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Gempar: Pemudi terkejut sewa rumah ikut bangsa, hmm...
Gempar: Pemudi terkejut sewa rumah ikut bangsa, hmm...
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Jun 17 2022, 08:18 AM, updated 4y ago
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Jun 17 2022, 08:20 AM
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awal2 start engine
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Jun 17 2022, 08:20 AM
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I wonder if owner specify...?
Or agent sendiri act smart and proactive blurt this out? |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:21 AM
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kecian
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Jun 17 2022, 08:22 AM
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Alot of government forms also need to key in race. Institutionalized racism. Get used to it.
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Jun 17 2022, 08:24 AM
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owner has the right to be racist
im ok with that...as long as you dont hide the fact that you are racist. |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:26 AM
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nothing wrong..since we r born in a racist country tgeoklin, pandera999, and 2 others liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:26 AM
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its a race based land.....so....... reality hurts pandera999, NoComment222, and 2 others liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:27 AM
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owner has the right to evaluate the profile of the prospect tenant. race is one of the element in the profile. Koranshita, NoComment222, and 2 others liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:29 AM
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Talk is easy, wait until one becum landlord and subject to be abused by shitty tenants.
The laws are always on the tenant side, so the only thing one can do to protect own right is by selecting tenant. |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:29 AM
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Lahanat, make rent house lagi nak pattern. Otak masuk air lifeislikeadream liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:30 AM
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Blame the gov
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Jun 17 2022, 08:30 AM
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Normal la..... aku nk bagi sewa rumah pun kena tgk juga sape. Nanti takut jd masalah pd penyewa juga bila jiran2 pun berbeza cara hidup tgeoklin, pandera999, and 9 others liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:30 AM
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welcum to Mesia
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Jun 17 2022, 08:30 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 08:31 AM
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maybe owner just follow gov institutionalized racism style. Like father like son.
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Jun 17 2022, 08:31 AM
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house is private property, owner can be racist.
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QUOTE(Chrix @ Jun 17 2022, 08:26 AM) Syok sendiri virtue vs harsh realityWe love to think all potential tenants are angels, but reality is many tenants are Satan from hell. tgeoklin, Digifriend07, and 4 others liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:31 AM
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Inb4, kalau tak suka....beli rumah sendiri ericangtzeann, Koranshita, and 4 others liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:32 AM
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Lady it's 2020 get woke.
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Jun 17 2022, 08:33 AM
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Ini bumi milik siapa<< shud b the most racist claim
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Jun 17 2022, 08:34 AM
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Belum lagi tengok sewa rumah ikut jantina Digifriend07, bjy8138, and 2 others liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:34 AM
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anyone noticed such complaint about racism in house rental normally initiated by indian?
then complaint about mandarin requirement in job market were normally initiated by the oren? |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 17 2022, 08:32 AM) Never rent to Karen yunodie liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:36 AM
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Years ago, when I was looking for a house to rent for my workers, the Malay landlord told me this, "Jika Cina, tak payah deposit. Bayar cukup sebelum 1hb bulan sahaja." To sweeten the deal, I told him will pay via online transfer or PD cheques. He chose the PD cheques. Gave him 2 years worth. After that, never saw him again. Never seen someone so happy over rent before. AgogoLatoto, bjy8138, and 5 others liked this post
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sama la. suruh dia tinggal serumah dengan bangla/nepal/rohinghya dia mahu ke? fapman, playnice96, and 1 other liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:36 AM
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The screenshot is base's on one claimed as estate agent Plus this is screenshot from no body, I see no credibility Nice try TS vroom vroom away pagi, please close thread and post hnngh topic instead GoodDick and Digifriend07 liked this post
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jom bet
landlord is chinese potential renter is indian lai2...place your bets |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:37 AM
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let me guess it is the paling tertindas one? Digifriend07 liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:38 AM
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Must be new and first day reporting. Racing abit terasa
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Jun 17 2022, 08:38 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 08:39 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 17 2022, 08:31 AM) Syok sendiri virtue vs harsh reality not just landlords are afraid, even as neighbours we are afraid of bad tenants next doorWe love to think all potential tenants are angels, but reality is many tenants are Satan from hell. if the landlord next door made the wrong decision, the neighbour will suffer just imagine the tenant bring in their whole village to stay in one house, the noise really like wetmarket |
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Jun 17 2022, 08:34 AM) anyone noticed such complaint about racism in house rental normally initiated by indian? cheena on the other hand komplen anak cheena cannot get scholarship and desired job position in goverment then complaint about mandarin requirement in job market were normally initiated by the oren? all same same lah This post has been edited by yungkit14: Jun 17 2022, 08:40 AM pobox, playnice96, and 1 other liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:40 AM
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start debating already? find some ideas here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5266466
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Jun 17 2022, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 17 2022, 08:39 AM) Lol how does one skin color affect ones tenancy? don't be naiveAre you implying some race are more prone to drug related crime? even bank give out loan also profiling across race line kesian bjy8138 liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:41 AM
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rented my house last month, no keyword salam auto ghost..felt bad tho
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Jun 17 2022, 08:41 AM
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Being a houseowner, u will worry how people take care of your house.
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Jun 17 2022, 08:41 AM
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M4A1 can bukak gerai here.
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Landlords have the final say on who they want to rent their property to.
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Jun 17 2022, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 17 2022, 08:29 AM) Talk is easy, wait until one becum landlord and subject to be abused by shitty tenants. Bohooo if tenants get screwed, they will just be homeless.The laws are always on the tenant side, so the only thing one can do to protect own right is by selecting tenant. If landlords get screwed, imagine all cleaning up i have to do while still holding on to this hundreds of thousand of this asset. |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 17 2022, 08:29 AM) Talk is easy, wait until one becum landlord and subject to be abused by shitty tenants. This.The laws are always on the tenant side, so the only thing one can do to protect own right is by selecting tenant. Wait till u meet a tenant from hell. There are fukimug who pour cement powder down the wc, sink before pulling a Houdini. amboi_asamboi liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:44 AM
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no give race, deposit is 12mths rent.
give race, deposit 1 mth rent no give sex, 12mth deposit give sex, rent is free |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:44 AM
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Dup post*
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Jun 17 2022, 08:44 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 08:44 AM
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i got bilik to sewa...noice location pulak tu...no 1 call pun chibai betul
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if u have problem to disclose info i require, no fuking way u get to rent my property. at least ask race not ask your skin color
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Jun 17 2022, 08:48 AM
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One day hospital also based on race. Oh you ini race kah oh sorry we full house no empty slot, good luck. GoneCase liked this post
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Cakap macam first day in Malaysia..
Pergi tengok rumah sewa kat Kelantan, Terengganu.. "Preferred Muslim, Org Melayu" |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:52 AM
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every race has diff culture and bad habits bjy8138 liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:52 AM
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true owner have rights to choose their potential tenant u tak sukak u go buy a house pls bjy8138 liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 08:52 AM
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Gov still practice Bumi right which covers even much more vast areas from individual to economics. And people bitching about choosing race for rent. bjy8138 liked this post
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jun 17 2022, 08:48 AM) One day hospital also based on race. Oh you ini race kah oh sorry we full house no empty slot, good luck. Can we start that? Malay doctor for malay. Chinese doctor for Chinese, Indian doctor for Indian.Doctor should have the right to choose their patient right? Later scare other race can't pay. |
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Actually why need to ask what race terus terang. Just ask them the full name already know la. This post has been edited by poweredbydiscuz: Jun 17 2022, 08:56 AM dobot7 and max_cavalera liked this post
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 17 2022, 08:39 AM) Lol how does one skin color affect ones tenancy? maybe first you can explain why some specific community like to drink beer and gather by the roadside/playground area, smash beer bottle on the ground, even bring a portable radio (i was like wth when i saw it) and dance till to the wee hours in the morning?Are you implying some race are more prone to drug related crime? and i have seen such things in several neighbourhoods. I even moved out from one neighbourhood and moved to another newer neighbourhood only to see the same thing again. Damn I'm not a landlord but as neighbour, this is a nightmare to me. |
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I think bank also see race when you apply loan.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jun 17 2022, 08:40 AM) Hahahaha suddenly I remember about a story my friend shared with me. My friend work in a local bank in the loan department, whenever they screen through the applicant, they got their own unspoken rules for this certain race with certain name. Its funny because they doesn't reject all that race application, but more like rejecting those with that name. |
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Jun 17 2022, 08:59 AM
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She's like bananajoe type, too sensitive and reactive max_cavalera liked this post
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Most of the time it is the race itself that mempersiasuikan sendiri and cause people to have bias |
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Ape nak terkejut? Beli rumah pun tengok bangsa....yang kaya raya pun dapat diskaun !
