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 Notice many msian parent send kids to, international school: good kah ?

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post May 17 2022, 03:24 PM

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Primary school in sjkc
Secondary school in
1 chinese independant (独中)or
2 gov chinese school (eg Catholic High) or
3 sekolah kluster kecemerlangan or
4 gov english school with long history (eg St John/methodist) or
5 good private (non commercialized) school (eg Sri KL)

Best of both world and no need to pay thru nose for fees.

Avoid "shoplot" schools and commercialized international/private school
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post May 17 2022, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ May 17 2022, 03:28 PM)
Senior Middle for Sri KL is about 40k or more a year.

St John still good ?

chinese independent - 50 people per class ? depend if ur kid can pass entrance exam.

sekolah cermerlang ? - this one good, but that doesn't avoid the occassional ridiculous education change of gomen would propose.
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40k is still much cheaper than many international school which can go up to 100k or more. But SriKL is very reputable.

St John was attended by our ex-PM. If it is good enough for PM, should be good enough for rest of us.

chinese independant is very brutal. High competition. But it will help children to be independent and street smart. Not to mention able to master mandarin and english.

If those famous school is too expensive or too far from house, can choose nearby sekolah cemerlang. At least got some quality control.

All in all, no perfect school, only the one that is suitable for your situation.
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post May 17 2022, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ May 17 2022, 03:30 PM)
the cheapest around for senior middle is 40k a year and some range 50k-200k per year.

and we still got to save for their university education.

for nons, the possibility of not enter local university is very high depending the course you want to take up.
nons grades must be very gooding because entrance for nons is very narrow to local uni.
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Can consider convert and potong, maybe get better chances
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post Mar 8 2023, 11:03 PM

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Private or international school bad ROI

Best combo is srjkc and smk(chinese), or

srjkc then famous english school (eg St joseph, St xavier)

For pre-U, go for STPM or Matriculasi.

Invest those money in good divident stocks for university
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post Mar 8 2023, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(MiniCooperS1275 @ Mar 7 2023, 09:58 PM)
Let me lay out some realities for you:

If you think that just learning Chinese up to Standard 6 at SRJK© is going to equip you with sufficient proficiency in the language to be able to "have an advantage with foreign companies that invest in PRC", you are deluding yourself. While I do not deny that learning Chinese up to Standard 6 at SRJK© brings your ability in Chinese to a relatively good level, it is not enough for professional purposes. You will not even have sufficient vocabulary to make a boardroom presentation or engage clients, and you will find yourself code-switching with English and fumbling through Google Translate for every second or third word that you encounter. Would you say that "learning English until Standard 6 is sufficient to engage the English-speaking market and workforce"? If the answer is obviously "no", then why the double standards? I know people who have this same mindset - after their kids completed 6 years of SRJK©, off they went to international school. Guess what: Fast-forward 1-2 years later, and they could barely string a sentence together in Chinese. Even worse if the family does not speak Chinese at home.

If you want to learn Chinese to a usable level and retain it for life, then there are no two ways about it than to walk through the established systems: One is to continue learning it at government secondary school, preferably at an SMJK© where SPM Chinese is compulsory, or at an SMK that offers the subject (and even then the absolute minimum is to learn it to Form 3 before you decide you want to drop the subject), Otherwise, and even better, go to a Chinese Independent High School. Don't even start with me on international schools offering "Chinese elective classes in Year X or Year Y" - you will learn the same stuff that you learned in SRJK©, and you will retain nothing.
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The best combo is sjkc and SMK©. Good balance of bahasa, english and chinese till SPM. And most students will speak in English and Mandarin in school too. Having good SPM BM will also increase the chance of entering matriculasi and stpm which will enable one to enter critical courses such as medicine and dentistry in Public unis, saving even more money.

Comparing to Chinese independent schools, students usually will be good in Mandarin, but weak in English and BM. Even with SPM BM, entering public uni will be very difficult.
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post Mar 9 2023, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Mar 9 2023, 12:13 AM)
Yeah but imagine go back kampung flaunting kid going to international school end up in some arts course hippie ....neighbour kid study stpm end up becoming brain surgeon

Luxury yes.. but know when and who to flaunt to... Don't flaunt then malu sendiri.
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Other than those "old school" private school such as Cempaka or SriKL subang, many new international schools are actually not up to par, and mostly just business oriented. Meaning, they treat students like clients, then actually treating them like students. Some international schools even operated in shoplots...

So unless can enter proper international schools, better to just go to a real school, sk, srjk, smk, smjkc and independent school.
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post Mar 9 2023, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Mar 9 2023, 08:38 AM)
private school is good ROI, if children go to singapore or overseas to work.
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Many people working as professionals in Singapore or overseas also from SMK or chinese independent schools.
Nobody cares what kindi, primary or secondary schools you went to.

Quality education is quality education. No need branded.

 

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