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post Jun 14 2022, 09:45 AM, updated 4y ago

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On March 9, LGBTQ employees and allies at Pixar Animation Studios sent a joint statement to Walt Disney Company leadership claiming that Disney executives had actively censored “overtly gay affection” in its feature films. The stunning allegation — made as part of a larger protest over the company’s lack of public response to Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” bill — did not include which Pixar films had weathered the censorship, nor which specific creative decisions were cut or altered.

But in at least one case, the statement appears to have made a significant difference.

According to a source close to the production, Pixar’s next feature film, “Lightyear” — starring Chris Evans as the putative real-life inspiration for the “Toy Story” character Buzz Lightyear — does feature a significant female character, Hawthorne (voiced by Uzo Aduba), who is in a meaningful relationship with another woman. While the fact of that relationship was never in question at the studio, a kiss between the characters had been cut from the film. Following the uproar surrounding the Pixar employees’ statement and Disney CEO Bob Chapek’s handling of the “Don’t Say Gay” bill, however, the kiss was reinstated into the movie last week.

The decision marks a possible major turning point for LGBTQ representation not just in Pixar films, but in feature animation in general, which has remained steadfastly circumspect about depicting same-sex affection in any meaningful light.

To be sure, there are several examples of forthright LGBTQ representation in feature animation created for an adult audience, including in 1999’s “South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut,” 2007’s “Persepolis,” 2016’s “Sausage Party,” and 2021’s “Flee.” But in a G or PG rated animated movie, the pervasive approach has been to tell, not show — and only barely at that. Arguably the most high-profile LGBTQ character in an animated studio feature to date — Katie (Abbi Jacobson), the teenage lead of “The Mitchells vs. the Machines,” produced by Sony Pictures Animation and released by Netflix — is the exception that proves the rule: This explicit fact of Katie’s identity is only fully revealed in the final moments of the film when her mother makes a passing reference to her girlfriend.

In Pixar’s 27-year history, there have been just a small handful of unambiguous LGBTQ characters of any kind. In 2020’s “Onward,” a one-eyed cop (Lena Waithe), who appears in a few scenes, mentions her girlfriend. In 2019’s “Toy Story 4,” two moms hug their child goodbye at kindergarten. And 2016’s “Finding Dory” features a brief shot of what appears to be a lesbian couple, though the movie’s filmmakers were coy about defining them that way at the time. The most overtly LGBTQ project in Pixar’s canon is a 2020 short film, “Out,” about a gay man struggling with coming out to his parents — which the studio released on Disney Plus as part of its SparkShorts program.

But according to multiple former Pixar employees who spoke with Variety on the condition of anonymity, creatives within the studio have tried for years to incorporate LGBTQ identity into its storytelling in ways big and small, only to have those efforts consistently thwarted. (A spokesperson for Disney declined to comment for this story.)

In Pixar’s 2021 release, “Luca,” two young sea monsters who appear human when on land, Luca (Jacob Tremblay) and Alberto (Jack Dylan Grazer), build a profound friendship with each other that many interpreted as a coming out allegory — the New York Times’ review of the film was headlined “Calamari by Your Name.” The film’s director, Enrico Casarosa, even told The Wrap that he “talked about” the potential of Luca and Alberto’s friendship being romantic in nature. But he quickly added that “we didn’t talk about it as much” because the film focuses “on friendship” and is “pre-romance.”

“Some people seem to get mad that I’m not saying yes or no, but I feel like, well, this is a movie about being open to any difference,” Casarosa added.

According to two sources who spoke with Variety, however, the “Luca” filmmakers also discussed whether the human girl who befriends Luca and Alberto, Giulia (Emma Berman), should be queer. But the creative team appeared to be stymied by how to do it without also creating a girlfriend for the character.

“We very often came up against the question of, ‘How do we do this without giving them a love interest?'” says one source who worked at the studio. “That comes up very often at Pixar.”

It’s unclear why a studio that has imbued multi-dimensional life into everything from plastic toys to the concepts of sadness and joy would be stumped by how to create an LGBTQ character without a love interest. But it also appears Pixar has had difficulty incorporating queer representation even as part of the background. Multiple sources told Variety that efforts to include signifiers of LGBTQ identity in the set design of films located in specific American cities known for sizable LGBTQ populations — namely, 2020’s “Soul” (in New York City) and 2015’s “Inside Out” (in San Francisco) — were shot down. One source said that a rainbow sticker placed in the window of a shop was removed because it was deemed too “distracting.”