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jun 17 2022, 08:57 AM) maybe first you can explain why some specific community like to drink beer and gather by the roadside/playground area, smash beer bottle on the ground, even bring a portable radio (i was like wth when i saw it) and dance till to the wee hours in the morning? They are everywhere including Damansara which they should not beand i have seen such things in several neighbourhoods. I even moved out from one neighbourhood and moved to another newer neighbourhood only to see the same thing again. Damn I'm not a landlord but as neighbour, this is a nightmare to me. |
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 17 2022, 08:59 AM) Hahahaha suddenly I remember about a story my friend shared with me. My friend work in a local bank in the loan department, whenever they screen through the applicant, they got their own unspoken rules for this certain race with certain name. Tell la tell la Its funny because they doesn't reject all that race application, but more like rejecting those with that name. |
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Rase is " I am PC masterrace you peasant"
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indians are the only race that tak dapat racist with others in malaysia. instead, they racist within own community based on caste and skin colour. oh, and luckily got bangla and Nepal people also. jojolicia and playnice96 liked this post
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My last tenant also indian so much problem so much headache
My neighbor also he even worst ...he actually agreed to pay them 1 month worth of rent on top of a few outstanding months of rent they owed ...talk about kesian |
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jun 17 2022, 08:40 AM) not just landlords are afraid, even as neighbours we are afraid of bad tenants next door I saw one case...Owner rent to a grab food rider... Supposedly 3 or 4 people only...if the landlord next door made the wrong decision, the neighbour will suffer just imagine the tenant bring in their whole village to stay in one house, the noise really like wetmarket Then become around 10 people... Got a lot motor vroom vroom sound and shower in the garden |
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lgi gempar beli rumah dpt additional discount kpd sesetengah kaum
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Jun 17 2022, 09:04 AM
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If i were to choose a tenant...i would choose tenants that have a good occupation. Lecturer, accountant, doctor are a yes. Businessman a no. max_cavalera liked this post
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what is the problem to choose
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wow people easily trigger.
but when submit form, need to state race as well. why not trigger as well ? |
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When separating blood bags at the blood bank by race? GoneCase liked this post
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jun 17 2022, 09:05 AM) wow people easily trigger. the govt ask for your race in nearly all application form from your birth to your death. no one complain alsobut when submit form, need to state race as well. why not trigger as well ? Lancer07 liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 09:08 AM
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Kesian why the agent yang kena. He/she is only doing his job
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QUOTE(sazfar @ Jun 17 2022, 10:02 AM) or property agent very greedy by the cents one wun care race as long commission masukwhat for give discount that affect their commission max_cavalera liked this post
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QUOTE(Letmetellu @ Jun 17 2022, 09:08 AM) Hmm. Just like Nazi soldiers killing Jews, they just doing their job. langstrasse and GoneCase liked this post
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please, be proud of yourself.
what the F when people asking 'what is your race', you avoid answering that??????????? they can look down upon you. but you shouldnt be proud. tell them, I am a Malay/Chinese/Indian etc, and if they are not happy, so be it. |
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QUOTE(-H20- @ Jun 17 2022, 09:13 AM) please, be proud of yourself. What is your race?what the F when people asking 'what is your race', you avoid answering that??????????? they can look down upon you. but you shouldnt be proud. tell them, I am a Malay/Chinese/Indian etc, and if they are not happy, so be it. dobot7 liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 09:14 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 09:14 AM
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so C vs I?
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Jun 17 2022, 09:16 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 09:16 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 17 2022, 09:03 AM) I found this in my letterbox after my tenant moved out and disappeared ![]() And my mailbox is full of letters from people i dont know, ie not the tenant i rented to. Kinda like people simply use the address to apply for loan etc? Bank no check ka? This post has been edited by amboi_asamboi: Jun 17 2022, 09:21 AM |
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Jun 17 2022, 09:21 AM
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Unker room ad oso terang2 tulis male preferably. Actually almost like must be male.
Coz other housemate is male. I dont want any problem in the future. |
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Why terkejut? Masuk uni pun ikut race
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Jun 17 2022, 09:24 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 09:25 AM
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Rumah dia dia tak boleh tau details tenant ke?
Inb4 tak boleh bagi nama sebab nanti boleh identify race, tak boleh bagitau kerja sebab nanti dia discriminate kerja, tak boleh bagitau umur sebab discriminate age, tak boleh bagitau jantina sebab sexist, tak boleh bagitau semua benda sebab privacy. Yes sila pigi tinggal di gua sahaja. |
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Jun 17 2022, 09:28 AM
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Rumah I, i pilih tenant I, ini hak I.
Lu tak suka, jangan naik kenderaan I. Naik la Grab! |
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QUOTE(kenny B @ Jun 17 2022, 09:24 AM) flaw pula alamak ,sigh .admit la every race also komplen king jer GoneCase liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 09:31 AM
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Agent have the right though..
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Jun 17 2022, 09:31 AM
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gempar la sangat
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Usually these will be clearly stated in the ads kalau tidak then is the fault of the owner/agent who provide inaccurate information.
But this race segregation thing isn't new & has been around for n-years and debated many times yet no changes. |
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Jun 17 2022, 09:38 AM
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Uhm seems like when observing the demographic in that twitter post, mostly are unhappy indians bandwagoning and rebelling in this twitter post and even flaming with death threats on peoples that mention that house owner have the rights to choose their tenants race. Ini kali kah?
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what wrong if owner wants to know race.... even in our gomen official form, school enrollment forms...bank form... HR form... all also need to state "Race/Bangsa"...
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by knowing the race, the owner have eliminate some possibilities. good decision.
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Jun 17 2022, 09:41 AM
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Agent want to know the race, because malay got special discounted bumi unit what.. If other race like cina indian then cant do anything, will have to buy the unit without discount
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Jun 17 2022, 09:41 AM
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So yindia landlord mcm mana? Why not helping own race?
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My friend willing to rent to them but only if they provide enough information to show they were on the lower risk type. Information such as salary, job, office, family etc etc.
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Jun 17 2022, 09:43 AM
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When snowflakes become gungho human rights activists is when the world regresses backwards.
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Itu rumah dia, suka hati dia lah
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sohai...
must rent to u? butthurt |
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open tender repair lrt escalator pun for bumi company only...apa salah rental choose race?
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of couuse need to know the race...
nanti negro baru tau... buat dadah. |
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Jun 17 2022, 09:48 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 09:50 AM
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well, from my perspective as a real estate negotiator, its not like i didnt want the business but most of the time I dodge a bullet by rejecting certain races.
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Jun 17 2022, 09:52 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 09:54 AM
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suggestion to prevent butthurt in future : ask for CV of potential tenant with picture attached. its not a sensitive document pipul usually reluctant to share. u can see the racing there. u can see what job he/she does there. etc if not happy with any detail, just say tq but no. no reason needed. no butthurt caused sonark liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Jun 17 2022, 09:41 AM) When you are a landlord, help is the last time comes to mind 😅 JeremyLord liked this post
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 17 2022, 09:57 AM) Buy own property. Settled. Forget expensive car house come first. Those who bought property in Klang in early 2000 are damn lucky bunch.My friends 20 ++. Bought landed house .5mil in price. If he can get a loan to do that others can as well. Same with TTDI and Kelana Jaya in mid 90s |
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When we allow petty prejudices to colour our lifes, we will always be limited in our vision. There have been many groups that made racism an agenda and caused untold suffering eg KKK, Spanish conquistador, Nazis, Belgian Congo and many more. As Malaysians, is this the path we want to follow? langstrasse and Kaya Butter Toast liked this post
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at highway only, but make sure your car is fast enough
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of course C & I never racist they are people yang tertindas and suci.
Only UMNO govt is racist, and when PH in govt they are incompetent thus this racist policies continues. |
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Jun 17 2022, 10:03 AM
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Can non-bumi buy bumi house?
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QUOTE(Bendot @ Jun 17 2022, 09:04 AM) If i were to choose a tenant...i would choose tenants that have a good occupation. Lecturer, accountant, doctor are a yes. Businessman a no. Very true.Usually businessmen (even how rich they are), they tend to behave like caveman. Usually professionals behave better. Usually if want to move in to a new neighbourhood, need to ask who is the neighbour. |
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*buat-buat terkejut*
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QUOTE(biggie @ Jun 17 2022, 10:00 AM) of course C & I never racist they are people yang tertindas and suci. PH tried, but too many extremist in this country want the racist policies to continue, i doubt our defend forces have enough manpower to stop them, they kind of ganas type when triggered, so better not to trigger themOnly UMNO govt is racist, and when PH in govt they are incompetent thus this racist policies continues. ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Jun 17 2022, 09:41 AM) They themselves dont want to invite troubleQUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 17 2022, 10:03 AM) yes, all sorts of issues with tenants, late payments or very late or dont pay at all |
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Jun 17 2022, 10:13 AM
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which minister wanted to tackle this racist problem in rental market? masih kaji?
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Jun 17 2022, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(sazfar @ Jun 17 2022, 08:18 AM) topkek agent miss yap get free exposure lel016-3326802 https://www.facebook.com/Findproperty2u-1782778682007174/ |
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At least /k here admit cainis oso lacist..move on
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Jun 17 2022, 10:18 AM
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icerd? not signed.
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Jun 17 2022, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jun 17 2022, 09:28 AM) Which part of my post saying the owner is Chinese?As I said, I was just referring to the Twitter post, so it was the about the Chinese agent vs Indian tenant. How do I know agent is Chinese? Well the phone number is not censored. Do you even read the Twitter post before getting triggered? |
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 17 2022, 08:39 AM) Lol how does one skin color affect ones tenancy? Not color but race. Behavior is to some extend inherited, either by genetic, or culture. 😌Are you implying some race are more prone to drug related crime? I used to not support this kind of racist policy, until I had an I****n tenant who refused to move out although not paying rent. 🥲 Should we profile people based on race? No. But I wouldn't take any risk. 😌 |
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QUOTE(Rudd @ Jun 17 2022, 10:25 AM) Which part of my post saying the owner is Chinese? how on earth race of agent got to do with what owner want?As I said, I was just referring to the Twitter post, so it was the about the Chinese agent vs Indian tenant. How do I know agent is Chinese? Well the phone number is not censored. Do you even read the Twitter post before getting triggered? you think agent want to limit their pools of customers? kesian ni This post has been edited by desmond2020: Jun 17 2022, 10:28 AM |
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QUOTE(knight_hawk @ Jun 17 2022, 09:59 AM) When we allow petty prejudices to colour our lifes, we will always be limited in our vision. There have been many groups that made racism an agenda and caused untold suffering eg KKK, Spanish conquistador, Nazis, Belgian Congo and many more. As Malaysians, is this the path we want to follow? we are already there and going all in |
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Jun 17 2022, 10:09 AM) PH tried, but too many extremist in this country want the racist policies to continue, i doubt our defend forces have enough manpower to stop them, they kind of ganas type when triggered, so better not to trigger them PH members need to breed more, so the kaum suci and tertindas will gain prominence![]() ![]() |
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just saying, 3 house away from me, first tenant kena chase by ah long and house got burn down at midnight, luckily fire stop on time. beside this house also same vroom, previous tenant lari because hutang ah long also. then new tenant come lcly say he very rich, 6 months after that lari also because hutang ah long and front neighbour money. coincidentally, all same vroom. seems like it's easier to hit this kind of tenant rather than tio toto. 3 lari at same timing which is in wee hour in the morning. This post has been edited by a13solut3: Jun 17 2022, 10:31 AM jojolicia and Avangelice liked this post
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Kek, if the fella triggered kena ask what race he is.. can guess which race already.
