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https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/6/28...act-heavy-price

In Indonesia, ‘pay later’ services leave some drowning in debt
Buy now, pay later services take off in Southeast Asian country where most people don’t have a bank account.

Ubud, Indonesia – Nadhea Putri’s mounting debt began with a single mobile phone purchase.

Putri, who lives in Kuala Kapuas, Central Kalimantan, about 1,600km from Jakarta, had dreamed of upgrading to a newer model for months but did not have enough cash.

Then, earlier this year, the 21-year-old university student noticed an option to buy now, pay later (BNPL) offered on the checkout page of her favourite online shopping app. It took her less than 24 hours to activate the payment method, and the phone – which cost nearly five times her monthly earnings – was finally hers in February.

More than four months later, Putri is still struggling to pay back the balance, along with mounting interest.

“I’m too scared to even use my new phone now,” Putri told Al Jazeera, asking to use a pseudonym to protect her anonymity. “Every day, debt collectors call me more than 20 times. I feel terrorised, but I can’t tell my parents. I don’t want to burden them.”

BNPL, which lets customers pay for goods in instalments at varying rates of interest, has helped to plug a significant lending gap in Indonesia. Credit card penetration in the country is notoriously low, sitting at a meagre 6 percent in 2021, with nearly 65 percent of Indonesia’s 275 million population remaining unbanked.

As the country’s population has moved increasingly online in recent years, digital payment methods like BNPL have experienced a surge in usage. Indonesia’s mobile internet penetration, at 68 percent in 2021, is now among the highest in the region and is projected to hit 79 percent by 2025.

Smartphone users like Putri have been drawn to BNPL as a quick and easy way to purchase items they might otherwise not be able to afford.

“I took a picture of my identity card and uploaded it on Shopee to activate my SPaylater,” Putri said, referring to the BNPL service offered by e-commerce platform Shopee.

“It’s very simple. After it got verified, I could use the credit to make payments on the platform.”

Barriers to credit

Credit card applicants in Indonesia are typically required to provide proof of monthly earnings along with a healthy credit score, excluding many low-earners such as Putri, who, in between studying, earns $95-$300 a month writing for a content provider website.

Singapore-headquartered Shopee, where Putri shops regularly, is one of Indonesia’s most visited e-commerce platforms. The platform placed second after homegrown Tokopedia last year, clocking in 126 million monthly visits in the third quarter of 2021.

Shopee’s in-app BNPL service SPaylater is among the most popular of numerous BNPL options in the country, ranking as the most searched deferred payment-related query topic on Google between 2018-2021, according to DSInnovate’s Indonesia Paylater Ecosystem Report 2021. The service offers a 2.95 percent fixed interest rate, with loan periods of one, two, three and six months.

While there’s no publicly available data on the socioeconomic makeup of SPaylater’s users, the service’s branding has been firmly aimed at lower and middle-income Indonesians.

In February, Shopee Indonesia released a series of advertisements featuring Nassar Sungkar, also known as King Nassar, a superstar in the dangdut folk music genre who is especially popular among lower socioeconomic classes.

In one advertisement, a woman is seen standing in front of a family-owned food stall selling food, looking at her phone with a worried expression on her face. “I want to shop, but I’m broke,” she says.

A split second later, Sungkar, wearing a bright, superhero-like cape, appears, before breaking into song and dance. “Let’s use SPaylater. Buy now, pay later!”

Shopee declined to comment when contacted by Al Jazeera.

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“I saw the commercial almost every day on television,” Maisaroh, a Spaylater user, told Al Jazeera. “My 16-month-old likes it so much that she copies the dance whenever it is on.”

Like Putri, Maisaroh, who lives in Subang, West Java, is neck-deep in BNPL debt.

“I used the Shopee app very regularly,” Maisaroh, 30, said. “We live far away from the city, so online shopping makes it easier for me. I don’t even need to go outside to shop; the products will be delivered to my doorstep.”

Hoping to make extra money, Maisaroh then began using BNPL to purchase goods to resell to her neighbours.

“In the beginning, everything went well, and I could even make a little profit,” she said. “Then, a family member fell ill, and the money that was meant to pay for our monthly debt had to be used to pay for the medical treatment.”

