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TSmystvearn
post May 25 2022, 09:05 AM, updated 4y ago

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Hi,

I've used the Honda Future since 2013. Bought the high spec. front and rear brake disc. Nothing wrong with the motorcycle but my uncle wants to buy it. Only got about 9.4k km on ODO meter. I did put a RM5k selling price if he wants it. Hopefully he does not want it since I don't see the need to sell the motorcycle yet. If he does commit to it, thinking of replacing with a scooter as scooter has covered footwell. Go in puddles, foot still dry and usually scooter has big boot.

Usage has not changed since my previous motorcycle. Criteria:
1. Weekend/weekday use around house. Mostly to buy groceries. Sometimes bawa kids around Kg area. 9 years in and I only used like 9.4k km. So 1k+ km/year.
2. Easy to service/maintain.
3. Similar size to the Honda Future and has a big storage boot. I use the Honda future boot to put it lots of items bought at store. Also easy to park and ciluk in traffic jams.
4. 250cc and below. I have B2 license. Also don't want wet clutch or clutch motorcycle.
5. I don't plan to modify the scooter since I don't use it for daily commute. I also don't mind used since my low KM usage.
6. Price <RM20k.

Suggestions?
TSmystvearn
post May 25 2022, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Strike Eureka @ May 25 2022, 10:36 AM)
Adv 150
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nicee.

QUOTE(Noryume @ May 25 2022, 11:04 AM)
If not heavily use, i suggest avantiz. Honda vario seem good too. Nvx design good but too big and heavy for the engine cc.
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Neighbour use Vario. Looks and features nice. Looks like a bit smaller than my current Honda future.
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post May 25 2022, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ May 25 2022, 07:48 PM)
The compartment might be the same as future if think back. I just like the nice big leg room with my recommendation. I don't really fancy scooter with fairing in between your leg.
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Vario compartment is 18L and Future compartment is 19L. ADV 150 is 28L
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post May 26 2022, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Sammy6 @ May 26 2022, 10:08 AM)
planning to get the adv150 as well.. but for 13k, i'm contemplating on getting other clutch bike instead D:
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Which one?
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post May 26 2022, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(leon898 @ May 26 2022, 05:12 PM)
i think Nmax/pcx for large storage.. can't go wrong with any of these...
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Is pcx still on sale? Could not find at boon siew website.
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post May 27 2022, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ May 27 2022, 02:39 PM)
Since u have quite a big budget, I would suggest to go for Honda ADV150. Reasons being:

- the bike looks big due to its design, but it is actually quite compact. It is based from PCX150 frame & engine
- fuel tank is on the footwell, so u get extra storage undet your seat for your stuff
- it come with ABS (front) with disc brake for front & rear
- digital instrument cluster with a lot of information
- keyless start. No more messing with keys, just keep in your bag/pocket
- abundance of parts/accessories
- cheap roadtax rm2 only

The not-so-good part:
- at RM12K-RM13K price, it is quite expensive for a 150cc scooter. But is is very popular though, i still see so many people buying it
- i read that this scooter top speed is quite low, around 100-110 km/h only.
- footwell is not flat since the fuel tank is there
- it is an open secret that scooter maintenance is always higher than moped (belting, thick tyres)

For your budget, there are actually a lot of choices for scooter, even Modenas Elegan 250/WMoto250i is under RM20K. But those scooters are really big & heavy to use around town. Sensible option is to go for Honda/Yamaha as they are reputable brand & easier to source for parts. Easy to sell back too.
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Thanks for the reply.

After comparing specwise, a natural upgrade from the future would be the ADV150. I was hoping Boon Siew sold the PCX160, but cannot find it. While modenas is very value for money, does not make sense for me. 195 kg kerb weight in town. My future is just like 100kg ADV like 120 kg.. ADV cons are almost similar to my Honda Future 125. Mine around 100 km. In town, I am ok with this speed. Very rarely can use all this speed.