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Why cannot ask? Later rented to tenant doing illegal business how? The owner is liable one ok
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The law is shaping how people behave.
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last night i see one family rented house, move out from rented house. this morning home owner just arrived, ask neigbour where is the tenant owning money. no need ask race, this one very femes JonSpark and Avangelice liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 10:33 AM
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later rumah become tongkang pecah siapa yang tanggung lulz
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Government form also asked for race
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dont like then buy your own house.. If poor then dont complain so much.. c64 liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 17 2022, 10:29 AM) just saying, 3 house away from me, first tenant kena chase by ah long and house got burn down at midnight, luckily fire stop on time. why your neighborhood attract these kind of scums one?beside this house also same vroom, previous tenant lari because hutang ah long also. then new tenant come lcly say he very rich, 6 months after that lari also because hutang ah long and front neighbour money. coincidentally, all same vroom. seems like it's easier to hit this kind of tenant rather than tio toto. 3 lari at same timing which is in wee hour in the morning. |
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Jun 17 2022, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 17 2022, 10:29 AM) just saying, 3 house away from me, first tenant kena chase by ah long and house got burn down at midnight, luckily fire stop on time. Gg that house is ahlong playgroundbeside this house also same vroom, previous tenant lari because hutang ah long also. then new tenant come lcly say he very rich, 6 months after that lari also because hutang ah long and front neighbour money. coincidentally, all same vroom. seems like it's easier to hit this kind of tenant rather than tio toto. 3 lari at same timing which is in wee hour in the morning. |
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Jun 17 2022, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(kens88` @ Jun 17 2022, 08:20 AM) All owners will ask race . Even myself ask race when rent out my properties. In my 15 years experience, it is well known 1 particular race always give big headache. |
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Jun 17 2022, 10:45 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 10:50 AM
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So? Buy house also need to see which race buy got discount
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Jun 17 2022, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(Bendot @ Jun 17 2022, 09:04 AM) If i were to choose a tenant...i would choose tenants that have a good occupation. Lecturer, accountant, doctor are a yes. Businessman a no. Thats the worst thing to do. I have met many tenants providing fake documents to prove they are professionals. And if they are professionals, why the heck do they want to rent from u when they can buy their own? 9/10 of that particular race give problem. So instead of trying to find that 1 good one, just reject all of them. Its not worth the risk ,money and time to chase them out in the event they dont pay |
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Jun 17 2022, 11:04 AM
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panlai talk kok but not good paymaster also no use.
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Jun 17 2022, 11:06 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 11:09 AM
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walaupun semua orang pandai berlumba, janganlan berlumba di jalan raya, yang kena langgar mati dan yg melanggar nanti masuk penjara
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Jun 17 2022, 11:13 AM
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Hari jumaat pun racetrack open ka dey
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Jun 17 2022, 11:18 AM
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tongkat pun race je. its normal.
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Jun 17 2022, 11:18 AM
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I'm Chinese but I preferred rent to Malay family. Am I racist?
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Jun 17 2022, 11:19 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 11:20 AM
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I think ask CCRIS report as supplement doc.
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Jun 17 2022, 11:31 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 17 2022, 10:42 AM) All owners will ask race . Even myself ask race when rent out my properties. In my 15 years experience, it is well known 1 particular race always give big headache. Ayam blur. Which particular race? Paint everyone in that same race with same brush.? What if half-mixed with that race? Guilty also? |
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Jun 17 2022, 11:35 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 11:38 AM
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If u experienced renting to drug maker... Not trafficker. U know how important to filter out.
Be cbai to others, be good to yrself, u not doing charity. |
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Jun 17 2022, 11:38 AM
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Takut kaki busuk race je .....
Risk mitigation,not racing |
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Jun 17 2022, 11:38 AM
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agent n00b,.. ask name,.. u know the race liao,..
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Jun 17 2022, 11:40 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 11:45 AM
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Benda private property kan, it is not the owner's right to ask?
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Jun 17 2022, 11:56 AM
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Jun 17 2022, 12:07 PM
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Sorry to say, I also same. Do hostel rent is by race.
If not susahlah |
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Jun 17 2022, 12:07 PM
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Jun 17 2022, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Jun 17 2022, 11:38 AM) If u experienced renting to drug maker... Not trafficker. U know how important to filter out. rent to drug maker, you are very near to gallows. damn the worst nightmare of landlordBe cbai to others, be good to yrself, u not doing charity. but still, here got people saying druglord baik orangnya |
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Jun 17 2022, 12:19 PM
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Whats wrong since its my property.
Even the country decides which lot i can or cannot buy. |
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Jun 17 2022, 12:19 PM
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Jun 17 2022, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(very polite @ Jun 17 2022, 09:02 AM) indians are the only race that tak dapat racist with others in malaysia. instead, they racist within own community based on caste and skin colour.instead, they racist within own community based on caste and skin colour. oh, and luckily got bangla and Nepal people also. How so? How to be a racist within same race? Micro racist? |
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Jun 17 2022, 12:32 PM
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it is better to be clear than sorry later...
many case now one saying to stay and coming to stay is different persons.. but based on distress/evictions records... there seems to be polarization of group of ppl/race and etc.. which indicate not a healthy grouping and biasness... Accord |
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Jun 17 2022, 12:33 PM
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Jun 17 2022, 12:34 PM
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Jun 17 2022, 12:36 PM
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Hai ya, this kind of thread ular90 opened so many times
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Jun 17 2022, 12:40 PM
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it is so shame in 2022 people ask for race also can not answer.... later when isi borang only write name other info. no need. simple thing also tak boleh and then want to make hu ha bagitau satu dunia.
Bonus comment - later when isi borang about gender also tak mau isi...duh |
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Jun 17 2022, 12:40 PM
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This is girl that went viral because she alleged her fuck buddy gave her STD? I remember she apparently even had an agreement with her FWB that he musn't bang other girls.
She claimed that because he broke that agreement, he got STD and transferred it to her. also, old thread https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4825556 This post has been edited by trojandude: Jun 17 2022, 01:20 PM |
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Jun 17 2022, 12:42 PM
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rent house in putrajaya.
only 1 race yang tanya. |
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Jun 17 2022, 12:44 PM
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willing buyer willing seller..no need complain
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Jun 17 2022, 12:45 PM
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Jun 17 2022, 12:55 PM
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Whats wrong since its my property.
Even the country decides which lot i can or cannot buy. |
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Jun 17 2022, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Jun 17 2022, 10:25 AM) Not color but race. Behavior is to some extend inherited, either by genetic, or culture. 😌 Then it should be his occupation, or his financial records, or his education, or any criminal history.I used to not support this kind of racist policy, until I had an I****n tenant who refused to move out although not paying rent. 🥲 Should we profile people based on race? No. But I wouldn't take any risk. 😌 Just because he is whatever race doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. If you wanna do your due diligence, do it properly. Being lazy and racist doesn't do shit. Typical Malaysians Lord Tiki Mick liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Jun 17 2022, 09:31 AM) This has nothing to do with bumi rights or preferential treatment.She was not denied a job, or a position or a place in a university. She was denied a place to live based on skin color. Very matured of you to label as snowflake. |
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Jun 17 2022, 01:01 PM
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Guess this pemudi don't have an IC... I last recall IC passport or whatever heck to do with gov also asked for race. Maybe he just landed to Malaysia
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Jun 17 2022, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:00 PM) This has nothing to do with bumi rights or preferential treatment. Snowflake is sensitive af.She was not denied a job, or a position or a place in a university. She was denied a place to live based on skin color. Very matured of you to label as snowflake. Racial segregation mindsets stems from the government itself over the 60+ years of ruling and racial biased policies, it naturally carries over to Malaysia's sociology. You are just being self righteous here though. |
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jun 17 2022, 12:40 PM) This is girl that went viral because she alleged her fuck buddy gave her STD? I remember she apparently even had an agreement with her FWB that he musn't bang other girls. Yep I remember this also. I bet he regretted sticking it in her cuz now his name taintedShe claimed that because he broke that agreement, he got STD and transferred it to her. |
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:00 PM) Then it should be his occupation, or his financial records, or his education, or any criminal history. A 7-11 worker doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant.Just because he is whatever race doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. If you wanna do your due diligence, do it properly. Being lazy and racist doesn't do shit. Typical Malaysians A bankrupt person doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. A person without tertiary education doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. A person with criminal history doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. Stop stop being lazy and profiling others. Typical Malaysian. |
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Jun 17 2022, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:01 PM) Guess this pemudi don't have an IC... I last recall IC passport or whatever heck to do with gov also asked for race. Maybe he just landed to Malaysia Filling up race in a government form or IC has no implications to what you can wear, where you can live or what you can eat.Being denied a home based on skin color is akin to being denied one of the basic human rights (food, shelter and clothing). |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:09 PM) Filling up race in a government form or IC has no implications to what you can wear, where you can live or what you can eat. Then why do you need the race information at the first place. And race does have implication in this country under the government jurisdiction, unless Bumiputera rights, NEP, asnb, uni quota etc is some new vocab to you.Being denied a home based on skin color is akin to being denied one of the basic human rights (food, shelter and clothing). Can a non bumi buy malay reserve land or bumi freehold property or not |
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Actually all this agent just not being smart la.. Just ask them to give Name and IC/ID will do... Say you want to do background check like ctos etc. Benda simple kan
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Jun 17 2022, 01:14 PM
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Jun 17 2022, 01:15 PM
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just ask for tenant pic....no need to ask race
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Jun 17 2022, 01:17 PM
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Jun 17 2022, 01:19 PM
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My unit only rent out to white expatriate only. Hope no trouble.