Other sources said same-sex couples were also removed from the background from these films, though a studio insider insists they do appear in “Soul.” (A review of the film by Variety noted a few examples of two women sitting or standing in close proximity with each other in shots that last less than a second, but the nature of their relationship is ambiguous.)

What is most troubling is how this censorship apparently manifested at the studio. The March 9 statement by Pixar employees states that “Disney corporate reviews” were responsible for the diminution of LGBTQ representation at Pixar — which would include the tenure of Chapek’s predecessor as CEO, Robert Iger. It’s why Pixar employees say they found Chapek’s assertion in a March 7 company-wide memo that the “biggest impact” Disney can make “is through the inspiring content we produce” so galling.

“Nearly every moment of overtly gay affection is cut at Disney’s behest, regardless of when there is protest from both the creative teams and executive leadership at Pixar,” the statement says. “Even if creating LGBTQIA+ content was the answer to fixing the discriminatory legislation in the world, we are being barred from creating it.”

But none of the sources who spoke with Variety could cite first-hand knowledge of Disney executives directly cutting LGBTQ content from specific Pixar features. Instead, the examples from “Luca,” “Soul” and “Inside Out” were purportedly driven either by the individual movie’s filmmaking team or by the studio’s own leadership. Effectively, Pixar engaged in self-censorship, say these sources, out of an abiding belief that LGBTQ content wouldn’t get past Disney review because Disney has needed the films to play in markets traditionally hostile to LGBTQ people: namely China, Russia, much of West Asia and in the American South.

Indeed, the inclusion of a one-eyed lesbian cop in “Onward” was enough to ban the film in Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and Saudi Arabia; and the version released in Russia swapped the word “girlfriend” with the word “partner.”

All of which makes the decision to restore the same-sex kiss in “Lightyear” — the first Pixar film due to open in movie theaters rather than on Disney Plus since 2019 — that much more meaningful for the studio and its employees, especially the ones who risked breaching Pixar’s decades-long near impenetrable silence about internal matters in their March 9 statement.

For Steven Hunter, the director of the short film “Out,” that effort was particularly important. While he is no longer at Pixar and couldn’t speak to any specific instances of censorship there, he said it was still “nerve-wracking” speaking out about the company at all. But with LGBTQ equal rights under threat by a sudden raft of state-level legislation, the importance of visibility in storytelling was too great for him to stay silent.

“I stand by my colleagues,” Hunter told Variety. “I’m really proud of those folks for speaking up. We need that. We need Mr. Chapek to understand that we need to be speaking up. We can’t assume that these laws that they’re trying to put in place aren’t hurtful and bigoted and, frankly, evil. We are not going away. We’re not going back in the closet.”

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/pixar-li...iss-1235209179/
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regardless of how profitable the movie will be.. staff usually doesn't get a cut of it. What's worse.. some animators fired/team disbanded despite the movie they made generated tons of $$$.

If staff are promised bonus depending on the earnings of the movie.. I'm sure some of them can compromise and allow the cut to reach more market$.




Don't forget , violence level in some movies also toned down to conform to gomen standards . Seldom see production team/staff adamant over retaining them.


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popular thing now.....every new movie must have unsur unsur LGBT+. And quite honestly, it feels like an agenda..........

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Cartoon also make so complicated sex scene why pixel not just develop hentai err?
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This is why anime is better. Gay scenes is aimed at their yuri or fujoshi targeted audiences. They never forced that shit into general targeted anime like Doraemon.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Jun 14 2022, 09:53 AM)
popular thing now.....every new movie must have unsur unsur LGBT+. And quite honestly, it feels like an agenda..........

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If you read the article, the bosses actually wanted to tone down LGBTQ elements in their movies but they got criticised badly by their own staff.

Disney employees even stage a walkout when the CEO was silent on the Don't Say Gay Bill.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/2...-mixed-messages
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Next we should make Cocomelon features gay parent with their adopted toddler
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jun 14 2022, 10:10 AM)
Next we should make Cocomelon features gay parent with their adopted toddler
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Anything wrong if they do it?

It is always up to parents to decide what they want to show their kids, right?


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Maybe we should also promote Furies or bestiality's. They too should have the same concern as LGBT.
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:01 AM)
This is why anime is better. Gay scenes is aimed at their yuri or fujoshi targeted audiences. They never forced that shit into general targeted anime like Doraemon.
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Imagine doraemon going woke where giant and suneo having a thing.

Damn…
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jun 14 2022, 10:22 AM)
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Yup. I read somewhere the kiss is only very brief.

