8k for 12 years working is kinda low for Klang Valley.
20% is not a lot and software developer doesn't see this anyway.
If you have the skill/stack, they will pay you.

I m <=8k as well.
Worked for 5 years and is my 4th job.
IT consultant

20% is quite low tbh for job hopping.

You should be asking at least 30%.

My title is Junior. So it is not high at all. Just the skill set is specific and in the IT presales world is generally lack of people. Cause most IT people prefer to not deal with people and work at backend. Presales requires a skill set to deal with customer that is sometimes an idiot and demanding. Just like programmer dealing with Project Manager that promise everything.

Just to give you the flow.
Support Engineer <3.5k
Presales Consultant cum Support Engineer <4.5k
Sales Specialist <6k
Current <8k

Write above already lo. [start pay - last pay]
1st Job - Support Engineer [2.5k-3.5k] 1 Year before hop
2nd Job - Presales Consultant cum Support Engineer [3.8k-4.5k] 1.5 Year before hop
3rd Job - Sales Specialist [6k] 6 months before hop
4th Job - Consultant [7k-~8k] current

my last 2 job hopping was 53%~ and 37%~

and no im not kidding.

Min 30%.

TS, just ask for 30% and trust your own skill.

I got my recommendation from a headhunter, they help me propose 30% of my current and I have around 8~9 years of experience and finally, I got the offer.

Good to start high and try not to sell yourself too low. Some companies may have antiquated policies. Those are the type, unless you are desperate, you should avoid.

Ask for straight 40%
Then says negotiable...
So in the end would bet around 30% +/-
😁

No wonder you all are k/tards
First, getting high increment when you job hop is NOTHING to celebrate because it simply means that you were underpaid the whole time and therefore leaving money on the table. You are merely getting your market's worth.
2) Those of you who propose 20-30% hike when job hopping is, while can happen OCCASIONALLY, is unrealistic. Majority of the job hoppers in Malaysia get a few percent.
3) Those people who loudly and unashamedly reveal their pay in the internet are already high to begin with which they will use as an opportunity to humble brag. This creates sample bias.

20% - 50% increase is ok and normal. RM8k is not much these day.

There are factors of why the increments given are high, some of it are:
- High turn over rate, they need to maintain head count hence they would want to have a steady influx of people joining them filling the vacancy.
- High commitment for the work as you mentioned, usually it will cause high turn-over rate.
- Indeed, you are underpaid, so always check the market rate for the job you are applying for. I used multiple sources i searched online to get the idea.
- You are going vertical in the job grade ladder like a promotion, typically like from one job grade to another. In software company nowadays, Managers aren't necessarily higher level than like Staff/Principal Software Engineer or even as Software Architect. It is simply a different career path (one managerial, another as high rank Individual Contributor)
- Your previous company salary PIR (Pay in range) for the same job grade (like Senior Software Engineer, or SE III) are much lower than the other company's PIR. It largely depends on how strong financially the company is doing generally.
- Start-ups =/ I do notice start-ups offers really high salary jump to acquire talent, so in my opinion there are few things to check because it can be risky. One example the start up got large funding but yet to be profitable, and doing mass hiring. This means the cash-burn is really high. If operational cost outweigh the profit for a long time then you can anticipate company closure/retrench/etc.... It happened to a few of my friends before. On the bright side when you notice this is likely to happen, you have greater advantage to negotiate higher salary in a more stable company for a job hop.

Those are what I have in mind, of course there are more factors out there that you can do some research on

good to know that i'm not alone.

mine i think i'm enjoying the comfort zone. lol at myself

If you are an experienced person and you can demonstrate it in your interviews (esp with critical IT skillsets and management experience) please ask at least 50% increment, usually the company will try to nego lower than that.

But here are my salary changes when starting work in 2017 until now. (I work as a software developer - backend focus)

2017 - RM2800 (fresh grad, Melaka)
2018 - RM3500 (KL, changed company)
2020 - RM6200 (KL, changed company + promoted to Senior in my final year, last drawn salary in 2021 RM9500)
2022 - RM12,000 (KL, changed company)

In a nutshell, IT is a big market but lack quality talents, so if you are in a focus/niche area, it is very easy to make money. 

mine i think i'm enjoying the comfort zone. lol at myself

Those people who loudly and unashamedly reveal their pay in the internet are already high to begin with which they will use as an opportunity to humble brag. This creates sample bias.

- On this statement, I have never revealed my pay here but what I can say for certain is that many from MNC and GLC backgrounds go for min 20-30% hike. Especially when salary is below 30%. I have helped many friends, many of whom never used Lowyat forum before to secure 30% hike and not a measly 5% or 3% hike.

Those of you who propose 20-30% hike when job hopping is, while can happen OCCASIONALLY, is unrealistic. Majority of the job hoppers in Malaysia get a few percent.

- On this statement, maybe its true. But it is not OCCASSIONAL but very probable. This is from my experience in O&G and others in MNC environment.

Unless you are living in some small town with limited opportunities, then it is a different story.

Agree with you on 2 things:
1. Sample bias on Lowyat forum
2. getting high increment when you job hop is NOTHING to celebrate because it simply means that you were underpaid the whole time - Applicable most of the time.

I think you are missing the point that we are sharing samples from IT sector as OP themself is a software developer. In IT increments more than 20% during job change is very very common.

i would say yes and no

not everyone in IT can get 20k or even 15k per se

need to delve down the source of revenue of the company, does it offering services in USD/Euro market vs in local market? What industry is the company in? is it O&G, financial services, regulatory, media, or ecommerce?

all these factors determine the upper range they can offer for each position accordingly

my personal experience:

company that pays 9k - assuming the role of team lead / AM, carrying the expectations of a manager KPI in front of boss
company that pays 11k - merely a middle lvl engineer, much lesser responsibilities on shoulder
its the cold harsh fact that many MNCs somewhat disrupt the local IT SMEs pay range, smaller local companies has no choice but to turn into more vendors for their IT outsourcing

Min 30% please. Dont spoil the job market.

I have been working in 5 companies already throughout my 7 years of working.

My increment ranges from 25% to 50%.

ain’t that be a cap in everything?

if not one can easily hit /k/ standard salary while just being a senior exec

Depends on company. And your nego skill.

For example, if you are from chinaman company with 3k basic and 5 years experience. Suddenly join petronas, you can get around 6k to 7k according to their standard scale.

Thats more than 50% no?

Yes it is highly dependent on the company and situation.

I know a guy who went from about RM9k per month as a manager at a chinaman company and getting RM14k at a multinational as a team lead, didn't even have to nego much because the multinational standard range was like that.

Maybe /k/ standard salary needs to be revised post covid /s