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Jun 17 2022, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 17 2022, 08:22 AM) Except they are different.Public vs private. The former doesn’t have any right to be racist while the latter has all the rights to choose since the owner isn’t accountable to anyone except to himself and his pocket. c64 liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:05 PM) Snowflake is sensitive af. Its easy to say when you dont have to feel the profiling and prejudice. Its already hard as it is with all other kinds of profiling and stereotypes. So yea some say move on and find other places. But believe it or nott, its almost a 95% chance of rejection when you are labelled as that "race"Racial segregation mindsets stems from the government itself over the 60+ years of ruling and racial biased policies, it naturally carries over to Malaysia's sociology. You are just being self righteous here though. Dont want to sit next to certain race on the LRT? no problem. Locking car doors when certain race walk past? no problem. Some races say its wrong to hire based on language capabilities. Another race complains that gov job intakes and varsity quotas are biased. But denying someone a place to live which is a basic human right? = some malaysians call it "risk management". So blaming the gov for the racism, you got no otak to distinguish what's right from wrong is it? I hope you see the irony and hypocrisy. |
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We do it because the others/they did it too/first
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:20 PM) Its easy to say when you dont have to feel the profiling and prejudice. Its already hard as it is with all other kinds of profiling and stereotypes. So yea some say move on and find other places. But believe it or nott, its almost a 95% chance of rejection when you are labelled as that "race" We nons have been discriminated for generations. Don't be stobeli.Dont want to sit next to certain race on the LRT? no problem. Locking car doors when certain race walk past? no problem. Some races say its wrong to hire based on language capabilities. Another race complains that gov job intakes and varsity quotas are biased. But denying someone a place to live which is a basic human right? = some malaysians call it "risk management". So blaming the gov for the racism, you got no otak to distinguish what's right from wrong is it? I hope you see the irony and hypocrisy. |
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Jun 17 2022, 01:22 PM
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Jun 17 2022, 01:24 PM
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Top speed cruising already this thread.
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Jun 17 2022, 01:25 PM
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Why don't want rent to indian?
I rented my house to indian few times, so far all good experience. But i remember one of them kind of begging for me to rent my house to him. It's like he was already in losing position before the negotiation begins. Maybe he had bad experience in renting previously. I also used chinese agent previously. i never set race as requirement but every time she got potential indian tenant for viewing she'll say to me "but they are indian, hope you don't mind" something like that This post has been edited by MADReaLJL: Jun 17 2022, 01:34 PM |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:20 PM) Its easy to say when you dont have to feel the profiling and prejudice. Its already hard as it is with all other kinds of profiling and stereotypes. So yea some say move on and find other places. But believe it or nott, its almost a 95% chance of rejection when you are labelled as that "race" The logic here reminds me alot of the recent theft logging issue where the deputy MB of Kelantan says the government should never be blamed.Dont want to sit next to certain race on the LRT? no problem. Locking car doors when certain race walk past? no problem. Some races say its wrong to hire based on language capabilities. Another race complains that gov job intakes and varsity quotas are biased. But denying someone a place to live which is a basic human right? = some malaysians call it "risk management". So blaming the gov for the racism, you got no otak to distinguish what's right from wrong is it? I hope you see the irony and hypocrisy. |
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When election time we fight for all the nons!
In reality, "eh why u date *insert race* girl ah? This is wrong, date your own kind." "Sorry the owner doesnt want to rent it out to you." "Sorry you are still not qualified for the job even though you can speak the language required fluently" Covert racism at its best.. |
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Jun 17 2022, 01:29 PM
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kecian india. Nobody want to rent house to them:(
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:12 PM) Then why do you need the race information at the first place. And race does have implication in this country under the government jurisdiction, unless Bumiputera rights, NEP, asnb, uni quota etc is some new vocab to you. You dont get it do you. Why do you want something that is exclusive to help one race? Can a non bumi buy malay reserve land or bumi freehold property or not If you cant buy bumi lot, no problem, buy some other place. Want good investment returns like ASB? no problem, invest some other funds. You were not denied the opportunity to make a living or invest via other avenues. This i agree that such race based policies has been indoctrinated from the very formation of our country, agreed by all races and their leaders back then, heck its even in the constitution. So why complain now? To put it bluntly the difference is, those quotas and policies are "add ons" for certain race. The other minorities were not denied the basics, or at least the freedom to make a living, gain an education or work in a desired profession. On the other hand, the minority race is being denied a place to live. When there is a 90-95% rejection rate simply because you do not fit the preferred tenant skin color, where do you go from there? Bothammer liked this post
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:20 PM) Its easy to say when you dont have to feel the profiling and prejudice. Its already hard as it is with all other kinds of profiling and stereotypes. So yea some say move on and find other places. But believe it or nott, its almost a 95% chance of rejection when you are labelled as that "race" Yes, i am one of whom who called it risk management & mitigation.Dont want to sit next to certain race on the LRT? no problem. Locking car doors when certain race walk past? no problem. Some races say its wrong to hire based on language capabilities. Another race complains that gov job intakes and varsity quotas are biased. But denying someone a place to live which is a basic human right? = some malaysians call it "risk management". So blaming the gov for the racism, you got no otak to distinguish what's right from wrong is it? I hope you see the irony and hypocrisy. In your learned opinion, otherwise what it should be called then? After one landlord has paid the price and the lessons, hassle evicting from non payments, complains from neighbours, property damages, unlawful use of premise, ran away tenants NOT only once, twice but thrice from indian tenants (no need to hide, i say in out, indian tenants) Secondly, nobody is denying anybodys' basic human right here This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 17 2022, 01:43 PM |
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QUOTE(bugipunch @ Jun 17 2022, 01:29 PM) i just rented to an indian new family,.. young couples with 3 kids,.. husband work as long distance lorry driver,.. then,..i went there to sign agreement after they move in,.. no furnitures ,.. even stove also put on the floor,...crossing my fingers no delay on rental,.. and no damage to property,.. |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:34 PM) You already contradicted yourself in the above regarding governmental racial policies indoctrination. I think it is your logic that is flawed right now arguing so strongly about something that you end up easily contradict yourself moments after. |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:31 PM) You dont get it do you. Why do you want something that is exclusive to help one race? You write so long and yet did not notice the government does practice rase based policy which contradict with your first reply? If you cant buy bumi lot, no problem, buy some other place. Want good investment returns like ASB? no problem, invest some other funds. You were not denied the opportunity to make a living or invest via other avenues. This i agree that such race based policies has been indoctrinated from the very formation of our country, agreed by all races and their leaders back then, heck its even in the constitution. So why complain now? To put it bluntly the difference is, those quotas and policies are "add ons" for certain race. The other minorities were not denied the basics, or at least the freedom to make a living, gain an education or work in a desired profession. On the other hand, the minority race is being denied a place to live. When there is a 90-95% rejection rate simply because you do not fit the preferred tenant skin color, where do you go from there? Stop sugar coating, a discrimination is a discrimination (period) On this analogy, the lady can rent other houses too, she has option to go. Or you saying we have written constitution I race cannot rent from other? It is preferential in this case over the government made it in written. |
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Jun 17 2022, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 17 2022, 01:38 PM) Yes, i am one of whom who called it risk management & mitigation. I call it racism. Simply because every indian is painted with the same brush. In your opinion, otherwise what it should be called then? After one landlord has paid the price and the lessons, hassle evicting from non payment, complains from neighbours, property damages, unlawful use of premise, ran away tenants NOT only once, twice but thrice from indian tenants (no need to hide, i say in out, indian tenants) Secondly, nobody is denying anybodys' basic human right here Secondly, nobody is denying anybodys' basic human right here > If a chinese is denied a bumi lot, no problem find a chinese landlord. If a chinese is denied a gov job, no problem, work in a chinese company. Likewise for malays. However due to being a much smaller minority and population, indians dont really have options. |
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 17 2022, 01:08 PM) A 7-11 worker doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. A blue collar construction worker with history of frequent moves between states wouldn't really care if he trashed the place he lives inA bankrupt person doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. A person without tertiary education doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. A person with criminal history doesn't mean he will end up a shit tenant. Stop stop being lazy and profiling others. Typical Malaysian. A bankrupt person for poor financial decisions with no fixed income will likely have problem paying rent in time A person with incomplete secondary education yet choosing to rent in a affluent part of the city? Without going into other aspect, already raised red flags Specially in Malaysia, a person with records for robbery, breaking and entering, just raised red flags. And all of these can be of any race Do your due diligence. Dont be a lazy racist. Typical Malaysians |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 10:40 AM) i think that 2 house is damn suay, the rest is ok. the burnt house until now haven't rented out. the lari ah long one apparently owed 3 months rent + utilities bill, consider him lucky because house didnt get burn down. but the point is, it is this kind of experience that make you think twice about renting it out. QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 17 2022, 10:41 AM) we also scared, everytime shits happen, then all neighbour come out chit chat. |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 01:38 PM) i just rented to an indian new family,.. young couples with 3 kids,.. husband work as long distance lorry driver,.. then,..i went there to sign agreement after they move in,.. no furnitures ,.. even stove also put on the floor,... Tell us about it few months latercrossing my fingers no delay on rental,.. and no damage to property,.. |
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QUOTE(very polite @ Jun 17 2022, 08:24 AM) owner has the right to be racist This is like saying serial killers has the right to killim ok with that...as long as you dont hide the fact that you are racist. as long as you dont hide the fact you are a serial killer Being forthcoming about your traits does not give you the license to be an assh*le |
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:43 PM) You write so long and yet did not notice the government does practice rase based policy which contradict with your first reply? You are gravely wrong about this. The lady would have exhausted her options and resulting twitter post out of frustration, i know because i was once in the exact situation some years ago. Being a fresh grad coming out of a uni where all races lived, studied and had fun together, suddenly being told to get lost because you and i are not same anymore. Yes reality is harsh and i learned it the hard way.Stop sugar coating, a discrimination is a discrimination (period) On this analogy, the lady can rent other houses too, she has option to go. Or you saying we have written constitution I race cannot rent from other? It is preferential in this case over the government made it in written. I am grateful though i have had really nice chinese landlords (quite literally 1 in 20 ?) who looked past race and wanted some form of security (i.e. higher deposits, proof of employment < this is fair IMHO) Like i said, once would never understand the prejudice and profiling that minorities go through. Being denied a place to stay is completely not the same as being denied other things such as jobs/positions/investments. Discrimination is discrimination, but some discrimination is worse than others. This post has been edited by juvaan: Jun 17 2022, 01:56 PM |
