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post Sep 27 2007, 04:30 AM


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I am opening this thread becuz i feel that there's a sense tat msia's sports is kinda declining... well, we might be able to say some sports are actually showin gud results....eg: squash, badminton, bowling

but let's face it, most of da sports are goin nowhere!!! and it's sad to say tat malaysia football is declinin to a point where we were even beaten by our small neighbour singapore (no offence to singapore though)..c'mon we consider once many yrs back then, da best in asia and even in da world!!
(We even came close to beat ENG aint we)

So, post plz....gv ur opinion! help make msia sports growwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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post Sep 27 2007, 05:35 AM


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1st, athlete must change their attitude .. None of Malaysian except Nicol David can maintain their performance .. They will 'big head' when achieve something .. that da fact!
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dun eat alot belacan.

So this mentality is better.

After win dun make the nose high and long.
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QUOTE(dazzle @ Sep 27 2007, 06:39 AM)
dun eat alot belacan.

So this mentality is better.

After win dun make the nose high and long.
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belacan? lol...i dun think tis affects....hahaha...

anyway, let's brainstorm some ideas of hw to IMPROVE the sports in msia.... instead of focusin so much on wat's BAD about our athlete....

kesian da athletes oso lar... gv them some chance, they are human beings after all... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(legion07 @ Sep 27 2007, 06:35 AM)
1st, athlete must change their attitude .. None of Malaysian except Nicol David can maintain their performance .. They will 'big head' when achieve something .. that da fact!
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yes nicol david is really an exceptional. she's really focus in her sports... and her mentality, omg...damn strong... she's one of the best examples for all athletes to follow..... with a great attitude... msia athletes can achieve great things!!
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They present for the country is just to aim the money award from goverment.

After get the 1st place, they feel proud.

Our government cannot petty them.

Let them fight for their own.

No manja manja business.
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QUOTE(dazzle @ Sep 27 2007, 06:47 AM)
They present for the country is just to aim the money award from goverment.

After get the 1st place, they feel proud.

Our government cannot petty them.

Let them fight for their own.

No manja manja business.
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Is money really a factor in sports performance? actually there's a debate over this... shud goverment gv lower incentive or lower alowance in order to motivate athletes fight for their own money by winning prize money in tournaments? do you think tis will work?

don't u think by decreasing the money, athletes will get demotivated instead? they will feel no point involving in sports if they cant get a living...lolz


Added on September 27, 2007, 5:57 amsome ppl say... athlete mz have passion their sports... money wont be a factor if u they really passion in da sports......thus, they will be more successful!!

who supports tis saying?

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its the mind off all malaysian,our lifestyle...change that first

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1 - Get politics out of sports

2 - Change the mentality of the athletes - juara kampung, playing for $$$

3 - Have better grass root development program

4 - Get corruption out of sports governing bodies

Just a few that i can think off.
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i think da media of msia shud help to promote sports for da country as well... y cant they do more advertisements about sports like hw da western countries do... for example, help make some athletes famous.. make them as da icons and as an example for kids to follow.... the ppl wud luv it..

all the gud athletes in da western countries has so many commercials... which i think that they nt oni boost da sales of da brnad.... it oso will promote da sports in an indirect way... ppl will idolise them.... trying to pick up dat particular sport and one day become like them...

so i think... more commercials about sports will definitely help to improve da sports in msia... better still, create icons and idols ..... we all know wat the media is capable of.... da impact is huge!!
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post Sep 27 2007, 04:13 PM


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How to improve ah? Government so bloody kedekut in sponsoring, how to improve and how to win gold medals? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(zeist @ Sep 27 2007, 05:13 PM)
How to improve ah? Government so bloody kedekut in sponsoring, how to improve and how to win gold medals?  shakehead.gif
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actually frankly speaking.... da government has a huge budget for da sports ady..
i jst tink tat da money has nt been used wisely.. one of da sports tat used a lot of money is football!!
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the system of training and finding talent sucks.

