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Quazacolt
post Jul 15 2022, 04:28 PM

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copy pasting my post:


did people forgotten HRV is a b seg suv aka a city that's pulled upwards? lol

yes, its expensive because of:
1) SUV bigger fatter
2) drive train
3) inflation
4) Honda asensing
5) Honda Malaysia margins lol

it'll be interesting to see new CRV pricings biggrin.gif
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post Jul 15 2022, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jul 15 2022, 09:43 PM)
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noticed the seat has the same issue as Civic RS, this part where u sit lacks cushioning, feels very hard as if you are sitting directly on top of the metal. Not sure if can tahan for long journeys
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Can, more comfy than my 86 laugh.gif

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post Jul 31 2022, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Jul 30 2022, 09:35 PM)
Through door panel gaps. Only troublesome part might be at the rear - but they are pro la. They definitely have experience and tools to do it.
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Our previous HRV rear camera was DIY and the most difficult thing is the weather sealing grommet through the hatch back door (that's where the rear lighting etc gets routed through)
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post Aug 12 2022, 02:01 PM

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HRV optional accessories - DashCam front and back, does it have parking surveillance?

What are the specs?
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post Aug 12 2022, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 12 2022, 03:23 PM)

Got parking mode, 1080p only. Same as Civic’s Digital Video Recorder spec. Parking mode only impact, not movement.

1. https://www.honda.com.my/withdreams/placing...video-recorder/
2. https://www.honda.com.my/aftersales/honda-p...ed-products/dvr

Also, just noticed the Reverse Camera guide lines is STATIC! The HU for 2022 HRV really is the worst… even the old HRV HU reverse guide lines is dynamic…
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lol Honda, the power of dreams.
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post Aug 12 2022, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 12 2022, 03:40 PM)
But the new HRV HU got RDS wor… our Civic also dun have… their optional accessories also have wireless charger option. Really facepalm this Honda Malaysia, why Civic with Wireless Carplay dun have this official option.
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i don't care much for RDS

just the crappy reverse camera quality is enough to just go with the bold. no need further elaboration or pusing lol.just facepalm je. mega_shok.gif
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post Aug 14 2022, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 14 2022, 12:55 AM)

You the first one that said Honda ACC harsh. It proven again Wxxcar is bullshit paid review. They praised it better than TSS 1.1/2.0 which I find hard to believe.
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Honda sensing ACC is pretty harsh but can be manually assisted to smoothen it (applying acceleration to brake, for example)

Lol wap car
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post Aug 14 2022, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 14 2022, 10:11 AM)
Not everyone can do precise throttle input like you man. This solution is not for everyone.

A lady drove my ES once, few years ago. I wasn't feeling good after lunch. Lol wheel spin out of junction. Counter intuitive solution was put the car in sport mode, let her felt the push early to ease off the input early. It was a little jerky with on/off throttle, at least no more wheel spin.
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Yeah, funny counter intuitive methods like what I've mentioned and what you've applied with Sport mode.

Very interesting car designs with human behaviours laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2022, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 18 2022, 07:53 AM)
So after driving 1284km on my wife’s HR-V, the oil life maintenance minder finally showed the remaining mileage, and it was quite a surprise to see the figure laugh.gif

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Civic same engine/turbo as HRV v, but the oil maintenance very different laugh.gif
mine currently overdue by 600 km... but should be within the 1k allowable limit during the service 2 days later.

we'll see. lol.
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post Aug 18 2022, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 18 2022, 10:24 AM)
No traffic jams bro.
The longer you let your car on idle, the worst your engine oil life will become.