Heck, there are even people who don't agree with any kissing scenes in cartoons even between man and woman.

In the other thread, someone is offended with Anna kissing Kristoff. LOL!
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Why LGBTs can't live like a normal human being???
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Why they need so much validation?
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jun 14 2022, 10:25 AM)
Imagine doraemon going woke where giant and suneo having a thing.

Damn…
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Lol, the 2 most hated characters in Doraemon
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Lol now kids cartoon also got gay couple and gay kiss.
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jun 14 2022, 10:22 AM)
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It's just a brief.... nothing to see really. But then you know lah those ultra conservative, anything also triggered. Bodo betul.
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QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 14 2022, 10:27 AM)
Why LGBTs can't live like a normal human being???
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Why they need so much validation?
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Mainly because they are still not accepted by a lot of people.

Look at how many people still think homosexuality is some type of mental illness.


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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:26 AM)
Yup. I read somewhere the kiss is only very brief.

Heck, there are even people who don't agree with any kissing scenes in cartoons even between man and woman.

In the other thread, someone is offended with Anna kissing Kristoff. LOL!
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Think along the way, kissing dog and cat…. Harammmmmmmmmmmm
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:29 AM)
Lol now kids cartoon also got gay couple and gay kiss.
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Anything wrong? It is a reflection of what is happening in western society.

You might not agree with their lifestyle but is banning them the right thing to do?


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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jun 14 2022, 10:22 AM)
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Ada black, Ada lgbt, perfect scene. Everyone rejoice
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:32 AM)
Mainly because they are still not accepted by a lot of people.

Look at how many people still think homosexuality is some type of mental illness.
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People can think what they like
The LGBTs can be what they want, but they seem to try hard to shove it down everyone's throat
It's cancer
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:20 AM)
Anything wrong if they do it?

It is always up to parents to decide what they want to show their kids, right?
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Cocomelon does not have parental control option though, nowadays most kids would have access to their own tablet given by parent to watch YouTube video. Instead of checking on what their kids watch, most parents would ask YouTube or the channel to censored or take down these LGBT content.

LGBT is still minority even in western countries, while they could have their rights, not everyone can accept these 'choices' or 'lifestyle' being publicize especially towards little children.

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QUOTE(mick84 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:33 AM)
Ada black, Ada lgbt, perfect scene. Everyone rejoice
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the lady on the left better be a trans, then only inclusive lgbt
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QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 14 2022, 10:27 AM)
Lol, the 2 most hated characters in Doraemon
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Ekceli they are best buddies all of them.

When nobita is bullied by someone else, giant and suneo will help him.
Go watch Stand by me 2.

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Good luck, I will not let my children watch it.

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They can put it back in, but it would be best to change rating to R16 or PG13 (depends how much exposure for kids about those scenes).
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Hopefully future Disney installment got campur-campur gender parents as well

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jun 14 2022, 10:38 AM)
Ekceli they are best buddies all of them.

When nobita is bullied by someone else, giant and suneo will help him.
Go watch Stand by me 2.
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Long time no watch liao, stand by me 2 is done by someone else, not the original author right?

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QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 14 2022, 10:35 AM)
People can think what they like
The LGBTs can be what they want, but they seem to try hard to shove it down everyone's throat
It's cancer
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Are they really shoving it down everyone's throat?

Like I say before, it is becoming a norm in western countries for same sex families.

So, it is just a reflection of what is really happening there.

Like I say before, you can don't agree with their lifestyle but the reality is it is happening and banning things does not mean it is not happening.


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QUOTE(serraX @ Jun 14 2022, 10:41 AM)
They can put it back in, but it would be best to change rating to R16 or PG13 (depends how much exposure for kids about those scenes).
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You'd think Disney woke will allow this?
Heterosexual kissing is quite common in all child friendly disney shows. Go watch cartoon versions of snow white or beauty and the beast
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QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 14 2022, 11:27 AM)
Why LGBTs can't live like a normal human being???
Ayam cannot digest
Why they need so much validation?
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Replace LBGT with (religion of choice) above... and you'll get the same thing.


I thought religious people who assumed its their basic human right to get validation from everyone (praises and all) , would empathize more with LBGT that wanted validations as well.


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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jun 14 2022, 10:36 AM)
Cocomelon does not have parental control option though, nowadays most kids would have access to their own tablet given by parent to watch YouTube video. Instead of checking on what their kids watch, most parents would ask YouTube or the channel to censored or take down these LGBT content.