even new zealand, where their local clubs are like worse than secondary school standard have higher FIFA ranking in football than us doh.gif
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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Sep 27 2007, 05:31 PM)
the system of training and finding talent sucks.

even new zealand, where their local clubs are like worse than secondary school standard have higher FIFA ranking in football than us doh.gif
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new zealand ranks higher than msia? OMG.....hmmm..... then pls gv some ideas for msia plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
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post Sep 27 2007, 05:12 PM


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1s admit we are lousy then only can improve , as long we delude ourselves that we OK we will get EVEN worse .

good , carry on !
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post Sep 27 2007, 05:18 PM


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1.Genetic modification,

2.selective breeding,

3.human import.


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genetic modification? get more foreigners to marry wif msians?
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post Sep 27 2007, 10:56 PM


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Nicold david is one tip top athlete Malaysia can produce i respect her much cos she always show best performance in every single game i guess that sign of good sport genetic like World class Golfer Tiger Wood every single tournament he do it at the top best rclxms.gif

I guess genetic come to life where nicol and Tiger have in Common

1)Genetic modication =Both is mixxed
2)Selective breeding =Both dad choose the good gene child to perform in Squash
3)Human import =I guess he/her dad and mom are import one smile.gif

Before this in golf there no Black man but after Tiger joined he outperform every single golfer(white,asian,hispanic) and become the riches and most respectable athlete thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(shoemaker @ Sep 27 2007, 11:56 PM)
Nicold david is one tip top athlete Malaysia can produce i respect her much cos she always show best performance in every single game i guess that sign of good sport genetic like World class Golfer Tiger Wood every single tournament he do it at the top best rclxms.gif

I guess genetic come to life where nicol and Tiger have in Common

1)Genetic modication =Both is mixxed
2)Selective breeding =Both dad choose the good gene child to perform in Squash
3)Human import =I guess he/her dad and mom are import one smile.gif

Before this in golf there no Black man but after Tiger joined he outperform every single golfer(white,asian,hispanic) and become the riches and most respectable athlete  thumbup.gif
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nice facts there man.... thumbup.gif
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Talent and then hard working as an athlete.
Start from school, state and then national.
Finally, international.

Sacrificed a lot.
Time and money.
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believe me , soon , the ' good ' sports will dies also .

It's inevitable , we have sunk so low that another 2 notches down won't matter.
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 27 2007, 05:56 AM)
Is money really a factor in sports performance? actually there's a debate over this... shud goverment gv lower incentive or lower alowance in order to motivate athletes fight for their own money by winning prize money in tournaments? do you think tis will work?

don't u think by decreasing the money, athletes will get demotivated instead? they will feel no point involving in sports if they cant get a living...lolz


Added on September 27, 2007, 5:57 amsome ppl say... athlete mz have passion their sports... money wont be a factor if u they really passion in da sports......thus, they will be more successful!!

who supports tis saying?
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1 thing bollocks.

put it this way, money plays a huge factor one would be kidding themselves if money dont make a diff. put it this way lar, a career in sports in malaysia is super hard and most "talents" would shy away from going full pro. passion doesnt put food on the table.
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do u guys think tat if zidane comes to msia and takeover as coach in da msia football team... will msia football team and sports become world beater? is there a possibility? ( tis is only IF msia can afford zidane's wages)
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I dont think the problem lies only at the coach. Most importantly, the management must be top class.
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Badminton, FTW! I'm proud. biggrin.gif
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shud we use more local coach instead of foreigners? do u think locals are as gud or better than foreigners?
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 28 2007, 08:09 PM)
shud we use more local coach instead of foreigners? do u think locals are as gud or better than foreigners?
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50% 50%. biggrin.gif
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Once upon a time, there was a guy name Alex Yoong...
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Sep 28 2007, 10:24 PM)
Once upon a time, there was a guy name Alex Yoong...
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lolz...u make me laugh like hell lar.... by da way.. alex is doin well in da f4 nw ma..so wish him luck lor.. thumbup.gif
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Alex Yoong at least he get to join A1, how about Karamjit Singh?
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 28 2007, 09:41 PM)
lolz...u make me laugh like hell lar.... by da way.. alex is doin well in da f4 nw ma..so wish him luck lor.. thumbup.gif
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I know I know lol tongue.gif

How about our national bowling team? Shalin Zulkifli is an icon.
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The lady bowler? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Sep 28 2007, 09:24 PM)
Once upon a time, there was a guy name Alex Yoong...
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He is really not that bad of a driver.