Between the Nmax and NVX, it looks like the NVX has a lot more going for it... but more expensive?

Not sure if there are others though.
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post May 29 2022, 08:34 AM

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Booked the ADV150 from Honda Impian.

Other places markup. Will wait then.
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post May 29 2022, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Strike Eureka @ May 29 2022, 04:44 PM)
OTR how much oh....
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13k.


QUOTE(ajaibman @ May 29 2022, 05:11 PM)
Wmoto ES250i.. just did a rest ride with Robert from IMoto up to gohtong.. that thing fast
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Seen it. Looks nice but closer inspection the materials are not as high quality as Honda. From spec also not impressive. Price is cheap though.

QUOTE(iambryan1234 @ May 29 2022, 06:39 PM)
How's the markup? Last I checked most places selling at around 15 to 16k.
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Honda impian is flagship dealer. Can only sell Honda motor. Got for 13k. But got 10 people queue. Maybe next 2 months.
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post May 30 2022, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(BlackBananaV6 @ May 30 2022, 11:12 AM)
I saw many honda Impian shop in Johor have stock of ADV150. Look around more perhaps?
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Too far from Kelantan. If there is stock and with shipping more expensive that what is offered here, then no point also.
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post May 30 2022, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(BlackBananaV6 @ May 30 2022, 01:04 PM)
Ahaa... Kelantan only has 2 Honda Impian X dealerships.
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Yes. KB only 1.

Another problem is there are lots of people requiring motorcycle since that is the most common mode of transport. Imagine NMAX, NVX out of stock. Only Wmoto and Y15. Modenas low cc models. I don't mind waiting, not paying premium price
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post Aug 5 2022, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(albertpcl @ Aug 5 2022, 02:51 PM)
nmax waiting list damn 9 long, easily wait 3-5 month
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QUOTE(iOnine @ Aug 5 2022, 02:53 PM)
if you want bigger scooter.

go for MODENAS ELEGAN 250
shud be around 13-15k range.

its a KYMCO rebadge. everything KYMCO xcept for the stickers is modenas.
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QUOTE(BlackBananaV6 @ Aug 5 2022, 04:28 PM)
SYM Jet X 150 looks quite nice also
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Thanks all for the suggestions. I finally settled on a used Honda Adv 150. Sellers house is like 6 km from my house. 1 year old 3.6k km mileage, Rm 10.6k. All accessories included. My rm100 deposit for new adv burned.

I really like buying used. No need to babysit engine and get discount and free accessories.
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post Aug 6 2022, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(BlackBananaV6 @ Aug 6 2022, 02:10 PM)
Sounds like a very good deal. I myself have a Honda PCX150 which shared many engine parts (and the same keyless) with your ADV150, mine is 4 years old now and already clocked 44,xxx km and still running like new.

You should claim back the deposit, the shop should only forfeit it if they have a stock ready for you, IMHO.
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The resit stated that non refundable deposit. The shop also mentioned when I wanted to book that the deposit was non refundable. I guess they know how to make money since motorcycle will deliver late. Also, they mentioned the that if there is a price hike, it will be passed to the customer. 12.8k was the stated price, but may change later. All other places, deposit is refundable.

I see this dealer as malice. 1. Non refundable deposit. 2.can hike price at will later especially if the customer is desperate. I'd rather stick it to them by buying used.

On a more general note, motorcycle dealers are free to do what they want. Not abiding to RRP like cars and can take all makes. A popular model like nmax, nvx, adv can put high mark up.
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post Sep 2 2022, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(nicholasking @ Sep 1 2022, 05:53 PM)
I don't mind to pay for price hike if they can proof me distributor increased the price.Motorcycle market like a hooligan market place. Motorcycle suka suka mark up the selling price themselves. Ee Tiong even offered me RM16k for Adv150. That's the highest ever quote I received.
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That is why, better buy used well maintained.
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