LGBT is still minority even in western countries, while they could have their rights, not everyone can accept these 'choices' or 'lifestyle' being publicize especially towards little children.
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Well, nobody force parents to buy the ticket. The choice is always in the hands of the parents.

However, is banning the movie the right way?

No matter how we try to avoid, same sex family is emerging in the west.

Isn't it better to let our children know that there are such families there instead of shielding them from reality.

There is no shielding in today's age of social media and internet.


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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:42 AM)
Are they really shoving it down everyone's throat?

Like I say before, it is becoming a norm in western countries for same sex families.

So, it is just a reflection of what is really happening there.

Like I say before, you can don't agree with their lifestyle but the reality is it is happening and banning things does not mean it is not happening.
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I never disagree with their lifestyle or choice, they can be a monkey for all I care
But shoving it down everyone's throat is wrong
Biology is not that hard

In murica the public schools that don't go woke will not get government subsidy, what is that?
They are forcing it on people.
The lefties are toxic.
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QUOTE(McDullDull @ Jun 14 2022, 10:44 AM)
ala... mcm uols tak tau lanunbay je...
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Tak payah lanunlar.

Tunggu 45 hari, keluar Disney+.

Eternals also came out without any cuts on Disney+.
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 14 2022, 10:43 AM)
Replace LBGT with (religion of choice)  above... and you'll get the same thing.
I thought religious people who assumed its their basic human right to get validation from everyone  (praises and all) , would empathize more with LBGT that wanted validations as well.
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To me, they are just an insecure bunch that needs some attentions and validations
U can be as gay as the day is long nobody cares
But attending gay pride parade wearing all that stuff, its attention seeking
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QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 14 2022, 10:46 AM)
I never disagree with their lifestyle or choice, they can be a monkey for all I care
But shoving it down everyone's throat is wrong
Biology is not that hard

In murica the public schools that don't go woke will not get government subsidy, what is that?
They are forcing it on people.
The lefties are toxic.
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Like I say, nobody force you to watch it, right?

So, how can it be forcing it down your throat.

The power of buying the tickets is in your hands.

What biology? How you know homosexuality is not biology?

Why you care what happened to schools in America?

If their people don't like it, they can always vote the SJWs and Woke supporters out.

Isn't America democracy?

So, the right are not toxic? Who are the people who die die want gun rights and refuses to ban guns?
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QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 14 2022, 10:48 AM)
To me, they are just an insecure bunch that needs some attentions and validations
U can be as gay as the day is long nobody cares
But attending gay pride parade wearing all that stuff, its attention seeking
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So, what if they are attention seeking "bitch" (sorry for the bad word).

Who cares? They can do whatever they want.

It actually doesn't affect you or me at all.

You don't like their lifestyle, you just don't participate or don't look.

It is the same answer we give to certain religious people too.
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QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 14 2022, 10:27 AM)
Why LGBTs can't live like a normal human being???
Ayam cannot digest
Why they need so much validation?
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so they can blend and manipulate biological men / female in the name of LGBT and can walk away scott free

thats the validation they need



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QUOTE(lowfartt @ Jun 14 2022, 10:52 AM)
so they can blend and manipulate biological men / female in the name of LGBT and can walk away scott free

thats the validation they need
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Your response is exactly why they are coming out so strong trying to get validation laugh.gif


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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jun 14 2022, 10:25 AM)
Imagine doraemon going woke where giant and suneo having a thing.

Damn…
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lol reminds me of that fan-made comic
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QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 14 2022, 10:46 AM)
I never disagree with their lifestyle or choice, they can be a monkey for all I care
But shoving it down everyone's throat is wrong
Biology is not that hard

In murica the public schools that don't go woke will not get government subsidy, what is that?
They are forcing it on people.
The lefties are toxic.
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Were you persecuted? Do you know LGBT ppl are one of the most persecuted ppl in the world? Do you know they were stoned to death in certain countries just because they like their own kind?

You just take look at the comments here, ppl like to compare LGBT with pedo or beastiality or what not, calling it mental illness, disgusting filth. when there’s a difference between that as gay relationship is two ppl who have consent to love each other. Straight ppl wouldn’t know what it’s like cause they are already straight. Gay ppl are already at the loosing end in society as they don’t get acknowledgement, cannot have kids, nor are they attracted to opposite sex.

Now imagine yourself In Their shoes, or you just substitute LGBT with whatever you are r&r, and these unknown ppl just come into the forum and starts throwing insults to your kind. Even though you have no idea who they are and why they hate you so much

Then you have these corporations who support LGBT and these hypocrites hated it, but end up still buying or consuming their products. eg buying from a gay-CEO led company (Apple) or Sony or Google or what not.