Improve Malaysian Sports....how about a change of diet.

Tiap-tiap hari belasah nasi lemak 2 bungkus doh.gif die lar
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QUOTE(seydee @ Sep 29 2007, 06:49 PM)
He is really not that bad of a driver.

Improve Malaysian Sports....how about a change of diet.

Tiap-tiap hari belasah nasi lemak 2 bungkus doh.gif die lar
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at least he become the one and only,malaysian F1 driver dude... rclxms.gif
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Come on . let's face it , MY can only produce so called world champs in minority sports.

How many countries play squash outside of the commonwealth ?

If Russia , USA , China , E.Europe , S.America took the game seriously - you think nicole would do so well . I don't think so ....

Same with Badminton , No Russia , E.Europe , S.America so the acheivemnt is only marginally better.

Bowling of course is even more minority.





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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Sep 29 2007, 07:47 PM)
Come on  . let's face it , MY can only produce so called world champs in minority sports.

How many countries play squash outside of the commonwealth ?

If Russia , USA , China , E.Europe , S.America took the game seriously - you think nicole would do so well . I don't think so ....

Same with Badminton , No Russia , E.Europe , S.America so the acheivemnt is only marginally better.

Bowling of course is even more minority.
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QUOTE(seydee @ Sep 29 2007, 07:49 PM)
He is really not that bad of a driver.

Improve Malaysian Sports....how about a change of diet.

Tiap-tiap hari belasah nasi lemak 2 bungkus doh.gif die lar
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yup.... tis is a gud point here...i do strongly recommend malaysians athletes to pay more attention to the way they eat and look after their diet properly... imo, truely world class athlete will definitely know wat food is gud or bad for it's body. I think da government or da sports body shud start implementing a healthy and sports specific diet for da athletes to follow. it will definitely helps...

btw, nasi lemak is not oni da bad food... cut down da McD, bak kut teh pls.... drool.gif

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Thats too many ways to improve sports in M'sia.....
We are lack of facilities, coachs, mentality... everything! We need to start from scratch if we are to improve anything.
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Last time I watch this group of Lion dancers on TV, they are seeking help from the public to get sponsorship to go to Taiwan, participate in this competition, but government not supportive at all.

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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Sep 29 2007, 08:47 PM)
Come on  . let's face it , MY can only produce so called world champs in minority sports.

How many countries play squash outside of the commonwealth ?

If Russia , USA , China , E.Europe , S.America took the game seriously - you think nicole would do so well . I don't think so ....

Same with Badminton , No Russia , E.Europe , S.America so the acheivemnt is only marginally better.

Bowling of course is even more minority.
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you might have a point there bt gosh y are u so negative about da sports potential in msia? pls be more supportive.... squash and badminton should be credit for their achievements....
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Lolz, don't forget about the lawn bowl... I never heard of this game until Malaysia won a gold medal from it. =)
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Lawn bowl can play one ah? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 30 2007, 03:32 AM)
you might have a point there bt gosh y are u so negative about da sports potential in msia? pls be more supportive.... squash and badminton should be credit for their achievements....
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I am being realistic not negative . No point calling a piece of scrap metal gold . No matter how much you talk positive about it it will still be scrap metal .

We have to admit reality before we can do anything never mind improve.

The problem with our minor " acheivements " is that the cynical and cowardly among us will use as a excuse not to do anything about improving, - " seee malaysia not bad what ! " .