When her husband’s monthly salary of about $200 proved inadequate to keep the family afloat and meet the BNPL repayments, Maisaroh purchased more items to resell in the hope of making enough money to pay back their debts, only to make the problem worse.


“We can’t even make ends meet,” Maisaroh said. “How could we pay for those? Then we downloaded many lending apps to try to borrow more money, to buy us some time. But it’s been almost six months since the whole thing started, and now I have more than 30 million Indonesian rupiah [$2,024] in debt.”

While Indonesia is expanding access to financial services, the majority of the population still suffers from low financial literacy. A 2019 survey by the Indonesian Financial Services Authority found that the country scored 38.03 percent on the financial literacy index and 76.19 percent on the financial inclusion index, highlighting a noticeable gap in the public’s understanding of the financial services made available to them.

Ligwina Hananto, founder and CEO of QM Financials, which provides financial literacy programs across the region, said the lack of knowledge is putting people at risk.

When not accompanied by proper financial education, financial inclusion can result in predatory inclusion,” Hananto told Al Jazeera. “The lack of financial literacy among Indonesians, especially those living in rural areas, may put many in vulnerable positions. Particularly when it comes to unsecured loans with high interest rates.”

“Now, people can get loans from various fintech applications. Without understanding the actual risks and consequences, the cultural shame associated with having debts can quickly wear off,” Hananto added.

Sekar Putih Djarot, a spokesperson for the Indonesian Financial Services Authority, said that although the poor financial literacy gap is a problem, debt in the country remains under control.

“The risk profile of financial service institutions in April 2022 was still relatively well-maintained, with the gross non-performing loan ratio of banks recorded at 3 percent, and the gross non-performing financing of financial companies at 2.7 percent,” Djarot told Al Jazeera.

“That said, people need to understand that BNPL is a form of debt, so they must be able to measure their financial ability before deciding to use it.”

Asked if loan restructuring or other assistance is available for heavily indebted borrowers, Djarot said: “They can contact the lenders first, and if there’s a dispute in the process, they can report it to us, and we can facilitate a mediation.”

For struggling borrowers like Maisaroh, it is difficult to see much hope.

“I often have suicidal thoughts,” she said. “They’re on us every day. Tell me, what will happen to us if we can’t find a way to pay?









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that day i use, got diskaun rm10

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There's no excuse for young adults to fall into this debt trap. Terms and conditions refuse/ignorant to read ?

If teenagers then maybe can kesian.




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Spaylater is good if you know how to use it to earn floating interest and use it as a tool to potentially defer credit card payments to maximize cashback.
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Jun 28 2022, 06:03 PM)
Sendiri bodo. Spending money that you don't have.
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hmm.gif I agree with this statement to certain extent.

However, as per quoted from the article:

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“When not accompanied by proper financial education, financial inclusion can result in predatory inclusion,” Hananto told Al Jazeera. “The lack of financial literacy among Indonesians, especially those living in rural areas, may put many in vulnerable positions. Particularly when it comes to unsecured loans with high interest rates.”


The same thing is happening here too. sad.gif

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as usual stupid people spending beyond their means and end up blaming the service/product
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BNPL is a scam la... really there is no value generated. it all started with the purchase of Afterpay by Square...
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Shopee pay later got interest?
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 28 2022, 06:10 PM)
BNPL is a scam la... really there is no value generated. it all started with the purchase of Afterpay by Square...
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it helps to get cashback if you know how to utilise it with certain credit cards
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luckily they didnt qualify for credit card.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 28 2022, 06:10 PM)
BNPL is a scam la... really there is no value generated. it all started with the purchase of Afterpay by Square...
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credit card is scam too?
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 28 2022, 06:06 PM)
Spaylater is good if you know how to use it to earn floating interest and use it as a tool to potentially defer credit card payments to maximize cashback.
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THIS

I agree. Some ppl said it might be stupid. But if u take advantage and discipline, this is the way to roll future money
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 28 2022, 06:13 PM)
it helps to get cashback if you know how to utilise it with certain credit cards
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this is how people become penny wise pound foolish. call me stupid but there must be a catch. one would have to scrutinize the T&C to get a peace of mind. get penalised heavily for missing a payment or make a mistake. i'll pass.
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Jun 28 2022, 06:12 PM)
Shopee pay later got interest?
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it's basically like CC installment....
but typically, there's a reason why you dont qualify for CC.....

these sohai schemes basically target those sohai with loophole of "ayam not credit card, ayam virgin"
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 28 2022, 06:06 PM)
Spaylater is good if you know how to use it to earn floating interest and use it as a tool to potentially defer credit card payments to maximize cashback.
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Sometimes got shopeepay voucher summore. Coin received more than interest. Basically buy with free interest.

