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post Jun 13 2022, 11:12 PM, updated 4y ago

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Has anyone had experience working in both countries?

Just a heads up, I am holding an Australian PR (soon to be expired though), but looking at the currency rate (Sgd slightly higher than Aus) and the higher tax in Aus,
somehow Singapore seems more like a feasible place to rake in more disposable income? I am in construction/property-related industry.

Appreciate if anyone can give some input/personal anecdote, that would be helpful!
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post Jun 13 2022, 11:19 PM

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You need to consider the fact that the rental in SG probably not going to be as cheap dollar to dollar as AU.

Plus you can still drive around in AU.. SG one can be a bit far fetched based on COE pricing now.

I believe it might be easier to get a job in AU for you as you're already PR there
To get a job in SG you are "still subject to MOM approval" for the most part..

This post has been edited by ceo684: Jun 13 2022, 11:21 PM
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post Jun 14 2022, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 13 2022, 11:19 PM)
You need to consider the fact that the rental in SG probably not going to be as cheap dollar to dollar as AU.

Plus you can still drive around in AU.. SG one can be a bit far fetched based on COE pricing now.

I believe it might be easier to get a job in AU for you as you're already PR there
To get a job in SG you are "still subject to MOM approval" for the most part..
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What he said

Plus you have a PR too, you share very similar benefits with regular citizens
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post Jun 14 2022, 07:27 PM

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If you are starting a family or planning to, please stay put. More conducive environment for upbringing.
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post Jun 15 2022, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(keelim @ Jun 14 2022, 07:27 PM)
If you are starting a family or planning to, please stay put. More conducive environment for upbringing.
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Agreed, can be quite troublesome to have a family in AU or SG for that matter.

Worked in both places for > 2 years so I can sort of sum it up below:

SG
1. Need to walk a lot, take bus and mrt. Sometimes after taking bus/mrt to a place, I'll find myself already tired and feel like wanting to go back.
2. Eating out is cheap + food is similar to Malaysia hence easy to find food albeit same choices in different food courts
3. Very low tax compared to AU

AU
1. Can drive, car is cheap as well, but parking and toll charges can be quite expensive
2. Eating out is expensive and very less malaysian restaurants. Even if there is, quality is bad compared to those we have back in KL
High tax but can earn lot here still
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post Jun 15 2022, 02:53 PM

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Nobody want to be in that little red dot, room is small, need to walk a lot, cramp in the MRT crowd.
The only reason of being here is maybe because near to friends and family in MY
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post Jun 15 2022, 08:44 PM

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Personally...
AUS tick most the good point...
Also since u already got PR...

SG is nearer...
Food also similar....
But u would be tired out faster....
Stress level maximum... Kiasu level 😂
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post Jun 15 2022, 10:27 PM

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AUS have a points regime so unless you qualify to work at capitals such as Sydney or Melbourne, I will go for SG.

Most mys will end up at West Australia like Perth unless you are top specialist with PhDs from their own university
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post Jun 16 2022, 10:47 PM

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hi guys, may i ask is it hard to get 5 figures income in SG? (IT field)
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post Jun 18 2022, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(0B11ST4R @ Jun 13 2022, 11:12 PM)
Has anyone had experience working in both countries?

Just a heads up, I am holding an Australian PR (soon to be expired though), but looking at the currency rate (Sgd slightly higher than Aus) and the higher tax in Aus,
somehow Singapore seems more like a feasible place to rake in more disposable income? I am in construction/property-related industry.

Appreciate if anyone can give some input/personal anecdote, that would be helpful!
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Singapore better if you want to just earn money. Australia is better if you want to live a life
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post Jun 18 2022, 06:33 PM

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Angmoh want to go sg, sg/my want go angmoh countries

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post Jun 19 2022, 10:26 AM

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Australia, sg not a good place to raise a family.
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post Jun 19 2022, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jdite @ Jun 19 2022, 10:26 AM)
Australia, sg not a good place to raise a family.
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Not true. Singapore is a much better place to raise a family. At least you don't have to worry about security, discrimination or contend with the widespread drug issue plaguing Australia.
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post Jun 20 2022, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Jun 16 2022, 10:47 PM)
hi guys, may i ask is it hard to get 5 figures income in SG? (IT field)
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It really depends on your skillset and how experienced and good you are. All of my staff in Singapore earn more than 5 figures in IT.
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post Jun 23 2022, 09:44 PM

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Im not sure should consider discrimination against Asian especially East Asian in Aus?
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post Jun 25 2022, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(leagueoflegend @ Jun 23 2022, 09:44 PM)
Im not sure should consider discrimination against Asian especially East Asian in Aus?
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Ya but according to my friends working in sg, they also experience discrimination from locals, directly or indirectly.
I think this is the thing we have to accept since we are coming from a lower income country, they know we are cheap labour...
haiz such is life and reality..
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post Jun 25 2022, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 15 2022, 08:44 PM)
Personally...
AUS tick most the good point...
Also since u already got PR...

SG is nearer...
Food also similar....
But u would be tired out faster....
Stress level maximum... Kiasu level 😂
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Ya, also dont want to waste my PR...
but also abit concerned about discrimination in Australia la...but then having studied there I did not experience much discrimination apart from the fact that it is not easy to mingle with the locals..not sure the situation after the pandemic...are you working in Aus? any story to share?

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post Jul 19 2022, 10:14 AM

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You have PR in AU, just stick with AU, the benefits as PR in AU is basically the same as citizen. Meanwhile SG you have to start from scratch, PR in SG is harder to get nowadays and benefits are far lesser than citizen. If you raise a family, housing and schooling fees will be quite taxing.
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post Jul 23 2022, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(wringle.wringle @ Jun 27 2022, 12:23 PM)
Australia

Cheaper car house than sg

But higher tax 

Big country more relax less stress
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No money how to relax?

Housing is not cheaper in major australian cities unless you want to live an hours drive away. By then petrol and parking will be an issue. Not to mention maintenance cost a bomb esp when you send for servicing.

Tax is also very much higher. Salary is comparable to SG for the same position but less regional roles

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post Jul 23 2022, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(0B11ST4R @ Jun 13 2022, 11:12 PM)
Has anyone had experience working in both countries?

Just a heads up, I am holding an Australian PR (soon to be expired though), but looking at the currency rate (Sgd slightly higher than Aus) and the higher tax in Aus,
somehow Singapore seems more like a feasible place to rake in more disposable income? I am in construction/property-related industry.

Appreciate if anyone can give some input/personal anecdote, that would be helpful!
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\Why you don't apply to Setia ?

Think they got some property projects in Australia.

Singkie not good to live in for long term, ie retirement.
Australia is better for long term but property prices are very expensive, maybe if go live in smaller cities is affordable but not in the big cities.

On job choices, Australia don't really have a lot.
Also as usual there is a bit of discrimination, they prefer their own mat sallehs. But doesn't mean u can't get, just that you got to be better than an average Mat Salleh if you want them to hire you.

For example, a friend of mine who was a high level CFO migrated there, could not even find job for 1 year, in the end it was a fellow Msian who have a biz in Aust who hired him.

Make sure you have lots of savings b4 u migrate over to Australia because it can burn really fast

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