The truth = Squash & badminton are minor sports , based on other racquet sports like tennis , if the E.Europeans , USA and S.America played squash , nicole would be lucky to make top 10. ( Of respect to her for winning , she still has to get on court and do it so I suppose thanks for small mercies)

Look at the way they have taken tennis by storm , in a few years there are now many top E.European women players . 10 years ago there was hardly any.

That my friend is real improvement and don't say oh big country etc .

Croatia and Serbia , Czech are small countries and they have been through a WAR !


Badminton would be only slightly better. stop kidding yourself.

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World most popular sports will be soccer, basketball, tennis, volleyball, rugby, golf (not sure whether this should be considered as a sport)..... Badminton has a huge following in Asia, but in America they don't consider it as big sport.

We have not seen any major success in all these major sports. At least Thailand has Paradorn Scrichapan is who once a top 10 player in tennis and the country treats him as national hero. We have Nicole David, but should we rest on laurels because of that?

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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Sep 30 2007, 03:57 PM)
I am being realistic not negative . No point calling a piece of scrap metal gold . No matter how much you talk positive about it it will still be scrap metal .

We have to admit reality before we can do anything never mind improve.

The problem with our minor " acheivements " is that the cynical and cowardly among us will use as a excuse not to do anything about improving, - " seee malaysia not bad what ! " .

The truth = Squash & badminton are minor sports , based on other racquet sports like tennis , if the E.Europeans , USA and S.America played squash , nicole would be lucky to make top 10. ( Of respect to her for winning , she still has to get on court and do it so I suppose thanks for small mercies)

Look at the way they have taken tennis by storm , in a few years there are now many top E.European women players . 10 years ago there was hardly any.

That my friend is real improvement and don't say oh big country etc .

Croatia and Serbia , Czech are small countries and they have been through a WAR !
Badminton would be only slightly better. stop kidding yourself.
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so guys, let's say given a period of 10 years time....do u think we can produce some great breakthrough in MAJOR sports as well... wat preparations and actions we nid to execute in tis period of time if we really wan to get some gud resutls? hmm.gif

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het bro.... i m trying to offend u ...hope u understand notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

so guys, let's say given a period of 10 years time....do u think we can produce some great breakthrough in MAJOR sports as well... wat preparations and actions we nid to execute in tis period of time if we really wan to get some gud resutls? hmm.gif
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No offence taken bro , I was just talking aloud to the group as a whole smile.gif .

Well , The main problems as I can see are motivation among the youth and a system that does not spot and develop the best we have.

Again I have to hark back to the old days when Gunalan , Mokthar , James Wong , Wong Chun Wah etc were so great at what they did .

Why ? they were motivated . why ? because 1st and foremost they loved their sport , money was a distant second .

So how to motivate young people ? The buck stops with the authorities , stop paying over the top money for substandard rubbish like our football .

Return to the day of Mokthar and co. when they were not paid directly for the sport but instead given jobs within companies which had teams in the local leagues. This way the player still has to work for a living and his job is quite secure but it also depends on his sport performance , and this will only be good if he really likes the game he plays . It will sort out the genuine from the money faced morons.

this way rewards the sports person but in way that is not grossly commercial which is disproportionate to his place in society.

Families and schools need to bring back the honour of sports , of small things like being selected for your school club , class whatever and . This will tie with the above as it reinforces the love of the game devoid of money sh*t . In the old days winning was the game was the " jackpot " , there was very little money involved.

So parents have to buck up also and stop being vain and naive and promote a sporting culture to their kids. In fact , very stupid to think that in today's world , eventually if you are good enough then venture overseas where you can really make good money. ( Yes good money is not the same as what we have now - throwing money at them ! )


Like I say he would be secure but still humble and hungry for the game if he is genuine of course , if not then he will be kicked out and nothing is lost , the nation has not lost xxx$ in investment and he has not lost his livelyhood.