Problem is some no discipline stupids think they can use credit service
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kasi chan la...
iphone pro max 13 1tb is RM8k....
i kerja intern at hotdayum kimpal factory aka sri kimpal, celery only RM1k a month
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 28 2022, 06:15 PM)
this is how people become penny wise pound foolish. call me stupid but there must be a catch. one would have to scrutinize the T&C to get a peace of mind. get penalised heavily for missing a payment or make a mistake. i'll pass.
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same goes with credit cards

nothing wrong if you pay your bills on time
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QUOTE(Eurochem @ Jun 28 2022, 06:19 PM)
kasi chan la...
iphone pro max 13 1tb is RM8k....
i kerja intern at hotdayum kimpal factory aka sri kimpal, celery only RM1k a month
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Why do you need 1TB on the phone dayum
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Jun 28 2022, 07:26 PM)
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QUOTE(Eurochem @ Jun 28 2022, 07:19 PM)
kasi chan la...
iphone pro max 13 1tb is RM8k....
i kerja intern at hotdayum kimpal factory aka sri kimpal, celery only RM1k a month
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Lol…

Unker ter pk ktards fresh gard celery…rm5k X 5 times = rm25k phone ohmy.gif

Gila babeng mia phone apa rm25k
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Fwahhh 1TB of prawn somebody gonna dislocate an appendage

QUOTE(Eurochem @ Jun 28 2022, 06:31 PM)
unkle hotdayum everyday belanaja upah...
i right click and save  sad.gif
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Right click on phone eyyy you dun scam 9 unker where got such thing wan?
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Lol…

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How to activate SPay Later

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it's called microloans, and its hurting the banks more than the people.
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Nowadays hard to survive, these facilities exist to help people only.
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QUOTE(iamSUSUman @ Jun 28 2022, 06:39 PM)
it's called microloans, and its hurting the banks more than the people.
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Bank will not simply give loan/credit to "unqualified" people.
Not much hurting for bank.

Though, I do wonder what will happen with all those "bad debts".
If shopee has too many of these "bad debts", what will happen? hmm.gif
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Shopee pay later got interest?
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Got if don't pay full by certain date of the next month. Like credit card.
They also have installment scheme in which the interest already factored in. Interest rates similar to credit card.

I think I use 1 time when it had discount X ringgit if use Spaylater

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 28 2022, 06:42 PM)
Bank will not simply give loan/credit to "unqualified" people.
Not much hurting for bank.

Though, I do wonder what will happen with all those "bad debts".
If shopee has too many of these "bad debts", what will happen? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 28 2022, 06:42 PM)
Bank will not simply give loan/credit to "unqualified" people.
Not much hurting for bank.

Though, I do wonder what will happen with all those "bad debts".
If shopee has too many of these "bad debts", what will happen? hmm.gif
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i'd gladly say wrong, it hurts the bank, a LOT.
there's a real life case study which you can refer to Alibaba.
pretty much everything shopee and lazada do is 80%-100% exact copy of China taobao business, which inside includes microloans as well.

jackma made a lot of enemies, presumably, especially with bankers and financial regulators on this issue.


Only insider bankers know how many "stupid loans" needs to be given to "certain people of ___ race" knowing they have no capability to repay it. So I don't think bank have any moral high ground or any ground in particular to justify who should get or not get loan regarding shopee microloans, because ultimately it should be govern by proactive lawmakers, not reactive.

your last sentence is the real worry, and this ends the spell of microloan and dominance of Jackma in china (microloan sector). And also, like i said earlier, if the banker and financial regulators are in bed together, they will never approve microloand, forget about even about drafting a law for it. It can be regulated, with certain percentage of funds is pledged for every RM loans given out. Same thing for bank.



