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Mai189
post Mar 12 2023, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 12 2023, 11:09 AM)
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prc Anti-aircraft missiles, Anti-ship missiles, Surface radar, Air radar, Fighter jets range in scs.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-boxed-am...litary-d2833768

Almost all air and sea movement in s&s is monitored by prc
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Any solution there will need to include a cooperative China.

It is not as if there are unmovable - the agreed to stop broadcasting Commie radio propaganda signals when they were told that it was an impediment to good relations with Asean.

But these concerns territorial possessions - it may take a very long time and even so, marginal gains by any side.

Just do confidence building for now..
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post Mar 12 2023, 12:24 PM

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^ For that to happen, it will require a strong man akin to Deng.

We have one now in Xi.

Create the circumstances and opportunities for settlement.
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post Mar 12 2023, 03:40 PM

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Israeli Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd. announced it has completed development of its Sky Shield family of Electronic Attack Pods for an unknown customer.


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The company tweeted that the system is being trialed on a 4.5 generation aircraft.


https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/02/09/i...sky-shield-pod/



Mai's note/speculation:

There are only a handful of 4.5 gen F15 variants (leaving out F15SA (Saudi Arabia) and F15QA (Qatar) as they use bona fide US/UK systems (and extremely unlikely to rely on Israeli electronics for such missions lest they need to combat Israel herself) and F15IA (for Israel and based on the F15EX and not yet constructed) and it would be a known local customer...left the F15SG version. Note: Koreas F15K is generally not regarded as 4.5 gen as it lacks AESA. It also uses Samsung electronics.

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post Mar 12 2023, 04:28 PM

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New video by Rafael on the Python 5 short range air to air and/or ground to air missile:



Open source information puts air-to-air range at 3 to 40km. Derby is a lengthened version of the Python 5 missile with even greater range.

Aircraft cleared to use the missile: F16 (Blocks 15/30/40/50/52 + later models) and the F-15 (A/B/C/D + later models) as well as the Kfir, LCA, and F-5. It is likely to be integrated with Israel's F35Is and as such, Singapore F35s are likely to carry it too.

Users in South East Asia: 1) Thailand -Python 4

2) Singapore - Python 4/5 and Derby/Derby ER - on F16Vs/F15SG aircraft and Spyder SHORADs

3) Philippines - Python 5 and Derby/Derby/Derby ER on Spyder medium range version (booster rocket for additional range)

4) Vietnam - Python 5 and Derby/Derby ER on Spyder SHORADs

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post Mar 18 2023, 01:58 PM

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The current F35 engine makers, Pratt & Whitney, wins the F-35 engine upgrade program

- Military officials said Friday they determined Pratt & Whitney’s proposal to modernize the already existing F135s in a program called the Engine Core Upgrade was the most cost-efficient option that would work for all F-35s.


https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023/03/13/...l-upgrade-f135/

Some benefits of the "updated" F135 engine:

1) Thrust/acceleration more than 10 percent increase or 10% to 20% increase.

2) Range more than 10 percent increase or 10% to 20% increase.

3) F35B will have more than >5% increase in vertical lift

4) 50% improvement in thermal management

5) overall more energy to install future upgrades like lasers.







Mai189
post Mar 18 2023, 02:04 PM

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The so-called flying brick is turning out to be the benchmark for 5th gen medium stealth fighters - and by now, roundly tested in all kinds of environments and climate.

And combat-used/proven:

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/30409-is...ir-to-air-kills



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post Mar 18 2023, 02:40 PM

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Good video of the stealth vessel in used by Singapores Naval Diving unit and built by ST Marine:



I suppose it will work with RSN's high speed naval interceptor and USVS.

High Speed Stealth Naval Interceptor



USVs in used by RSN (RSN uses at least 3 types - last count):



^ this 17m-18m rather large USV will also be carried internally by RSN's MRCV heavy frigates (at least 2 per ship) though it wont be in maritime security configuration - likely surveillance + anti-sub or surveillance + anti-surface or surveillance + anti-sub operations. The design of the vessel is from a Taiwanese firm but it has been upgraded by Sgs DSTA for use by RSN - likely cheaper than the competing design from ST Engineering



^ this ST Marine Venus's USV meanwhile is used for anti-mine and anti-sub operations. RSN claims this is a world first.