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No offence taken bro , I was just talking aloud to the group as a whole smile.gif .

Well , The main problems as I can see are motivation among the youth and a system that does not spot and develop the best we have.

Again I have to hark back to the old days when Gunalan , Mokthar , James Wong , Wong Chun Wah etc were so great at what they did .

Why ? they were motivated . why ? because 1st and foremost they loved their sport , money was a distant second .

So how to motivate young people ? The buck stops with the authorities , stop paying over the top money for substandard rubbish like our football .

Return to the day of Mokthar and co. when they were not paid directly for the sport but instead given jobs within companies which had teams in the local leagues. This way the player still has to work for a living and his job is quite secure but it also depends on his sport performance , and this will only be good if he really likes the game he plays . It will sort out the genuine from the money faced morons.

this way  rewards the sports person but in way that is not grossly commercial  which is disproportionate to his place in society.

Families and schools need to bring back the honour of sports , of small things like being selected for your school  club , class whatever and . This will tie with the above as it reinforces the love of the game devoid of money sh*t . In the old days winning was the  game was the  " jackpot "  , there was very little money involved.

So parents have to buck up also and stop being vain and naive and promote a sporting culture to their kids. In fact , very stupid to think that in today's world , eventually if you are good enough then venture overseas where you can really make good money. ( Yes good money is not the same as what we have now - throwing money at them ! )
Like I say he would be secure but still humble and hungry for the game if he is genuine of course , if not then he will be kicked out and nothing is lost , the nation has not lost xxx$ in investment and he has not lost his livelyhood.

Sports council of Malaysia - you know who to call ......... ! 

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tat's a freaking good point bro..... for me i think da culture in msia nid to change for da good of sports.... ppl nid to be more supportive...n ya.. parents nid to show their support towards the kids!! ppl mz start feelin tat sports is sumthing important... n it can be considered as a profession..in fact in usa sports is da second largest industry in da country....
change da way ppl thinks, change da way ppl percieve sports.... sure we can improve 1 day
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By the way I don't condone what is going on overseas where the wages of footballers have been so ridiculous it is destroying the honour , pageantry of the game to the state where we get the top players selecting to perform 100% maybe 25-30 games a season , whereas their team plays 60 !

We are effectively getting ripped off . This in turn makes the viewer cynical and they will only watch certain games at certain prices , you see the empty seats at so many EPL games.

Even the local pondan glamour fans are turning away from the screen - who watches Everton v Sunderland or Boro v Fulham .

better in the old days when local TV just showed the one best game on SAT night - eg ) Liverpool v MU , and the whole week everyone looked forward to it and when it cane it was a special occasion.

Now what is it ? nothing , nobody cares if they miss it or not , the top play each other so many times and there so much football on.

They need to cap the Eur players salary in a big way for similar reasons as locally.


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c'mon keep da post comin.... wakaka....

any1 reckon we can top da overall gold medalist in korat sea games?
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no way. Impossible to beat the mighty china . Not that i am not supportive of my own country. Just feeling that, we are not on that par yet
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Haunkiem, you do raise fairly good points and your observation in terms of how parents play an important role in this development

To further reiterate the point, i see that the mentality being instilled is education, work. I was from MSN hence i know how parents tend to limit their children's potential by sendin them to tuitions and not letting them concentrate on their own things.

Looking at how countries like US/UK/European power house parents living a "care" free life, it is within vivid memories that this little things accounts for big things.

This are questions raised numerous times when i was playing in MSN for several competitions overseas, why we tend to falter big time when pressure and expectation arises.

I've always loved when my dad says , "Its all in the mind". Improve sports, fix your mentality and the paradigm in which you believe in. Let passion and motivation take over, and not let commercial, fame and $$$ bore them down.