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One of the story hubby becum sick hence fell into financial difficulty, like this also blame the scheme? As if without the scheme, a sick hubby will not have financial difficulty.
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QUOTE(iamSUSUman @ Jun 28 2022, 07:15 PM)
i'd gladly say wrong, it hurts the bank, a LOT.
there's a real life case study which you can refer to Alibaba.
pretty much everything shopee and lazada do is 80%-100% exact copy of China taobao business, which inside includes microloans as well.

jackma made a lot of enemies, presumably, especially with bankers and financial regulators on this issue.
Only insider bankers know how many "stupid loans" needs to be given to "certain people of ___ race" knowing they have no capability to repay it. So I don't think bank have any moral high ground or any ground in particular to justify who should get or not get loan regarding shopee microloans, because ultimately it should be govern by proactive lawmakers, not reactive.

your last sentence is the real worry, and this ends the spell of microloan and dominance of Jackma in china (microloan sector). And also, like i said earlier, if the banker and financial regulators are in bed together, they will never approve microloand, forget about even about drafting a law for it. It can be regulated, with certain percentage of funds is pledged for every RM loans given out. Same thing for bank.
Hope that answer your question
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Among all stuff China government did, JackMa aside, I believe ending such predatory microloan is the correct move.
Such "bad debts" must be confronted and solved before it reaches the point of no return.

Unfortunately, there is certain mindset YOLO in younger generation today.
They know they will not be able to own luxury goods. They take advantage of the system and abuse it to max.

When it comes to repayment, their responses, "So what, good luck on getting anything from me, it not like I have anything in the first place" dry.gif

One can only hope those contracted third party debt collectors will not resort to using Ah Long / loanshark harassment method.
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The system is indeed arguably predatory.
Its so easy to get into it
I would even dare to say if you're not mindful on where you're clicking during checkout, you can accidentally apply it to your purchases
Not to mention the "promo" coupons
And the adverts
Its not a marketing campaign that is just to pique awareness, its a full blown sales pitch
For a credit line

Like putting a shiny big button of a chest of shiny diamonds with no confirmation dialog at all in kids games
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More like danger of poor money management je....
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 28 2022, 07:31 PM)
Among all stuff China government did, JackMa aside, I believe ending such predatory microloan is the correct move.
Such "bad debts" must be confronted and solved before it reaches the point of no return.

Unfortunately, there is certain mindset YOLO in younger generation today.
They know they will not be able to own luxury goods. They take advantage of the system and abuse it to max.

When it comes to repayment, their responses, "So what, good luck on getting anything from me, it not like I have anything in the first place" dry.gif

One can only hope those contracted third party debt collectors will not resort to using Ah Long / loanshark harassment method.
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yes this is the concerning part. even though it's microloan, if accumulated, the company if not audited well like that particular shoplot company will have spillover effects. this is exactly what financial regulator must foresee and draft laws to regulate.
sample scenario: shopee msia subsidiary can do a Tony boy move if they accumulated big enough debt, declare bankruptcy and say bye bye, leaving the banks and other financial institutions lending money to shopee in lurch.

that being said,
it remains to be seen if the banks taiko give the FM a thumbs up and go ahead for other players to enable microloan in the market.

it's a game for the big boys.
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I also use Grab Pay Later but not that extreme.
They give me RM4000, but I rarely reach RM300 per month in Food, Car, Express etc spending.
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But mostly under utilised.
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I also use Grab Pay Later but not that extreme.
They give me RM4000, but I rarely reach RM300 per month in Food, Car, Express etc spending.
Only if I want to buy big things baru pakai.
But mostly under utilised.
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Grab pay later no interest..shopee pay later got interest or not
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Shopee pay later got interest?
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Spaylater u can defer the payment for 1 month which doesnt have any interest.

But if you split the payment to 3,6 or 12 mths , then there is 1.25% interest per month.

I dont know how anyone can struggle to pay because the max limit is only 6.5k and not everyone gets it. Most ppl start with 2k then they will slowly upgrade your limit .
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Grab pay later no interest..shopee pay later got interest or not
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Grabpay, Atome, myiou, Hoolah all no interest but the drawback is only can split to 3 or 4 months installment.

Spaylater can split up to 12 mths .

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THIS

I agree. Some ppl said it might be stupid. But if u take advantage and discipline, this is the way to roll future money
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https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/6/28...act-heavy-price

In Indonesia, ‘pay later’ services leave some drowning in debt
Buy now, pay later services take off in Southeast Asian country where most people don’t have a bank account.