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^RSN's Protector USV from Rafael - largely for maritime security protection operations.

Im not sure what the first USV is called and/or the variants.

Note: All the USVs and stealth boats are usually armed in operational service with cannons/guns and optionally with Spike missiles e.g:



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post Mar 18 2023, 02:42 PM

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Spike NLOS Naval 6th gen


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post Mar 18 2023, 02:43 PM

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Spike missiles on Protector USV (stealthy variant):



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Something I missed. Blue Spear/Sea Serpent/PTO2020/Gabriel 5 comes with a hardened casing (from Janes report) I suppose for bunkers and yes - bullets e.g. CIWS.

Actually, I am not so sure Sg will purchase the domestically produced missile to replace the ageing Harpoons or in its current form.

There are online reports of a more advanced Gabriel 5 with multi spectral targeting system etc.

But yes, the missile is currently rolling off the factory floor in Sg and Israel for customers.

Time will tell..and the harpoons have to go and I think..soon.

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post Mar 18 2023, 03:51 PM

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Now why would they want 2 "relatively" new 500+ ton patrol vessels?

Indonesia and Singapore may want Brunei to pull its own weight in the seas around Natuna against you know who. There is some sort of joint coordination between Indonesia and Singapore there as Ive read.

These vessels have high levels of automation + they can be equipped with French Exocet Blk 1C or US Harpoon or Singapore's Blue Spear surface to surface missiles + point defence SAMs e.g. mistral 3 (7km+ range) or Barak 1 (>12km - Singapores outgoing Victory class corvettes are quipped with 16 Barak 1 vertically launched missiles. Barak 1 also has a limited local area defence capability against air and surface targets). Singapore can certainly make these upgrades for Brunei.

In future, Brunei (pursuant to the familiarity of using a Singaporean system) may opt for something larger like the Al-Ofouq class made by Singapore for Oman:

https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/2652293

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ofouq-class_patrol_vessel
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Seriously, these are "youthful" ships at about 20 years old each. Can Sg give some to My pretty pls...4 left after 2 given to Brunei and 4 refitted as maritime security vessels.

Source: RSN

For info: The Fearless class was replaced by the larger Independence class Littoral Mission Vessels:

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post Mar 19 2023, 01:30 PM

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The current F35 engine makers, Pratt & Whitney, wins the  F-35 engine upgrade program

- Military officials said Friday they determined Pratt & Whitney’s proposal to modernize the already existing F135s in a program called the Engine Core Upgrade was the most cost-efficient option that would work for all F-35s.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023/03/13/...l-upgrade-f135/

Some benefits of the "updated" F135 engine:

1) Thrust/acceleration more than 10 percent increase or 10% to 20% increase.

2) Range more than 10 percent increase or 10% to 20% increase.

3) F35B will have more than >5% increase in vertical lift

4) 50% improvement in thermal management

5) overall more energy to install future upgrades like lasers.
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Additional upgrades apart from the above:



RSAF being a smart later buyer will get all of these upgrades. The same upgrades will also be retrofitted into current operational F35s.

**Please note that RCS reduction is becoming common. What makes a combat jet truly 5th gen is really the digital and electronic systems, electronic warfare and data fusion that makes it able to see first, see further, see the whole battlespace, strike first and strike both tactically and strategically as part of an overarching battle system.**

No other combat jet has these capabilities - which the f22 and f35 have right now. That makes all these other jets 4.5 gen at most.

Mais note: i edited the previous post on RSNs USVs to correct the videos esp. RSNs Venus USVs.

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post Mar 21 2023, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Mar 20 2023, 04:33 PM)
With most of the equipment of the mast a remove.
At best it's a FFBNW OPV.
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I want to say Israeli equipment but there's more.