But when it comes to big sports, what can be defined of a big sport. Sports in general are all big only when it comes to media wide attention, and when sponsors come in heavily with their cash. Add that to public attention, that makes a big sport. I'll give a fair share of compliment to those that are doing well in squash, badminton or bowling, because they shouldn't be deprived of this just because the sport they excel in do not reap that much publicity/reward/whatever you call it
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well... just follow myteam step...
this time one myteam for every sport. one for badminton, one for bowling... one for hockey....bla...bla... bla.... how is that for thought? surely a waste! laugh.gif
honestly, our sports are in bad state. except for squash, bowling, badminton and lawn bowl. based on the past standard, sports like hockey and football are down.
government can only do their best by mixing politics and sports together.. and pampered those winning in certain field doh.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif . the rest will be depending on the initiatives from the athletes themselves. their willingness to win!!!
where there is a will, there is a way. malaysia boleh instead of malaysia boh liau whistling.gif
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Malaysian athlete need to improve their teamwork.. malaysian athlete are really good in single event(squash, badminton, shooting, driving, bowling), but really poor in team sport(hockey, football, rugby, volleyball, netball n so on.)..
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need to train youngsters since their very young age, and set up many speical clubs or schools to train the talent people!
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I thnk malaysia need to focus on sports that CAN really makes profit. They just focus too much on football, but it isn't going anywhere further. They should focus more on squash,badminton and other sports that malaysian are good at. Stop those MyTeam or whatever, i don't think malaysian football team will go any further.

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Haunkiem, you do raise fairly good points and your observation in terms of how parents play an important role in this development

To further reiterate the point, i see that the mentality being instilled is education, work. I was from MSN hence i know how parents tend to limit their children's potential by sendin them to tuitions and not letting them concentrate on their own things.

Looking at how countries like US/UK/European power house parents living a "care" free life, it is within vivid memories that this little things accounts for big things.

This are questions raised numerous times when i was playing in MSN for several competitions overseas, why we tend to falter big time when pressure and expectation arises.

I've always loved when my dad says , "Its all in the mind". Improve sports, fix your mentality and the paradigm in which you believe in. Let passion and motivation take over, and not let commercial, fame and $$$ bore them down.
But when it comes to big sports, what can be defined of a big sport. Sports in general are all big only when it comes to media wide attention, and when sponsors come in heavily with their cash. Add that to public attention, that makes a big sport. I'll give a fair share of compliment to those that are doing well in squash, badminton or bowling, because they shouldn't be deprived of this just because the sport they excel in do not reap that much publicity/reward/whatever you call it
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I think that squash, badminton are receiving their fair share of media coverage and yes I did say they did well but I caution against using their success as an excuse to relak and say " we are doing OK generally " , when clearly we are not .


We need to learn why less advanced countries like Serbia and Croatia can excel sports when we cannot . We should get more coaching links with them instead of the usual UK / Western contacts.

the East European are $ for $ better athletes and will more likely impart their knowledge for a cheaper sum .


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MyTeam is a brilliant concept that not only brought out the talents in youngsters but also harness the skill and the rightful mind of a footballer. Perhaps in MyTeam, a fair chance is given to all races.
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apparently, there is no way to improves anymore. we're almost to the limit where the large sum of money chanelled to sports organization end up in the hands of unresponsible people which are only have they own interest in mind. tongue.gif laugh.gif
become 'aiya! apa macam mau improve, peruntukan tidak cukup laugh.gif laugh.gif
those really deserved it end up with less or zero doh.gif

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I thnk malaysia need to focus on sports that CAN really makes profit. They just focus too much on football, but it isn't going anywhere further. They should focus more on squash,badminton and other sports that malaysian are good at. Stop those MyTeam or whatever, i don't think malaysian football team will go any further.

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Wateva the critics are, football is still the main sport in malaysia. If Malaysia football is able to crawl its way to world cup, it will be looked high upon compared to other sports although badminton and squash are number one in malaysia. But like all others have said, reality hits hard. Our football still sux.
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We should've look at how developed nations like Australia or France improved their sports. The most important part is the professionalism at the sport bodies structure themselves. If the sport bodies keep bickering with themselves, how does the sport expected to improve?
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Nope , can't agree there Fr and Aus are 1st world nations we are not .

the better role models will be the Ex Soviet block , development wise they are roughly in the same mould as us but in sports they are world beaters - they can certainly teach us a thing or two.