Ubud, Indonesia – Nadhea Putri’s mounting debt began with a single mobile phone purchase.

Putri, who lives in Kuala Kapuas, Central Kalimantan, about 1,600km from Jakarta, had dreamed of upgrading to a newer model for months but did not have enough cash.

Then, earlier this year, the 21-year-old university student noticed an option to buy now, pay later (BNPL) offered on the checkout page of her favourite online shopping app. It took her less than 24 hours to activate the payment method, and the phone – which cost nearly five times her monthly earnings – was finally hers in February.

More than four months later, Putri is still struggling to pay back the balance, along with mounting interest.

“I’m too scared to even use my new phone now,” Putri told Al Jazeera, asking to use a pseudonym to protect her anonymity. “Every day, debt collectors call me more than 20 times. I feel terrorised, but I can’t tell my parents. I don’t want to burden them.”

BNPL, which lets customers pay for goods in instalments at varying rates of interest, has helped to plug a significant lending gap in Indonesia. Credit card penetration in the country is notoriously low, sitting at a meagre 6 percent in 2021, with nearly 65 percent of Indonesia’s 275 million population remaining unbanked.

As the country’s population has moved increasingly online in recent years, digital payment methods like BNPL have experienced a surge in usage. Indonesia’s mobile internet penetration, at 68 percent in 2021, is now among the highest in the region and is projected to hit 79 percent by 2025.

Smartphone users like Putri have been drawn to BNPL as a quick and easy way to purchase items they might otherwise not be able to afford.

“I took a picture of my identity card and uploaded it on Shopee to activate my SPaylater,” Putri said, referring to the BNPL service offered by e-commerce platform Shopee.

“It’s very simple. After it got verified, I could use the credit to make payments on the platform.”

Barriers to credit

Credit card applicants in Indonesia are typically required to provide proof of monthly earnings along with a healthy credit score, excluding many low-earners such as Putri, who, in between studying, earns $95-$300 a month writing for a content provider website.

Singapore-headquartered Shopee, where Putri shops regularly, is one of Indonesia’s most visited e-commerce platforms. The platform placed second after homegrown Tokopedia last year, clocking in 126 million monthly visits in the third quarter of 2021.

Shopee’s in-app BNPL service SPaylater is among the most popular of numerous BNPL options in the country, ranking as the most searched deferred payment-related query topic on Google between 2018-2021, according to DSInnovate’s Indonesia Paylater Ecosystem Report 2021. The service offers a 2.95 percent fixed interest rate, with loan periods of one, two, three and six months.

While there’s no publicly available data on the socioeconomic makeup of SPaylater’s users, the service’s branding has been firmly aimed at lower and middle-income Indonesians.

In February, Shopee Indonesia released a series of advertisements featuring Nassar Sungkar, also known as King Nassar, a superstar in the dangdut folk music genre who is especially popular among lower socioeconomic classes.

In one advertisement, a woman is seen standing in front of a family-owned food stall selling food, looking at her phone with a worried expression on her face. “I want to shop, but I’m broke,” she says.

A split second later, Sungkar, wearing a bright, superhero-like cape, appears, before breaking into song and dance. “Let’s use SPaylater. Buy now, pay later!”

Shopee declined to comment when contacted by Al Jazeera.

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“I saw the commercial almost every day on television,”  Maisaroh, a Spaylater user, told Al Jazeera. “My 16-month-old likes it so much that she copies the dance whenever it is on.”

Like Putri, Maisaroh, who lives in Subang, West Java, is neck-deep in BNPL debt.

“I used the Shopee app very regularly,” Maisaroh, 30, said. “We live far away from the city, so online shopping makes it easier for me. I don’t even need to go outside to shop; the products will be delivered to my doorstep.”

Hoping to make extra money, Maisaroh then began using BNPL to purchase goods to resell to her neighbours.

“In the beginning, everything went well, and I could even make a little profit,” she said. “Then, a family member fell ill, and the money that was meant to pay for our monthly debt had to be used to pay for the medical treatment.”

When her husband’s monthly salary of about $200 proved inadequate to keep the family afloat and meet the BNPL repayments, Maisaroh purchased more items to resell in the hope of making enough money to pay back their debts, only to make the problem worse.