Fact is gay ppl are everywhere. Whether you aware or not. That’s why Pride month exists to show support for these persecuted ppl.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:33 AM)
Anything wrong? It is a reflection of what is happening in western society.

You might not agree with their lifestyle but is banning them the right thing to do?
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So u wan ur kids to follow? U dunno ur kids learn what they saw?

Rather my kid hide and watch normal Porn than watching same sex kisses in a cartoon. At least it is straight. Anyway this the only thing felt im glad to be in msia, at least no sohai LGBTQ by the law.
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jun 14 2022, 10:42 AM)
Are they really shoving it down everyone's throat?

Like I say before, it is becoming a norm in western countries for same sex families.

So, it is just a reflection of what is really happening there.

Like I say before, you can don't agree with their lifestyle but the reality is it is happening and banning things does not mean it is not happening.
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It is not a norm even in western countries, it feels like it's a norm because mainstream media keep promoting it.

There is less than 7% LGBT community even by the mainstream media generous standard and tendency to boost the number and less than 1% transgender.
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QUOTE(farkingdom @ Jun 14 2022, 12:46 PM)
Were you persecuted? Do you know LGBT ppl are one of the most persecuted ppl in the world? Do you know they were stoned to death in certain countries just because they like their own kind?

You just take look at the comments here, ppl like to compare LGBT with pedo or beastiality or what not, calling it mental illness, disgusting filth. when there’s a difference between that as gay relationship is two ppl who have consent to love each other. Straight ppl wouldn’t know what it’s like cause they are already straight. Gay ppl are already at the loosing end in society as they don’t get acknowledgement, cannot have kids, nor are they attracted to opposite sex.

Now imagine yourself In Their shoes, or you just substitute LGBT with whatever you are r&r, and these unknown ppl just come into the forum and starts throwing insults to your kind. Even though you have no idea who they are and why they hate you so much

Then you have these corporations who support LGBT and these hypocrites hated it, but end up still buying or consuming their products. eg buying from a gay-CEO led company (Apple) or Sony or Google or what not.

Fact is gay ppl are everywhere. Whether you aware or not. That’s why Pride month exists to show support for these persecuted ppl.
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Yes, so persecuted that they have the whole month dedicated to them, have all the big company and media cater to them even when they are like 5% of the population.

I also want to be persecuted.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 14 2022, 09:01 PM)
So u wan ur kids to follow? U dunno ur kids learn what they saw?

Rather my kid hide and watch normal Porn than watching same sex kisses in a cartoon. At least it is straight. Anyway this the only thing felt im glad to be in msia, at least no sohai LGBTQ by the law.
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You dont guide your kids? You think they wont find out about LGBTQ on their own? Isnt it better to let them know instead of hiding it? Do really think sexual orientation can be changed by watching a cartoon scene of lesbian kissing?

Your response is exactly why LGBTQ agenda are so prominent today and why they are making so much noise because there are still so many ignorant and hatred against their community.
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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ Jun 14 2022, 09:11 PM)
It is not a norm even in western countries, it feels like it's a norm because mainstream media keep promoting it.

There is less than 7% LGBT community even by the mainstream media generous standard and tendency to boost the number and less than 1% transgender.
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There are still a lot of people who dont dare to come out in the open. You can see the response here where some people still think its some sort of mental disease and need to be cured. There are also lots of people who think they are some sort of sex starve monster too that are pariah to society.
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Then you have these corporations who support LGBT and these hypocrites hated it, but end up still buying or consuming their products. eg buying from a gay-CEO led company (Apple) or Sony or Google or what not.
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LGBT have been in movies for decades but no one bats an eye.
The moment two of them kiss, everyone loses their mind. laugh.gif

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Next we should make Cocomelon features gay parent with their adopted toddler
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jun 14 2022, 09:54 AM)
enough with the gay shit.


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QUOTE(feynman @ Jun 14 2022, 09:53 AM)
popular thing now.....every new movie must have unsur unsur LGBT+. And quite honestly, it feels like an agenda..........

Better Nate than never
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Kan..if wanna make LGBTQIA bbq movie then do so la. Here put some subtle element ,there put some scene

I'm ok with OC but don't fuck up existing IP with your gender propaganda
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jun 14 2022, 09:54 AM)
enough with the gay shit.


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Hopefully future Disney installment got campur-campur gender parents as well

Like this video

2 mommy dads + 1 dad mom + their konpius kids


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