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IMO we need shorter working hours -7 hrs maybe like in Germany. With shorter working hours people has plenty to do with extracurricular activities i.e send their children to sports practice, watch the weekdays night football matches without feeling guilt to wake up too early the next morning, participate in sports, having a regular sports training, etc.
I think a lot of good would come if we had shorter working hours - my 2 sens.
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find more sponsorships, MORE $$$ MORE PPL interested to join. More sports session during skol. More SPORT CHANNELS>!
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find more sponsorships, MORE $$$ MORE PPL interested to join. More sports session during skol. More SPORT CHANNELS>!
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in our country, even if you're world number 1 in squash or country's top rally driver, it will still kinda hard to get a big sponsor from this certain quarter doh.gif the sickening fact.
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I agree with the shorter working hours, or actually study hour.. Let the kids to have more time to play sports.
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hehehe~ ask goverment make more sport complex. especially squash court.. and provide us free court.. i knw its imposible.


Added on November 24, 2007, 12:55 pmi like those unpopular sport jz like squash.. lol.. in malaysian still oki~ i m glad of tat

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hot topic..
actually,it easy..
sportman need to be very2 hardworking and dont be lazy..
the prob in msia is our athlete is veru2 lazy and no discipline..
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After reading all the post I can see that we wont be going anywhere if we still hoping some funding form the goverment or building more sports complex. As a private coach I really dont think what u all suggest will improve our sports. The current sports fail cos we rely too much on the government. Yes i can say that its also hard to get sponsor from the cooporate. But the thing we need now are very supportive parent to fund their kids. Look at some of our current sportsmen and sportswomen like Ong Beng Hee and Nicol David, when they were in their developing stage its their parent their fund their trainning and their oversea competition.

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Most malaysians wont sacrifice their future for sport. I would say most of them just play sport for the sake of health/hobby/pass time. Like football, most malays dominate it during my secondary school. Even those chinese that has passion in football also didnt join my school football club. 1 of the problem i think. So there is many crouching tiger, hidden dragon in malaysia.


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hehehe~ ask goverment make more sport complex. especially squash court.. and provide us free court.. i knw its imposible.


Added on November 24, 2007, 12:55 pmi like those unpopular sport jz like squash.. lol.. in malaysian still oki~ i m glad  of tat
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I agree with the shorter working hours, or actually study hour.. Let the kids to have more time to play sports.
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IF the kids actually do study, it be alright. Give them 100 hours to study, they play video games 90 hours and read in 10 hours. Use the 90 hours to play. Play in your free time.
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its all about balance. But if those kids really have talents in sport then i think its fine if they spent more time on it.
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post Jan 15 2008, 09:35 PM


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Reduce corruption first...then more money will be allocated to developing sports...
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post Jan 21 2008, 06:11 PM


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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Dec 10 2007, 08:45 PM)
kick all the fuking kings outta each sporting bodies especially FAM bruce.gif no wonder we play like a headless chicken in korat SEA games n the 4-0 win over laos is just pure 99% luck sleep.gif
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post Jan 21 2008, 07:57 PM


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all the athlethes stop eating nasik lemak and roti canai teh tarik etc etc
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post Feb 22 2008, 03:59 AM