“We can’t even make ends meet,” Maisaroh said. “How could we pay for those? Then we downloaded many lending apps to try to borrow more money, to buy us some time. But it’s been almost six months since the whole thing started, and now I have more than 30 million Indonesian rupiah [$2,024] in debt.”

While Indonesia is expanding access to financial services, the majority of the population still suffers from low financial literacy. A 2019 survey by the Indonesian Financial Services Authority found that the country scored 38.03 percent on the financial literacy index and 76.19 percent on the financial inclusion index, highlighting a noticeable gap in the public’s understanding of the financial services made available to them.

Ligwina Hananto, founder and CEO of QM Financials, which provides financial literacy programs across the region, said the lack of knowledge is putting people at risk.

When not accompanied by proper financial education, financial inclusion can result in predatory inclusion,” Hananto told Al Jazeera. “The lack of financial literacy among Indonesians, especially those living in rural areas, may put many in vulnerable positions. Particularly when it comes to unsecured loans with high interest rates.”

“Now, people can get loans from various fintech applications. Without understanding the actual risks and consequences, the cultural shame associated with having debts can quickly wear off,” Hananto added.

Sekar Putih Djarot, a spokesperson for the Indonesian Financial Services Authority, said that although the poor financial literacy gap is a problem, debt in the country remains under control.

“The risk profile of financial service institutions in April 2022 was still relatively well-maintained, with the gross non-performing loan ratio of banks recorded at 3 percent, and the gross non-performing financing of financial companies at 2.7 percent,” Djarot told Al Jazeera.

“That said, people need to understand that BNPL is a form of debt, so they must be able to measure their financial ability before deciding to use it.”

Asked if loan restructuring or other assistance is available for heavily indebted borrowers, Djarot said: “They can contact the lenders first, and if there’s a dispute in the process, they can report it to us, and we can facilitate a mediation.”

For struggling borrowers like Maisaroh, it is difficult to see much hope.

“I often have suicidal thoughts,” she said. “They’re on us every day. Tell me, what will happen to us if we can’t find a way to pay?

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Isn't this predatory lending practices? Shouldn't this be regulated?
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Spay later got interest?, I thought it's 0%

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Isn't this predatory lending practices? Shouldn't this be regulated?
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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ Jun 28 2022, 08:55 PM)
Isn't this predatory lending practices? Shouldn't this be regulated?
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how is it predatory?

terms are all stated there.


i got bad news, if you stupid, everything is predatory for you
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Jun 28 2022, 09:06 PM)
how is it predatory?

terms are all stated there.
i got bad news, if you stupid, everything is predatory for you
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Either you're trolling or just have bad understanding of English.
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Only pay later for house and car. Cash for everything else.
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You never make installment plans on furniture? Either u super rich can buy granite dining table set cash... Or u only use Ikea / pasar borong furniture.... Don't fucking lie bro

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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Jun 28 2022, 09:47 PM)
You never make installment plans on furniture? Either u super rich can buy granite dining table set cash... Or u only use Ikea / pasar borong furniture.... Don't fucking lie bro
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instalments for tables and chairs? laugh.gif
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That's one example... You specifically said only house and cars.
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it helps to get cashback if you know how to utilise it with certain credit cards
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Can teach?

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 28 2022, 08:49 PM)
Spaylater u can defer the payment for 1 month which doesnt have any interest.

But if you split the payment to 3,6 or 12 mths , then there is 1.25% interest per month.

I dont know how anyone can struggle to pay because the max limit is only 6.5k and not everyone gets it. Most ppl start with 2k then they will slowly upgrade your limit .
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How come my limit only 600?

How to get higher limit?

Or they only give higher limit to those who have bad credits?

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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Jun 28 2022, 10:19 PM)
Can teach?
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For example your credit card only earns cashback for weekend spendings (eg Maybank 2 card AMEX), then you can utilise Spaylater and buy the item immediately. When its time to settle the bill, you can settle it on weekends by paying using the card

Or for example your credit card support cashback for online spendings but ewallet reloads doesn't count (eg Public Bank Quantum Master Card), then you can use Spaylater and settle the bill with the card. Or you can straight check out using card for this case

I usually only use Spaylater for the first scenario
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 28 2022, 10:46 PM)
For example your credit card only earns cashback for weekend spendings (eg Maybank 2 card AMEX), then you can utilise Spaylater and buy the item immediately. When its time to settle the bill, you can settle it on weekends by paying using the card

Or for example your credit card support cashback for online spendings but ewallet reloads doesn't count (eg Public Bank Quantum Master Card), then you can use Spaylater and settle the bill with the card. Or you can straight check out using card for this case

I usually only use Spaylater for the first scenario
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Nothing new.