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Jun 17 2022, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:48 PM) i think that 2 house is damn suay, the rest is ok. your neighborhood got no GnG kah? seems like everyone can enter the areathe burnt house until now haven't rented out. the lari ah long one apparently owed 3 months rent + utilities bill, consider him lucky because house didnt get burn down. but the point is, it is this kind of experience that make you think twice about renting it out. we also scared, everytime shits happen, then all neighbour come out chit chat. |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:54 PM) You are gravely wrong about this. The lady would have exhausted her options and resulting twitter post out of frustration, i know because i was once in the exact situation some years ago. Being a fresh grad coming out of a uni where all races lived, studied and had fun together, suddenly being told to get lost because you and i are not same anymore. Yes reality is harsh and i learned it the hard way. It really depends on your current position and status in life. The issue you are rambling about sounds more to lack of money which automatically limits your option of choices no matter your race.I am grateful though i have had really nice chinese landlords (quite literally 1 in 20 ?) who looked past race and wanted some form of security (i.e. higher deposits, proof of employment < this is fair IMHO) Like i said, once would never understand the prejudice and profiling that minorities go through. Being denied a place to stay is completely not the same as being denied other things such as jobs/positions/investments. Discrimination is discrimination, but some discrimination is worse than others. |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 10:13 AM) topkek agent miss yap get free exposure lel miss yap butthurt already016-3326802 https://www.facebook.com/Findproperty2u-1782778682007174/ ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jun 17 2022, 01:49 PM) hope no problem,.. my profile analyse is this,... for small family, factor of irresponsibility risk is lower,... if bunch of bachelors or for workers,.. confirm reject,.. .2ndly,.. long distance lorry driver salary actually quite high,.. 1k monthly shouldn't be a problem,.. those who don't want to review their job,.. also i will reject,.. 3rdly,.. the area full with indian enquiries,.. not many chinese (chinese mostly asking for sales not rental),.. and Raya season,.. not many malay enquiries also,.. so hope this one goes well,.. if not then got new ban list in my profiling selection,.. |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:54 PM) You are gravely wrong about this. The lady would have exhausted her options and resulting twitter post out of frustration, i know because i was once in the exact situation some years ago. Being a fresh grad coming out of a uni where all races lived, studied and had fun together, suddenly being told to get lost because you and i are not same anymore. Yes reality is harsh and i learned it the hard way. Since you appear to be anti-discrimination based on what you write, why do you think it's fair to ask for higher deposits just because you're from certain race? Aren't you contradicting yourself. I am grateful though i have had really nice chinese landlords (quite literally 1 in 20 ?) who looked past race and wanted some form of security (i.e. higher deposits, proof of employment < this is fair IMHO) Like i said, once would never understand the prejudice and profiling that minorities go through. Being denied a place to stay is completely not the same as being denied other things such as jobs/positions/investments. Discrimination is discrimination, but some discrimination is worse than others. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:03 PM) Since you appear to be anti-discrimination based on what you write, why do you think it's fair to ask for higher deposits just because you're from certain race? Aren't you contradicting yourself. Cute right? You the third person here already in short time span today to immediately see how contradicting this person is. lol. |
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:47 PM) A blue collar construction worker with history of frequent moves between states wouldn't really care if he trashed the place he lives in See, we are exactly the same, profiling others based on possibilities that the person may cause trouble/not pay on time. A bankrupt person for poor financial decisions with no fixed income will likely have problem paying rent in time A person with incomplete secondary education yet choosing to rent in a affluent part of the city? Without going into other aspect, already raised red flags Specially in Malaysia, a person with records for robbery, breaking and entering, just raised red flags. And all of these can be of any race Do your due diligence. Dont be a lazy racist. Typical Malaysians Any race may be a bad tenant, but one particular race is more likely than the others. https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...nds-pdrm-282448 QUOTE Three important data derived from the study on this issue in particular concludes that: 1) 72% of gang members indentified in Malaysia are Indians. 2) A total of 28,926 Indians identified of being gang members till date. 3) The Indian Community has the highest rate of gangsterism in Malaysia. |
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Not this shit again.
The twitter handler said that she is human rights law, so she should know better about this? Its the owner rights to choose which race they want to rent it out, the property agent is just the messenger and the website is just a platform. If like this then, how property agent going to survive, where to post the property to sell/rent? Now she poster her conversation with the agent which shows the agent mobile number in twitter, can the agent sue her for this since the agent being harrass by people due to her action? |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:03 PM) Since you appear to be anti-discrimination based on what you write, why do you think it's fair to ask for higher deposits just because you're from certain race? Aren't you contradicting yourself. what can he do lah. either do it or find another house, which will be time consuming .most likely from 20 calls only 1-2 agents agree to go for site visit |
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its not shocking.
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QUOTE(theguywhowaited @ Jun 17 2022, 02:08 PM) Not this shit again. some fellas are just clout chaser one lahThe twitter handler said that she is human rights law, so she should know better about this? Its the owner rights to choose which race they want to rent it out, the property agent is just the messenger and the website is just a platform. If like this then, how property agent going to survive, where to post the property to sell/rent? Now she poster her conversation with the agent which shows the agent mobile number in twitter, can the agent sue her for this since the agent being harrass by people due to her action? this, loyars, activists, feminazis, LBGTQ fellas, those are best to left alone in their own universe This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 17 2022, 02:13 PM |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:09 PM) Filling up race in a government form or IC has no implications to what you can wear, where you can live or what you can eat. What kind of sense of entitlement is this lmao.Being denied a home based on skin color is akin to being denied one of the basic human rights (food, shelter and clothing). Nobody owes you anything, certainly not the owner who has to bear all the risks so it’s only right for them to not take any chance and filter to the max. Blaming the owner for choosing the best investment even though you are less wanted/attractive as an investment to the said owner is like, in a sense, asking for preferential treatment. It’s a dog eat dog world nowadays so you can’t expect people to readily help you, much less jeopardising themselves just to help you. All this talk about denying someone the “essentials or basic human rights” only makes sense when the owner owes that someone a duty, which obviously he/she doesn’t because he/she is not the government. You can’t be discussing the difference in gravity between essentials and non-essentials when you have no right to expect such in the first place. That’s very presumptuous of you. If anything you should be blaming your peers for creating that kind of perception. Or better yet, ask why the government hasn’t done anything to tackle this issue because ultimately the government is the one responsible for the welfare of the people, not the common people. The best short term solution is to try harder. Treat it as playing a game in hard mode. And no, other races do not get to choose either. It is what it is. Also doesn’t help when your teammates intentionally make the game harder by feeding themselves to the boss. The force of market will fix this anyway. When there is a lack of “preferred” tenants in the market, those owners will naturally lower down their expectations. |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 01:59 PM) Yes, the place that I stay now no GnG. We preferred it that way imho. No need pay additional fee, less hassle in and out.If you get neighbour from hell, what also cannot help. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Wow got two types of Indian.. they must be teaching their kids these stuff huh
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:54 PM) You are gravely wrong about this. The lady would have exhausted her options and resulting twitter post out of frustration, i know because i was once in the exact situation some years ago. Being a fresh grad coming out of a uni where all races lived, studied and had fun together, suddenly being told to get lost because you and i are not same anymore. Yes reality is harsh and i learned it the hard way. You are mixing things, putting in your experience and sentimental values, and derailed. I thought my original post was government is also asking for race and you say other wise. Sometimes we need to stay around the topic to discuss, writing long to no where does not help. I am grateful though i have had really nice chinese landlords (quite literally 1 in 20 ?) who looked past race and wanted some form of security (i.e. higher deposits, proof of employment < this is fair IMHO) Like i said, once would never understand the prejudice and profiling that minorities go through. Being denied a place to stay is completely not the same as being denied other things such as jobs/positions/investments. Discrimination is discrimination, but some discrimination is worse than others. That will be funny to say Non in Malaysia does not understand bias and prejudice, isn't it? Ohya, you mention about proof of employment is fair. What if someone got rejected because of shady employment? It seems like people are generally OK to be bias on anything else except race? Not going to reply further as I wouldn't able to imagine where the topic will goes next. |
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tons and tons of property rental ads on mudah
terang2 write melayu or muslim melayu only(on title) though i've yet to see chinese only until today |
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QUOTE(kens88` @ Jun 17 2022, 08:20 AM) Of course owner la. There's a lot of owner who pick race. What for agent wanna do this? There's nothing for them. As a matter of fact, agents normally discourage this practice, as it makes finding tenant harder.This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Jun 17 2022, 02:23 PM |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 02:09 PM) what can he do lah. either do it or find another house, which will be time consuming . True but I am pointing out is why he thinks it's not right to refuse to rent to him because of his race, but it's ok to make him pay higher deposit because of his race. Aren't both discriminatory practices?most likely from 20 calls only 1-2 agents agree to go for site visit |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:45 PM) I call it racism. Simply because every indian is painted with the same brush. Why not you take the lead to unpaint the old trail (indian tenancy) into a rosy tenancy landscape here with a new brush, unless you are saying > there is nothing (on indian tenancy trail) to undo here.Secondly, nobody is denying anybodys' basic human right here > If a chinese is denied a bumi lot, no problem find a chinese landlord. If a chinese is denied a gov job, no problem, work in a chinese company. Likewise for malays. However due to being a much smaller minority and population, indians dont really have options. There must be a reason why a same trail that is too deeply felt by too many in the tenancy scene here. What's your say? On your last para, just adopt and adapt (AAA) This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 17 2022, 02:49 PM Mirage64 liked this post
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Should also be shocked house price is according to race.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:30 PM) True but I am pointing out is why he thinks it's not right to refuse to rent to him because of his race, but it's ok to make him pay higher deposit because of his race. Aren't both discriminatory practices? deposit can be refund if no damage,.. how is higher deposit not fair ??... if tenants got few airconds,.. i will ask for 1 month utility deposit instead of 1/2 month,... is that discrimination ???... for commercial some owner even ask for higher deposits if the tenant doing some higher risk business,.. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:30 PM) True but I am pointing out is why he thinks it's not right to refuse to rent to him because of his race, but it's ok to make him pay higher deposit because of his race. Aren't both discriminatory practices? QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:54 PM) |
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 17 2022, 02:08 PM) See, we are exactly the same, profiling others based on possibilities that the person may cause trouble/not pay on time. You think an Indian doctor is likely to be involved in a gang?Any race may be a bad tenant, but one particular race is more likely than the others. https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...nds-pdrm-282448 Any person, can be a law abiding citizen, or a criminal. Again, it is not the race. Konon want to know who your tenant but tengok kulit je dah cukup? Ptuih |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 02:37 PM) deposit can be refund if no damage,.. how is higher deposit not fair ??... if tenants got few airconds,.. i will ask for 1 month utility deposit instead of 1/2 month,... is that discrimination ???... for commercial some owner even ask for higher deposits if the tenant doing some higher risk business,.. Dey, read the thing in its context. Fair as in he thinks it's fair to charge him higher deposits because of his race, but not fair if LL doesn't want to rent to him because of his race. I'm still waiting for his clarification. |
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This is why Malaysia would continue backwards.
