, 04:44 PM

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So after debate will keluar fatwa or anything?
Syeikh Ruler al-Hotzz
post Jul 13 2022, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Jul 13 2022, 04:25 PM)
If margin trading haram la kan since interest is involved.
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Interest x haram unless kalo dlm loan.
Riba dlm trading cuma berlaku dlm jual beli emas or perak if ada delay dlm transaksi tu (refer sahih bukhari no.2174). Dlm kes currency ni bole dikiaskan dgn exchange dinar n dirham dari dlm hadis tu.
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post Jul 13 2022, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Syeikh Ruler al-Hotzz @ Jul 13 2022, 05:21 PM)
Interest x haram unless kalo dlm loan.
Riba dlm trading cuma berlaku dlm jual beli emas or perak  if ada delay dlm transaksi tu (refer sahih bukhari no.2174). Dlm kes currency ni bole dikiaskan dgn exchange dinar n dirham dari dlm hadis tu.
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Margin tu loan
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post Jul 13 2022, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jul 13 2022, 04:23 PM)
Forex trading = Used money to bet/speculate not investing or hedging

Bet = Haram

denying it = come I bought a new yoyo ( SPINNNnnnnnnnnn up&down)
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Just change to lucky draw. Instant halal.
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post Jul 13 2022, 05:43 PM

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i srsly lol.

religious scholars debating about modern day finance.

It's like kindergarden kids debating about quantum theory.

All know nothing about the topic they are talking about. And even if they know a little, they are unqualified.
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post Jul 13 2022, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Jul 13 2022, 05:33 PM)
Margin tu loan
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Define loan, pls..
dagnarus
post Jul 13 2022, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Syeikh Ruler al-Hotzz @ Jul 13 2022, 07:20 PM)
Define loan, pls..
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Hahahha. Adoi. Technical terms Google jelah.

Seriously dude.

You know why there's such a thing as margin call right? It's to protect the principal. It's ok for you to be wiped out, but the broker will protect their wealth at all cost hence closing your position forcefully.
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post Jul 13 2022, 08:05 PM

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Stupid idiots
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post Jul 13 2022, 08:06 PM

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When earn = rezeki
When losing money = haram
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post Jul 13 2022, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Jul 13 2022, 08:04 PM)
Hahahha. Adoi. Technical terms Google jelah.

Seriously dude.

You know why there's such a thing as margin call right? It's to protect the principal. It's ok for you to be wiped out, but the broker will protect their wealth at all cost hence closing your position forcefully.
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Kalo x main dgn broker...ok je. Xda libat loan so xda riba.

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