Back then was easy approval credit cards, from banks who got their money lending license from Bank Negara Malaysia. Now, it's e-commerce platforms, who also got their money lending license from BNM.

If you are a teenage, ask your parents about debt trap. If you are parent remember to teach them about responsible financing.
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Anything that you cannot pay in full by the end of the month - dont buy with credit card/loan/paylater. Except car/house.
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Jun 28 2022, 10:14 PM)
That's one example... You specifically said only house and cars.
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How come my limit only 600?

How to get higher limit?

Or they only give higher limit to those who have bad credits?
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Lol, of course higher limit to those with better credit history. Probably i dont have any credit history thats why low limit. U need to spend and pay on time for few months then they will increase the limit
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hahahha my immunity to online shopping is like a tank.
I think my total purchase is less than RM 100 or 200 for the past 5 years.
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my shopee dont even have this option leh...kesian
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I for one love the paylater services. It's easy to pay on time.
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lul. saw shitpee spaylater with interest, then i didnt even bother to think about it anymore
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Pay Later pay with credit card, later credit card also fail to pay, then buy more things with Pay Later
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 28 2022, 06:42 PM)
Bank will not simply give loan/credit to "unqualified" people.
Not much hurting for bank.

Though, I do wonder what will happen with all those "bad debts".
If shopee has too many of these "bad debts", what will happen? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 28 2022, 08:49 PM)
Spaylater u can defer the payment for 1 month which doesnt have any interest.

But if you split the payment to 3,6 or 12 mths , then there is 1.25% interest per month.

I dont know how anyone can struggle to pay because the max limit is only 6.5k and not everyone gets it. Most ppl start with 2k then they will slowly upgrade your limit .
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Mine shopeey limit rm 6000 only. Only can split payment up to 6 months only..

Now i got hutang quite a lot with this shoppeyy... Zzz

For next month payment. I already make payment clear it.. rm 700... Zzzzz
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Why this is an issue when credit card has been like this all along since beginning?
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hahahha my immunity to online shopping is like a tank.
I think my total purchase is less than RM 100 or 200 for the past 5 years.
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So you rather pay extra to retail?
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So you rather pay extra to retail?
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Pay Later pay with credit card, later credit card also fail to pay, then buy more things with Pay Later
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So hutang both pay later and credit card...just as planned
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How to activate SPay Later

Until now i still didnt get invitation to activate?

Is it because I’m not a frequent user?
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Fwahhh 1TB of prawn somebody gonna dislocate an appendage
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I for one love the paylater services. It's easy to pay on time.
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is there any benefit from using paylater if we pay back on time? whats the difference from just using normal shopee pay/ebanking direct payment?


QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 29 2022, 08:09 AM)
Why this is an issue when credit card has been like this all along since beginning?
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its credit card minus the credit score assessment and proof of income

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kawal nafsu,
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Agreed with you. I sudah kena. Now slowly stop using this shopeey pay lateer..
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is there any benefit from using paylater if we pay back on time? whats the difference from just using normal shopee pay/ebanking direct payment?
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For me because due to the nature of shopee. The risk of your package getting lost/damaged etc. It's safer to use paylater. at least no amount will be deducted from your bank account first. They will just reset back your paylater limit. Else have to wait 14 business days for a refund to be credited back to your account.
blitzkrieg69
post Jun 29 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Letmetellu @ Jun 29 2022, 10:09 AM)
For me because due to the nature of shopee. The risk of your package getting lost/damaged etc. It's safer to use paylater. at least no amount will be deducted from your bank account first. They will just reset back your paylater limit. Else have to wait 14 business days for a refund to be credited back to your account.
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interesting. never thought of it like that before. but i have personally encountered situations where i demand refunds and even though they say within 14 biz days they usually are fast. sometimes within 1 day in my exp


 

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