Because the people follows the government's action rather than changing it. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:42 PM) Dey, read the thing in its context. Fair as in he thinks it's fair to charge him higher deposits because of his race, but not fair if LL doesn't want to rent to him because of his race. higher risk,.. higher deposit,.. not that he rejecting outright,.. he's giving him chance for rental with no disadvantage for tenant but more security to the owner,.. deposit is full refundable,..he's giving chance to the tenants ,... how izit discrimination ??I'm still waiting for his clarification. juvaan liked this post
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jun 17 2022, 02:19 PM) You are mixing things, putting in your experience and sentimental values, and derailed. I thought my original post was government is also asking for race and you say other wise. Sometimes we need to stay around the topic to discuss, writing long to no where does not help. A shady employment means inconsistent income, not to mention questionable source of the income where police might be involved, complicating the tenancy.That will be funny to say Non in Malaysia does not understand bias and prejudice, isn't it? Ohya, you mention about proof of employment is fair. What if someone got rejected because of shady employment? It seems like people are generally OK to be bias on anything else except race? Not going to reply further as I wouldn't able to imagine where the topic will goes next. That, is a valid reason. Discriminating a person just because he was born into a race, without going further details into other aspects like his education, financial, occupation background, is just plain bigotry. Seriously, a person with no consistent income is likely to have a problem paying rent. A person being indian/malay/chinese can automatigically have similar problem? |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 02:46 PM) higher risk,.. higher deposit,.. not that he rejecting outright,.. he's giving him chance for rental with no disadvantage for tenant but more security to the owner,.. deposit is full refundable,..he's giving chance to the tenants ,... how izit discrimination ?? Why did you say he poses a higher risk? Isn't this discrimination? |
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 17 2022, 02:40 PM) You think an Indian doctor is likely to be involved in a gang? Oh, Indian doctor is welcomed to be my tenantAny person, can be a law abiding citizen, or a criminal. Again, it is not the race. Konon want to know who your tenant but tengok kulit je dah cukup? Ptuih I prefer Indian doctors more than Chinese or Malay doctors, call me racist QUOTE(kevbacon @ Jun 17 2022, 02:49 PM) Of course la, no mandi pagi and no cuci buntut. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:47 PM) how do measure risk ??... if not past experience ??...is this statistic or discriminations ??,.. which one higher risk ?? 10 indian,.. 5 troublesome,.. 10 malay,... 3 troublesome,... 10 chinese,.. 2 troublesome.. |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 02:54 PM) rental to doctor vs rental to retail cashier,.. is that a discrimination ??... which one higher risk ?? Dey, stop putar halim. We were talking about how this fella thinks it's discriminatory to refuse to rent to him because of his race, and why he thinks that it is fair to charge him higher deposits because of his race. You replied it's not discriminatory because of his higher risk. So I asked whether this is not discrimination because you risk profile people based on race. Since when is it about occupation?? |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 02:54 PM) rental to doctor vs rental to retail cashier,.. is that a discrimination ??... which one higher risk ?? Well to be technical it is status / position in life discrimination. Discriminination in a nutshell means unfair, newflash the world isn't fair ever since its conception. |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 02:54 PM) rental to doctor vs rental to retail cashier,.. is that a discrimination ??... which one higher risk ?? And that comes from merit (arguably)And also safe to imply comes with a better upbringing, better behaviour, etc. I mean, you can safely and appropriately assume how ones behave from his job. But you can't do that just from his race. As mentioned, any race can be a doctor or a gangster. |
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 17 2022, 02:54 PM) Oh, Indian doctor is welcomed to be my tenant the no cuci buntut one i cannot brain. Really enough ah just use tissue? seems really unhygienic I prefer Indian doctors more than Chinese or Malay doctors, call me racist Of course la, no mandi pagi and no cuci buntut. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:42 PM) Dey, read the thing in its context. Fair as in he thinks it's fair to charge him higher deposits because of his race, but not fair if LL doesn't want to rent to him because of his race. I think what he meant for the benefit of doubt, he is willing to double down his deposits, macam giving character security bond la.I'm still waiting for his clarification. In a way, he is telling the landlord, i carry himself high (different from what you may perceived me off), over the roof in principle honoring the tenancy A-Z T&C thus no worries on my part in securing the return of the 2 months deposits paid by me to you (landlord). I am different from the trails. This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 17 2022, 03:08 PM Mirage64 liked this post
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 17 2022, 03:05 PM) I think what he meant for the benefit of doubt, he is willing to double down his deposits, macam giving character security bond la. What if the LL insisted on higher deposit just because he is of certain race, instead of him offering it first?In a way, he is telling the landlord, i carry himself high (different from what you may perceived me off) , over the roof in principle of honoring the tenancy A-Z thus no worries on my part in securing the return of the 2 months deposits paid by me to you (landlord). I am different from the trails. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:59 PM) Dey, stop putar halim. why kelantanese more tuai cases than other state ???... why so many nigerian people involved in scam even famous Nigerian Prince scam was named after them ????.... why malay mudah keliru on halal and haram ???.... aint that profiling by race too ???...We were talking about how this fella thinks it's discriminatory to refuse to rent to him because of his race, and why he thinks that it is fair to charge him higher deposits because of his race. You replied it's not discriminatory because of his higher risk. So I asked whether this is not discrimination because you risk profile people based on race. Since when is it about occupation?? |
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 03:08 PM) why kelantanese more tuai cases than other state ???... why so many nigerian people involved in scam even famous Nigerian Prince scam was named after them ????.... why malay mudah keliru on halal and haram ???.... aint that profiling by race too ???... First you brought up occupation which is unrelated to my question. Then you brought up tuai and Kelantan, which is also unrelated to my question.Why can't you answer straight to the point instead of twisting and turning around? |
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kononnya we wants to sign icerd to be fair to all race and anti discrimination. kononnya lah.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 03:09 PM) First you brought up occupation which is unrelated to my question. Then you brought up tuai and Kelantan, which is also unrelated to my question. how izit not relevant,.. it's about profiling,... if occupation don't relate to race in any way,.. then why most civil servant are malay ??.... why so klang so many indian gangster ??.. why cheras so many chinese gangster ??...why most indian parents want their children to be doctor or engineer ??..... why hard labor is bangla ??... it's all known from statistic profiling,.. u go tell police don't do profiling when catch criminal,...Why can't you answer straight to the point instead of twisting and turning around? |
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 17 2022, 03:22 PM) Of course it's more hygienic using water + tissue. But using tissue alone is not that bad la, most of the world population are doing that anyway. use water also lah. i hope nowadays they started using already. the bidet is your friend. poweredbydiscuz liked this post
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 03:08 PM) why kelantanese more tuai cases than other state ???... why so many nigerian people involved in scam even famous Nigerian Prince scam was named after them ????.... why malay mudah keliru on halal and haram ???.... aint that profiling by race too ???... why call it macau scam when ppl doing it from Myanmar? |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:30 PM) True but I am pointing out is why he thinks it's not right to refuse to rent to him because of his race, but it's ok to make him pay higher deposit because of his race. Aren't both discriminatory practices? he bising bising due to principle , might be as well move to his parents house backthe world is not fair. |
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i die die dun wan rent to ppl i tak sukak, u blow meh.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 03:22 PM) how izit not relevant,.. it's about profiling,... if occupation don't relate to race in any way,.. then why most civil servant are malay ??.... why so klang so many indian gangster ??.. why cheras so many chinese gangster ??...why most indian parents want their children to be doctor or engineer ??..... why hard labor is bangla ??... it's all known from statistic profiling,.. u go tell police don't do profiling when catch criminal,... So you agree it's discrimination to ask for higher deposits just because he is from certain race, or you do not agree it's discrimination? |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 03:40 PM) ![]() scary man these days any women with pierce on the nose is a no-no I tell you metoo or meshit whatsoever sooner or later this kind of woman surely wrech havoc around their surroundings one These days macam giveaway to a she/her sjw JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Jun 17 2022, 02:02 PM) It really depends on your current position and status in life. The issue you are rambling about sounds more to lack of money which automatically limits your option of choices no matter your race. Lack of money or not, isnt that an indication of unequal playing field? Privilege due to skin color? And we are not talking about NEP/Quota/Jobs/Bumi perks. We are talking about a place to live. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 03:46 PM) So you agree it's discrimination to ask for higher deposits just because he is from certain race, or you do not agree it's discrimination? nope,.. i don't agree profiling is discrimination,.. or risk judgement base on race is discrimination,... malay had higher risk of high blood sugar,.... is that discriminations ???... insurance company is discriminative when they charge higher premium on higher risk people ?? juvaan liked this post