I think the likely explanation is that the Bruneians use different systems and want commonality. Secondly, I don't think you can simply transfer armaments and/or related systems without getting the prior approval of the original vendors and/or countries - you'll probably need to pay $$. So, Sg has to remove them.

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Mar 21 2023, 06:20 PM)
On 2nd look
Even the Gun are removed
Wonder if the sonar are removed as well.

It's more of a patrol vessel then OPV or FAC.
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It is up to the Bruneians to decide what armaments and sensors they want on board obviously. For e.g. they use the 57mm Bofors so it is possible that theyll fit those in. They can go back to ST for the works or opt for another vendor.

Here's a video of the handover in Brunei:


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post Mar 23 2023, 06:09 PM

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See what armaments their OPV carries.
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post Mar 23 2023, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 29 2022, 02:14 PM)
Singapore Armed Forces formally integrates its 4th branch - the Digital and Intelligence Service (DIS) (Motto: Defend and Dominate)

MISSION:

The DIS will defend and dominate in the digital domain.

As part of an integrated SAF, the DIS will enhance Singapore’s security, from peace to war.


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Digital and Intelligence Service (New)
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Commander US Cyber Command visits Singapore to enhance engagement and collaboration between Sgs DIS and the US cyber command.

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post Mar 23 2023, 06:22 PM

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Death toll from a successful full scale cyberwar? Millions from the collapse of modern civilization e.g. drinking water, electricity, medical systems, banking systems, food supply chains, sanitation, port/airspace, and military coordination systems, etc.

A war may well be over even before bullets start flying when a nation is suddenly subjected to a massive cyber and electronic attack.

From the video - up to 90% of US citizens could be dead within a year of a successful massive cyber attack.

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post Mar 25 2023, 06:42 PM

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Performance of the Matador - Israeli-Singapore-German lightweight anti-tank/anti-armour/anti-brickwall weapon in Ukraine


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https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-ukrainian-mil...20for%20Ukraine.

In brief, it is very effective against wall (obstacles) and IFVs and may penetrate main battle tanks (with ERA) - even if there is no penetration, the tank crew will get minced anyhow from the blast impact which achieves a mission kill.

Singapore, Israel and Germany uses the light weight Matador alongside medium/heavier anti tank weapons like the Spike. The beauty of the Matador is that it can be mass produced relatively fast and equipped with as many units as possible so an enemy may well face a rain of Matador munitions. Note: Singapore produces both Matador and Spike missile (which now exists as marine, land and air-to-surface variants) locally.



Mai's note: The MATADOR was developed jointly by the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) and the Defence Science and Technology Agency (DSTA), in collaboration with Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and Germany's Dynamit Nobel Defence (DND) joint team.

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Mar 25 2023, 04:17 PM)
Indian Sukhoi serviceability will likely be impacted if Russian spare parts are delayed due to Ukraine war
https://ukranews.com/en/news/922976-indian-...-aircraft-media

Same applies to RMAF. Looks like Malaysia may be defended by only 7-8 old hornets in the next few years until FA-50 arrives.
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The Indians feared the same and has a program to indigenize many Russian-origin aircraft parts. So India is a possible source but this may take time.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Mar 19 2023, 01:30 PM)
Additional upgrades apart from the above:



RSAF being a smart later buyer will get all of these upgrades. The same upgrades will also be retrofitted into current operational F35s.

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Users of US-origin 5th gen aircraft will also be getting most of the new air-to-air weapons the USAF/US Marines are getting - some of which include:

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Air-to-Air Missiles
AIM-260 Joint Advanced Tactical Missile (JATM). This radar-guided dogfight missile will be about the same size as the 30-year-old AIM-120 AMRAAM, but with considerably longer range. Built by Lockheed Martin  it was first revealed in 2019. Little has been revealed since, but USAF has acknowledged that live tests were conducted in 2020 and 2021. The JATM’s enhanced range is greater than China’s PL-15—in many ways, an AMRAAM clone, restoring the “first shot, first kill” advantage to U.S. aircraft. The Navy and Army are said to be collaborating with USAF on JATM.