Ya, was really surprised to see this figure pop up, but still a welcome one to be sure. 1k overdue still acceptable, yes. So 10k periodic service this weekend?
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just in case/pointing out, traffic jams, any duration sitting in traffic not moving = lol oil life counter.

but, in this case for your wife's HRV and my wife's Civic, matter of 5k/10k difference (ignoring the few k variances from the actual monitoring) on the first actual oil change service.
did they determine the HRV engine is more robust? or did they detune the HRV a little bit compared to Civic? or did they improved their oil so that the interval can be longer to 10k instead of 5k for first oil change?
or just shitty technician being inconsistent on the reminder reset/setting?

lol.

yeah it is within 1k overdue (currently 6k km) and yes 10k km/6 months this weekend
actually 28 Aug, but we got plans that weekend so decided to do a week ahead, + that overdue reminder is annoying lol

i am thinking to service CVT sooner at 20k km next service, but we'll see. to discuss with minister lol
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post Aug 18 2022, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 18 2022, 11:27 AM)
Oil change has always been 10k/6 months OR maintenance minder balance, whichever is sooner.
Not sure if they changed the calculation method, or it was just the way my wife drove / her daily route.

As I mentioned on other threads (Civic 10, Civic FE), on the FC, I could only get up to 100km extra for the Engine Oil Life (5.5 years ownership experience). The FE so far I could get 700km extra (7 months ownership experience). This is the first time I see anywhere (forum boards, FB group etc), that anyone could get close to 3,800km extra laugh.gif

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yeah that's what i meant, typically it is 10k/6 months whichever first and then reduction or addition, minor variances depending on the oil life monitoring. which we have deduced that it is basically engine run time x km (maybe even calendar date or time included) calculation(s).

hence my food for thoughts above, or just lol @ Honda Malaysia inconsistencies laugh.gif

how did you gotten extra 3800 km though from 12500 km? 12500 - 3800 > 8700 lol
that's a bit confusing lol.
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post Aug 18 2022, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 18 2022, 11:50 AM)
it's 12,500km oil life balance when I've driven 1,284km and supposed to be changed at 10,000km.

Thus, 12,500km + 1,284km - 10,000km = 3,784km extra.
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Ah ok that explains it.
But the extra probably doesn't matter since you're doing the periodic maintenance anyways.

Otherwise need to go extra times one for periodic one for the oil life laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2022, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 18 2022, 04:32 PM)
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Guys, the 1st all new HR-V has just been delivered! You guys should receive yours soon! /s
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post Aug 18 2022, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 18 2022, 04:47 PM)
laugh.gif my wife v spec, and has been driving hers for close to 3 weeks. Not sure why Honda named her as “1st owner”. If 1st person to book also doesn’t make sense since she only got it today.
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maybe 1st RS? LOL
but yeah, totally ?????????? when owners are already clocking like a thousand km and already done first or even second services.
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post Aug 18 2022, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Aug 18 2022, 09:57 PM)
If you're using 1.5VTEC Turbo then there is Service A and B. Service A will come sooner than 6 months depending on your driving pattern as the ECU will monitor the quality of the engine oil before oil change required. Service B remain the same, 6 months interval.
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For Honda civic turbo
A is just first oil change without oil filter
B is second oil change including oil filter

First A is 5k km for civic (first 1k is only inspection no oil change)
Then both A and B 10k km/6 months whichever first oil change.
Suggest to align together with the regular periodic maintenance
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post Aug 20 2022, 05:53 PM

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Many folks in Melaka ready for their turbo HRV lol
(At least 5-6 HRV readying)
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But umm, it's pretty f 'ing obvious that the 1.5 turbo is FORCED into the HRV (as it doesn't have a c / D segment length/wheelbase to properly fit it lol)
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post Aug 20 2022, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 20 2022, 06:25 PM)
Help me understand further. It seems like the exhaust at the side and not through the center tunnel?

The extra rod, like it is mounting for other models, but unused here.
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I'm actually very curious why Honda still mount the engine (at least for the 1.5T, didn't check other engine) with exhaust facing the front (after extractor the exhaust has to go through bottom of the engine), intake manifold facing the back.
Most modern engine already flip the engine block to reduce exhaust path.

For crazy engineering first company, they should have good reason other than cost.
** they designed 3 totally different Hybrid system in past 2 decades. In most company that put financial/supply chain/management background people on top, a lot of people will get fired in similar situation.
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I'll be honest that i missed that mounting too! Too occupied on "what the fuck is that resonator sticking out of the car?!"