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:03 PM) Since you appear to be anti-discrimination based on what you write, why do you think it's fair to ask for higher deposits just because you're from certain race? Aren't you contradicting yourself. I dont think so. A higher deposit and proper background check automatically filters out the problematic ones, and the same logic applies to all races. So i dont see how it is discriminatory I dont disagree that higher tendency of trouble makers from certain race, and this would be an appropriate method to manage risk. As another forumer pointed out, the same practice applies to the insurance and banking industry. Customer must be willing to pay for the service if they really want it. No one complains about that. But outright deny a service based on skin color? This post has been edited by juvaan: Jun 17 2022, 03:57 PM |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 03:40 PM) ![]() scary man these days any women with pierce on the nose is a no-no I tell you metoo or meshit whatsoever sooner or later this kind of woman surely wrech havoc around their surroundings one What kind of who bragged about sleeping with 20+ people? Without protection summore. Birds of feather, flock together. |
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Rent to students also need to see, regardless of race, some students can go wild, breaking things. Donno they party, fighting or what
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jun 17 2022, 03:57 PM) Rent to students also need to see, regardless of race, some students can go wild, breaking things. Donno they party, fighting or what for student ,best is signing with their parents,...any problem contact their parents,..most young student never learn about responsibility yet,.. those that sub let room out ,.. is the worse,.. if they can't discipline their house mate,.. |
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QUOTE(Cyberbullies @ Jun 17 2022, 02:13 PM) What kind of sense of entitlement is this lmao. Dont need TLDR, its irrelevant.Nobody owes you anything, certainly not the owner who has to bear all the risks so it’s only right for them to not take any chance and filter to the max. Blaming the owner for choosing the best investment even though you are less wanted/attractive as an investment to the said owner is like, in a sense, asking for preferential treatment. It’s a dog eat dog world nowadays so you can’t expect people to readily help you, much less jeopardising themselves just to help you. All this talk about denying someone the “essentials or basic human rights” only makes sense when the owner owes that someone a duty, which obviously he/she doesn’t because he/she is not the government. You can’t be discussing the difference in gravity between essentials and non-essentials when you have no right to expect such in the first place. That’s very presumptuous of you. If anything you should be blaming your peers for creating that kind of perception. Or better yet, ask why the government hasn’t done anything to tackle this issue because ultimately the government is the one responsible for the welfare of the people, not the common people. The best short term solution is to try harder. Treat it as playing a game in hard mode. And no, other races do not get to choose either. It is what it is. Also doesn’t help when your teammates intentionally make the game harder by feeding themselves to the boss. The force of market will fix this anyway. When there is a lack of “preferred” tenants in the market, those owners will naturally lower down their expectations. Though, you're absolutely right, no one owes me anything. I would not complain if the chicken rice aunty doesnt want to sell me CR. But when it comes to housing, lets just say our options are cut short drastically, and it would take one to be in our shoes to understand the frustration. The frustration is about being denied a service based on skin color - this is called racism. Taking certain steps to shield LL's investment by doing background checks etc - this is called Risk Mitigation And just so you know, i never denied my "peers" can be problematic, but its wrong to paint all of us the same. And about the governemnt, my assumption we are such a minority that the gov doesnt warrant its a serious enough issue just because there are so few of us. Like 7%? |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 03:40 PM) ![]() scary man these days any women with pierce on the nose is a no-no I tell you metoo or meshit whatsoever sooner or later this kind of woman surely wrech havoc around their surroundings one QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 03:44 PM) dam crazy wei. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Jun 17 2022, 02:08 PM) Cute right? You the third person here already in short time span today to immediately see how contradicting this person is. lol. The fact that many think im contradicting myself is a reflection that many dont really understand the frustration and difficulty in reality. It takes one to be in our shoes to know.I dont expect the privileged to understand anyway |
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jun 17 2022, 02:19 PM) You are mixing things, putting in your experience and sentimental values, and derailed. I thought my original post was government is also asking for race and you say other wise. Sometimes we need to stay around the topic to discuss, writing long to no where does not help. My point is simple, racism is not the same type of discrimination as any other forms of discriminations. All those personal experience and sentiments, the root cause is the same - Racism.That will be funny to say Non in Malaysia does not understand bias and prejudice, isn't it? Ohya, you mention about proof of employment is fair. What if someone got rejected because of shady employment? It seems like people are generally OK to be bias on anything else except race? Not going to reply further as I wouldn't able to imagine where the topic will goes next. I would understand why you have your privileged view point. Because privilege presents opportunities and options. We dont choose our skin color when born. Everything else is a choice. Hope that clarifies. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 03:07 PM) What if the LL insisted on higher deposit just because he is of certain race, instead of him offering it first? My reply (me only) what i practice. I profiled (risk mitigation) not to enter into tenancy agreement with indian tenants and surely will NOT demand nor propose, IF you do this that (ie double down deposit), i will consider.My take, LL can choose not dealing at all (rent to one) but cannot impose variations based on race. This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 17 2022, 04:27 PM |
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QUOTE(NautieWabbit @ Jun 17 2022, 04:23 PM) Lastime a friend rent one of the room to indian couple, after a year, this guy fck up the oven and denied it. then some argument happen , the couple want to move out and refuse to pay for the damage of the oven , some more threaten to hurt my friend. Gila betul Woi it can happen to any race la. Your friend problem la no check their occupation, financial status, education level, criminal record is it? Pandan muka Next time ask for double deposit ok This post has been edited by poweredbydiscuz: Jun 17 2022, 04:32 PM imigresen liked this post
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 17 2022, 02:34 PM) Why not you take the lead to unpaint the old trail (indian tenancy) into a rosy tenancy landscape here with a new brush, unless you are saying > there is nothing (on indian tenancy trail) to undo here. Oh yes, i agree there's lots to be done and i'm doing my every bit. And a fun fact, i'm actually from ICHS. The perception is not gonna reverse itself overnight. I am equally disappointed with the bad apples, let it be tenants or even in employment.There must be a reason why a same trail that is too deeply felt by too many in the tenancy scene here. What's your say? On your last para, just adopt and adapt (AAA) Unfortunately, adopt and adapt isnt the same for us as what you think. The playing field is drastically different for us. All im asking is to be given opportunity, and not turned away immediately. And i have mentioned suggestions to help mitigate LL's risks. |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 04:30 PM) Oh yes, i agree there's lots to be done and i'm doing my every bit. And a fun fact, i'm actually from ICHS. The perception is not gonna reverse itself overnight. I am equally disappointed with the bad apples, let it be tenants or even in employment. Going for your MNB & SNB soon? Or already done. All the best. Stay positiveUnfortunately, adopt and adapt isnt the same for us as what you think. The playing field is drastically different for us. All im asking is to be given opportunity, and not turned away immediately. And i have mentioned suggestions to help mitigate LL's risks. This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 17 2022, 06:09 PM |
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:09 PM) Filling up race in a government form or IC has no implications to what you can wear, where you can live or what you can eat. i agree!Being denied a home based on skin color is akin to being denied one of the basic human rights (food, shelter and clothing). fk them!!! dont rent from them!!!! |
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Why tenant don't want to disclose his own race? He malu with his own race?
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 17 2022, 08:56 AM) I had a tenant whom I asked for full name , just told me Aaron. And told me will give full name once meet up.Well basically Aaron can be Aaron lim, Aaron aziz, Aaron Paul subramaniam , or even Aaron Matthew Jones from UK |
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It's really hard to not discriminate when even 'I' themselves warned me against them.