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i think the problem is majority of our athletes is aiming for money only..they do not play for their beloved country..
i also heard that some of them is taking some sort of 'drugs' or sumthin to get strong enough on field and that is not good for sport industry..
smoking is another problem,they'll get exhausted faster
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After reading all the post I can see that we wont be going anywhere if we still hoping some funding form the goverment or building more sports complex. As a private coach I really dont think what u all suggest will improve our sports. The current sports fail cos we rely too much on the government. Yes i can say that its also hard to get sponsor from the cooporate. But the thing we need now are very supportive parent to fund their kids. Look at some of our current sportsmen and sportswomen like Ong Beng Hee and Nicol David, when they were in their developing stage its their parent their fund their trainning and their oversea competition.
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sport start from school , but the majority teachers at school is over weight , and don't do sport ! have much can the sport teachers do !
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Actually there are alot of factors involved. A small step might be encouraging student to take parts in sports. Nowadays schools make academic too important and dont give freedom to sports clubs to held events. this would be this best long term solution.
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if our state sports association can choose fairly i guess it will be good haha..
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I think its all about attitude of the players...if they there are willing to work hard they can win..
but nowdays players look 4 money..yeah money is a factor..but if we but ahead a bit loving n wining for country
then money all of this all this can be change..
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take out the corrupted and double standard officials!!

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I think it's the mentality of the players that is important. And it's really up to them to shape their career. Like hafiz for instance, he once a very elite badminton player, but after winning all england, lepak all the time lo... until only recently he deiced to tune up his skills again...flex.gif
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QUOTE(dzness @ May 9 2008, 05:32 PM)
I think it's the mentality of the players that is important. And it's really up to them to shape their career. Like hafiz for instance, he once a very elite badminton player, but after winning all england, lepak all the time lo... until only recently he deiced to tune up his skills again...flex.gif
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same thing goes to the double players..... sweat.gif
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Alex Yoong at least he get to join A1, how about Karamjit Singh?
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karamjit singh got no sponsor d...
just bcoz he is "singh", nobody wanna sponsor his career. whistling.gif

back to our topic, in my opinion...
parents should be more open to let their children involve in sports..
most of the students in school, they r very active and achieve a lot of success in sports..
however.. after finishin their secondary school, they give up totally on sports and focus
on their study.. it's good that they focus on their studies.. but.. the country will
lost a lot of talents... rolleyes.gif

nowadays, most of the athletes got no spirit when they represent our country...
bcoz.. they already got a lot of incentives given by the government of their sports organizations..

for football~~ just forget it la..
Malaysia football team can never improve if the "big head" in FAM still controllin the organization... cool2.gif


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post May 11 2008, 01:12 AM


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I think everything should be started at an early ages.The spirit of fight in the sports have to be instilled in the players since early ages.

I saw a lot of parents nowadays sending their kids for a sport activities and even hiring a coach for them. That's really impressive.
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QUOTE(naspek @ May 10 2008, 12:00 PM)
karamjit singh got no sponsor d...
just bcoz he is "singh", nobody wanna sponsor his career.  whistling.gif

back to our topic, in my opinion...
parents should be more open to let their children involve in sports..
most of the students in school, they r very active and achieve a lot of success in sports..
however.. after finishin their secondary school, they give up totally on sports and focus
on their study.. it's good that they focus on their studies.. but.. the country will
lost a lot of talents...  rolleyes.gif

nowadays, most of the athletes got no spirit when they represent our country...
bcoz.. they already got a lot of incentives given by the government of their sports organizations..

for football~~ just forget it la..
Malaysia football team can never improve if the "big head" in FAM still controllin the organization...  cool2.gif
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alex young can in F1 Previously also hav our big brother MAGNUM.
i agree becos he hav singh.
so pity.



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bring the politician out of sports for a start..
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government should subsidies for coach trained players. see, one hour badminton training cause like rm30. how to live like that? to put to it, your skills don't improve much until a year elapse, so, well, waste of money. what incentives are there?
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too many homework to do.. no time to play.... (destroy homework)
summore sports eat too much money... racket for few hundred bucks.. then rent court oso eat$$... oso need time...summore hard find opponent...
only if rackets and rental were cheaper...
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why county that have less sports budget can produce high class sportsman...but we, with millions of ringgit still can put good results like soccerla..sukan teras..so..money in not everything.....its about mentality that are not strong...still 'manja'...hehehe
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