If i were to assume, Honda has reasons to maintain exhaust length/path, so much that this ugly Frankenstein HRV turbo is the result lol.

Reasons aside, this resonator mishap is 100% cost. The mounting you pointed out is a dead give away.

And that's the case for ALL Honda Malaysia (can't confirm for other countries) B segment vehicles.

Look at their interior and exhaust setup. It's becoming very P2 that they are just banking on selling paper specs (Honda sensing, turbo, lol) and falls fucking flat on actual end product lol.
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post Aug 22 2022, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(waikikizzz18 @ Aug 22 2022, 08:47 AM)
Kena bump speed will pecah ?
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SUV still need to be afraid of speed bumps?
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post Sep 4 2022, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Sep 3 2022, 10:51 PM)
3) High speed low amplitude and low speed high amplitude.
The speed here is not the vehicle speed, but rather the speed of the shock absorber movements.

Low speed high amplitude is like during cornering, the vehicle has gradual weight transfer that compress the outer wheels suspension and extend the inner wheels suspension.
High speed low amplitude is like gravel road, bad pavement, brick roads that give constant fast vibration but relatively small movement to suspensions.

To me, a good and balance suspension for road use is stiff on low speed, which provide good support during cornering, and yet soft on the high speed movement to absorb the vibration.
Such that the car is still pleasant on the bad pavement, but the driver can clearly feel the road reflector etc, and over road undulation change the car settle in just 1 swing.
I'm not a fans of magic carpet ride, so if you think it absorb the rapid vibration well, then it is good in my world.

Of course if driven fast over a pothole fast, that become high speed high amplitude, no road car suspension can handle that.

I'm a little bit tempted to upgrade to Ohlins DFV. The kit for my car is 80% stiffer then stock, but it has separate bypass valve for high speed movement that allow the shock to behave like "soft" in rapid vibration. It is a hefty cost for sure.
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Not so straight forward if i may add, and reminder again to the masses: this is your actual "Hi-Lo" (and not suspension height!) Which can be high speed compression/low speed compression and/or high speed rebound/low speed rebound.
These are your "way" adjustment. Height was never in the amount of "ways" equation.

Now back to why i mention not so straight forward:
1) low speed could also need "softness" otherwise road undulations (not so sharp speed bumps, those highways that are wavy such at the stretch between Seremban and Melaka) would get very harsh.
2) high speed could also need "stiffness" otherwise hard braking, sharp corners, switchbacks, direction changes would lose steering capability/feedback and worse, need grip in a hurry.
Then there's the distinction of all these scenarios on either compression or rebound.
(No surprise it's a "dark art" in the past when education is much lower to the general masses and information is not readily available before the age of internet such as Google YouTube Wikipedia, and further worsened by car groups and communities ridiculing/insulting people who ask/not willing to share etc)

That's why the complexity of velocity sensitive/digressive dampers, electronic (be it manual or automatic adjustment) dampers

Ohlins DFV having such additional overflow (dual flow marketing) to address few of such scenarios I've mentioned)
Instead of an outright linear stiffness on say, high speed, it has an overflow oil passage to digress damper compression so it'll be compliant during say, pot holes or speed bumps, but still very capable on say, hard brake, direction changes, sharp corners.

One interesting thing with road irregularities to add into the mix, is speed bumps tend to be issue of compression, pot holes rebound.
Ohlins DFV tend to not be able to address rebound tongue.gif (i haven't got the privilege to personally own Ohlins DFV myself though, only passionate enough to understand its technicalities beyond its marketing)

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post Sep 4 2022, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(jimmychangas @ Sep 4 2022, 04:55 PM)
X70
I couldn’t get the side mirrors to go to the angle that I want lah.


CBU Japan Jazz Hybrid) has some pretty decent NVH for its class.
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1) which angle? In wards or out wards?
Just in case, when you adjust side mirrors, your own vehicle should not be visible at all (in wards)

2) the one where engine stop Aircon also stop? XD

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