Long-Range Engagement Weapon (LREW). Another potential AMRAAM successor or JATM complement. Built by Raytheon, the LREW is reportedly a larger missile that can only be carried externally on fighters, and may be intended to shoot down adversary airborne warning systems, tankers, or bombers at great distances. 
 
Modular Advanced Missile (MAM). Possibly a successor to the AIM-9X short-range dogfight missile, the MAM will have stackable propulsion units and interchangeable seekers. Built by Boeing, the MAM contracts also support other company projects, such as the Compact Air-to-Air Missile (CAAM), Extended-Range Air-to-Air Missile (ERAAM), and Long-Range Air-to-Air Missile (LRAAM). The ERAAM/LRAAM may be a competitor to Raytheon’s LREW.

Peregrine. This Raytheon concept would combine the capability of the AMRAAM with longer range in a package only half the size. Raytheon received Air Force Research Laboratory funding to explore  Peregrine in December 2022; previously, it was a self-funded program.

CUDA. A Lockheed proposal that AFRL began evaluating in 2019 under the Small Advanced Capabilities Missile project, the CUDA would also be half the size of AMRAAM, steered with a unique system of propulsive bursts from around the rocket body.

Hypersonic Missiles
AGM-183A Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW). The ARRW is USAF’s large, quick-and-dirty entrée into hypersonic missiles—those that travel at more than five times the speed of sound. Intended for use against high-value or mobile targets where speed of attack from standoff range is crucial, ARRW accelerates to hypersonic speed with a rocket, detaches, and then maneuvers as it glides to its target. The Lockheed Martin weapon has accumulated several successful flight- tests after a string of failures, but USAF officials are mum on how many it plans to build. Part of Lockheed’s contract is to demonstrate it can be produced affordably. A B-52 can carry four ARRWs on its wing pylons. The B-1B and F-15EX may also be equipped with it.

Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM). Raytheon won the HACM competition in September 2022, with an initial operating capability eyed for around 2027. The missile is a ground-attack weapon using an air-breathing, scramjet engine, and will be small enough to be carried on fighter-sized aircraft; the F-15EX has been mentioned as a likely platform. It builds on the Air Force-DARPA Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC).

Ground-Attack Weapons
Stand-in Attack Weapon (SiAW). The Air Force awarded competitive SiAW contracts to L3Harris Technologies, Lockheed Martin, and Northrop Grumman in May 2022. The weapon is intended to be a Suppression/Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses successor to the High-speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM) in use since the 1980s. Intended as a pathfinder weapon to clear out defensive radars and surface-to-air weapons, SiAW will add ballistic missile launchers and other time-sensitive targets to its target list. The weapon must fit inside the F-35 weapons bay. Once a contractor is selected, a 2026 operational capability is contemplated.

Stand-off Attack Weapon (SoAW). The Air Force formally announced its SoAW competition in September 2022 and specified that it’s looking for multiple vendors to produce the  chosen design, which USAF intends to own. The Air Force didn’t disclose its range requirements for SoAW; it may be intended as a lower-cost standoff weapon to fill the niche of the AGM-158 Joint Advanced Surface Standoff Missile–Extended Range (JASSM-ER) and its close kin, the AGM-158C Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM). 

Global Precision Attack Weapon (GPAW). Likely to be the successor to JDAM—USAF’s family of direct-attack, GPS-guided bombs—the GPAW was announced in the fall of 2020. The service wants small, lightweight weapons to strike surface targets as well as  hardened or deeply buried targets, yet affordable in large numbers. The weapon is supposed to have advanced sensors and a degree of autonomy. The GPAW is to have an open architecture and be compatible with advanced as well as legacy aircraft, with a “cockpit-selectable warhead effect.”
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/f...ration-weapons/

Mai's note: As many as 8 WVR/BVR Peregrine missiles (with range as long and/or longer then the current Amraams) and as many as 12 or more Cuda missiles can be fitted into the internal weapon bays of the F35s. Or mix of AIM-260 and Peregrine or other missiles.

Countries with their own indigenous combat jets will need to 1) seek clearance and 2) pay of the integration of US weapons and it will not be cheap.

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