I spoke to 2 close 'I' friend of mine on this discrimination matter before. One told me to avoid at all cost while another said to be extra vigilant and careful. |
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Jun 17 2022, 09:09 PM
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memang kena ambil tahu nanti menyesal tak guna
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Jun 18 2022, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(sijun @ Jun 17 2022, 07:59 PM) It's really hard to not discriminate when even 'I' themselves warned me against them. Yup. During the early years of my property investment journey, i rented to them because i wanted to rent out my place fast without caring who the tenant was. I spoke to 2 close 'I' friend of mine on this discrimination matter before. One told me to avoid at all cost while another said to be extra vigilant and careful. How wrong was i to do that. I had nightmare after nightmare with these ppl. They seem to have drinking parties everyday. Making so much noise till multiple complains were lodged against my unit. And then there is the smoke and smell from their prayer items. The whole house would smell and look like a temple . Then the worst part is they started defaulting on rent. Asked my agent to chase rent from them. They sent their gangsters to harass my agent. In the end, had to get a court order and bailiff came to remove them. Even then, my unit was left in a mess , dirty and alot of spoilt items. That was the first and last i would ever rent to these ppl. This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Jun 18 2022, 07:49 AM |
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QUOTE(very polite @ Jun 17 2022, 12:24 AM) owner has the right to be racist Im also racist. My airbnb whenever i get the booking from some blackies without proper fb fame or linked in profile, i'll straight reject, even if he sounded can afford the studio suite im selling.im ok with that...as long as you dont hide the fact that you are racist. I do profiling alot, since i always believe in got money doesnt mean you got class mentality. Also, if I have the choice, I wont bother renting my suites to the arabics too. Too many sand on them. |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 17 2022, 11:48 PM) Yup. During the early years of my property investment journey, i rented to them because i wanted to rent out my place fast without caring who the tenant was. And then, these people started to make a noise like house owner is very racist, stereotyping, picky, sorta sorta.How wrong was i to do that. I had nightmare after nightmare with these ppl. They seem to have drinking parties everyday. Making so much noise till multiple complains were lodged against my unit. And then there is the smoke and smell from their prayer items. The whole house would smell and look like a temple . Then the worst part is they started defaulting on rent. Asked my agent to chase rent from them. They sent their gangsters to harass my agent. In the end, had to get a court order and bailiff came to remove them. Even then, my unit was left in a mess , dirty and alot of spoilt items. That was the first and last i would ever rent to these ppl. At the end, we give them chance to rent our props again because we kesian sama them. Then, they redo the same thing aka balas dendam and carik balik mukak for their race. Alright. GG.com. Honestly saying, I would rather make a bet with 10 chinese lousy tenants, also wont try giving chance to indian tenants or melayu. Been there, felt that, heard them, and sked of them. Not like angmoh expats is any better, but so far in my experience... Chinese. As long its about money, money it is. |
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Jun 18 2022, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jun 18 2022, 07:58 AM) Im also racist. My airbnb whenever i get the booking from some blackies without proper fb fame or linked in profile, i'll straight reject, even if he sounded can afford the studio suite im selling. Lucky can be racist owner in beautiful Malaysia. If in angmoh country, confirm get sued for discrimination lawsuit already. I do profiling alot, since i always believe in got money doesnt mean you got class mentality. Also, if I have the choice, I wont bother renting my suites to the arabics too. Too many sand on them. After this dont bitch and moan about Gomen polices already since our policies and laws comes from its own racist citizens |
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Jun 18 2022, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jun 18 2022, 07:58 AM) Im also racist. My airbnb whenever i get the booking from some blackies without proper fb fame or linked in profile, i'll straight reject, even if he sounded can afford the studio suite im selling. Never ever rent to africans or arabs. Worst ppl on planet earth especially arabsI do profiling alot, since i always believe in got money doesnt mean you got class mentality. Also, if I have the choice, I wont bother renting my suites to the arabics too. Too many sand on them. |
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Jun 18 2022, 08:47 AM) Lucky can be racist owner in beautiful Malaysia. If in angmoh country, confirm get sued for discrimination lawsuit already. two completely different scenario and yet you can draw a parallel comparison in this. This clearly shows your level of critical thinking.After this dont bitch and moan about Gomen polices already since our policies and laws comes from its own racist citizens if they HAD supported other governments to discriminate their citizens, then yes, your argument is right. In this scenario, if the tenants defaulted on their rental payment, who is going to help the landlords? Are you going to help them pay? If no, you are just another keyboard warrior talking so much about what is ideal without offering help at all. |
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Jun 18 2022, 09:05 AM
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Hmmm it is not uncommon to give an agent a list of conditions because that is what an agent normally would ask.
For example, if you want to rent out a property, an agent would ask what kind of tenant you would prefer or if there are any preference. As a landlord, you would prefer a responsible tenant who is financially stable, would like to stay long term, and also someone you can communicate with. Especially for any major maintenance or issues regarding the property. For example, there is a lot of discrimination against foreign students mainly because they may not be as responsible as their tenure can be short (don't think of long term consequences to their rented house), their financial situation is not clear (late payments or non-payment), possibly unruly (due to peer mentality, culture), etc. Why race is involved is due to cultural differences, racism, ignorance, etc. An Arab student can be as unruly as a student from China for example. A landlord may not wish his house to be rented to a certain race, is mainly because he believes that certain race is more likely to be troublesome or there are conditions that may require them to be cautious to do so. For example, a landlord might be taking his neighbours into consideration. Or the landlord is a racist who believes his house shouldn't be 'stained' by the other race. Is it racist? Yes it is. Is it illegal? No. Ultimately, the landlord has the final say who becomes his tenant, as at the end of the day he would need to deal with the tenant once the papers are signed. So if the landlord doesn't want to deal with a certain race, then it is better to be stated earlier than later. How do we change this in the future? As most of us grown up with less racism in our blood, we will be tasked to teach our children to let go of this mindset. Over a few generations, we will be rid of these type of policies and thoughts. Don't forget, the current parents of this generation was still taught by their parents who just went through Merdeka and are well aware of the systemic racism that still exists in the country. It takes a few generations and hopefully newer generations of government officials will also adopt more inclusive policies to get rid of this mindset. |
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did other country have this problem too?
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 18 2022, 09:05 AM) Super difficult ppl to deal with. Renting my house but acting like they own the place and act like a boss. Arabs are historically rough & rude ppl. Thats why middle east there non stop fighting and war. They follow their archaic law where women have to be slaves to the husband. I once brought an arab couple to view my unit long time ago. The lady wanted to go toilet. This lady then proceeded to ask the husband permission to go toilet in front of me and the agent. We were like WTF, go toilet oso need ask permission. Thats why i wouldnt want to deal with these type of ppl. This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Jun 18 2022, 09:57 AM |
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In reality malay only choose malay
Cina only choose cina sometimes malay India only choose malay/cina |
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jun 18 2022, 09:37 AM) other countries authorities are firm so nobody mess aroundtenant or landlord are equal. you pick up the phone, call the cops and say they are a nonsense and default in rent, cops are already at the door way of your property and will issue eviction notice so on and will advice tenant to move on in a few days if not they will come nabbed them away. tenant wont have a chance hence no worries on racial profiling as authorities are in place to assist the course properly back here...cops say buat report pergi settle sendiri ! ah...so all no assistance from authorities hence landlord have no choice but racing in the future tenant selection. if you guys have a chance to experience rental in singapore you will know how far behind we are , they have a setting to prevent almost all this issue! landlord and tenant are peaceful in many ways. m2c! |
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Here's my experience:
1) poor Malay. Payment on time. 2) rich Malay. Lots of delay. Saying that u won't die if I don't pay. 3) rich Indian. Sometime fast, sometime slow. Cannot predict. All are working people, people with business. Aka not students. Always get property agents ads that say got Koreans interested. Should I avoid? This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Jun 18 2022, 11:12 AM |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2022, 07:48 AM) Yup. During the early years of my property investment journey, i rented to them because i wanted to rent out my place fast without caring who the tenant was. I had in fact, gave the benefit of doubt, first + 2 lastHow wrong was i to do that. I had nightmare after nightmare with these ppl. They seem to have drinking parties everyday. Making so much noise till multiple complains were lodged against my unit. And then there is the smoke and smell from their prayer items. The whole house would smell and look like a temple . Then the worst part is they started defaulting on rent. Asked my agent to chase rent from them. They sent their gangsters to harass my agent. In the end, had to get a court order and bailiff came to remove them. Even then, my unit was left in a mess , dirty and alot of spoilt items. That was the first and last i would ever rent to these ppl. |
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ada ads aku tengok nak keluarga dan gaji tetap
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 18 2022, 11:11 AM) Here's my experience: any foreigner should be 12 months rental up front1) poor Malay. Payment on time. 2) rich Malay. Lots of delay. Saying that u won't die if I don't pay. 3) rich Indian. Sometime fast, sometime slow. Cannot predict. All are working people, people with business. Aka not students. Always get property agents ads that say got Koreans interested. Should I avoid? else....... |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2022, 07:48 AM) Yup. During the early years of my property investment journey, i rented to them because i wanted to rent out my place fast without caring who the tenant was. lucky they don't run drug lab in your house, or pour cement down toilet bowl lolHow wrong was i to do that. I had nightmare after nightmare with these ppl. They seem to have drinking parties everyday. Making so much noise till multiple complains were lodged against my unit. And then there is the smoke and smell from their prayer items. The whole house would smell and look like a temple . Then the worst part is they started defaulting on rent. Asked my agent to chase rent from them. They sent their gangsters to harass my agent. In the end, had to get a court order and bailiff came to remove them. Even then, my unit was left in a mess , dirty and alot of spoilt items. That was the first and last i would ever rent to these ppl. |
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 18 2022, 11:11 AM) Here's my experience: ayam like the malay tenant, no fuss and pay on time. but those are middle or low income one, rich one also not very nice. talk shit a lot when cant pay1) poor Malay. Payment on time. 2) rich Malay. Lots of delay. Saying that u won't die if I don't pay. 3) rich Indian. Sometime fast, sometime slow. Cannot predict. All are working people, people with business. Aka not students. Always get property agents ads that say got Koreans interested. Should I avoid? |
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jun 18 2022, 12:51 AM) Are they even people at the first place?They're sand man. they shower using sand mang... But again, I question ma feeling when their wives use the studio privately. How can my housekeeper still complain everywhere sandy, from bed to bath tub to balcony. I think both men and women also bring sand with them in their luggage. |
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aku dulu tuan rumah cina takde masalah kalau bocor ke apa dia datang repair
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if want to rent to indian, give to educated one, who work in IT
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jun 18 2022, 03:25 PM) My neighbour kena. He rented to an Iranian. And that guy was doing drugs. Whole police team raided the condo. This was an upmarket condo with rental around 3-4k a month. Imagine suddenly got around 20 police come and rush up the lift to the unit.. damn scary |
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 18 2022, 11:11 AM) Here's my experience: I had 2 experiences with koreans tenant. 1) poor Malay. Payment on time. 2) rich Malay. Lots of delay. Saying that u won't die if I don't pay. 3) rich Indian. Sometime fast, sometime slow. Cannot predict. All are working people, people with business. Aka not students. Always get property agents ads that say got Koreans interested. Should I avoid? If all male, hell no. Family yes. No issue on rental payment, just high repair, reinstatement (buy new) cost for electrical appliances So rental rate must be right This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 18 2022, 04:27 PM |
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jun 18 2022, 09:04 AM) two completely different scenario and yet you can draw a parallel comparison in this. This clearly shows your level of critical thinking. How do you know they will default? Let us say you already eliminated income security , ability to pay, etc. You have superpowers that can see into the future? No. You prediction based on what?if they HAD supported other governments to discriminate their citizens, then yes, your argument is right. In this scenario, if the tenants defaulted on their rental payment, who is going to help the landlords? Are you going to help them pay? If no, you are just another keyboard warrior talking so much about what is ideal without offering help at all. If you say race/ethnic group. Congratulations. You are a racist. |
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