RM120k with SST for 1.5NA from Honda City for base model....

That's a lot of over confidence in the brand and form factor compared to X50 Flagship as well as Civic and City and Corolla Cross.

The question is will you pay RM20k more for ADAS...but much lower engine performance.

I think I will rather go for Civic or just top up a little bit and get a Corolla cross. Then the size much easier to justify.

I was genuinely surprised with the pricing. Toyota can breath a sigh of relief.

I personally think Honda a bit nuts with this price, Corolla cross a better deal to me.

Should be 10k less across the board.

i know mandarin and I am aware of the less shoulder space between Corolla cross and HRV (based on previous outgoing model) where i sat in.
But, boot space you don't need to see review.

Next, HRV seat middle bump will take away some comfort.....so eventually for 5 adults neither car is going to be ideal for a long drive.

For 4 adults both cars can do it. For 4 adults + baby seat, you have to seriously bring your seat to the test drive. That's what I did and I found HRV to be a bit better, but only for my particular own seat.

But when you think of maxing out seriously the boot of HRV is just a myvi level and you will struggle for space when doing balik kampung with family luggage etc.

So overall size wise I think one can do the in town / city job, one is can do most of the jobs.

Then comes performance which HRV wins. I think CC is very bad in the foot brake but otherwise a great package for up to 4 adults. All in all if I was in the market CC is still an important consideration for me.

thats why you see the advertisement for HRV is catered for the very young. Its horses for courses.

My car with wired carplay, I add a dongle from shopee and became wireless. Not big issue.

Will be similar for HRV.

I think those who can afford and never really worried for space (couples, singles, really small families, 2nd town car, etc) won’t really mind the extra price compared to the previous model since you do get a lot more. Those who were on the fence and not convinced then May still go to Corolla cross. I was one of them and somehow I jumped to Civic haha.

https://www.lazada.com.my/wireless-aa-wirel....298849fbCzvWsT

you can buy anything similar, the prices have started to come down.

According to this, there is a much larger difference between in boot space between Corolla Cross (Bigger) than HRV (smaller).

is this just another illusion?

If you need real low speed follow ACC, then forget about Corolla cross. Yes footbrake is defeating the purpose. Just go test drive and try it at a busy traffic light or purposely go jam road.
In Malaysia if you want everything then the price is much higher. Including that LSF, maybe you can also look at Corolla altis instead. Not lower than civic. I think at least one of the seats can adjust higher too. Another option safest is CRV. I think no issue for in and out, quite nice for me. And civic should still be tested by your parents, maybe get them to the showroom haha.

But in your situation I’d just go for CRV TCP, 2nd hand if need to save money. Altis if your mom can easily get seated and exit.

I can’t think of a logical reason why D would decline right? He gets the car sooner, pays the same amount or less…the only reason is he can’t afford / cannot get loan approved?

So then the SA1 still goes and advertise openly?