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 Why X70 blindspot in T junction (when stop), Due to pillar almost 90 degrees

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TSmezanny
post May 10 2022, 03:04 PM, updated 4y ago

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at T junction stop.

Have u X70 owners ever need to lean forward to ensure no car at ur blind spot when u r at a t-junction ?

why the pillar so thick and almost 90 degress plus the huge side mirror not allow you see car on your right pass by ?

Have you ever got an experience that you almost bang car, when it drove fast across when u are at a t-junction ?

This post has been edited by mezanny: May 10 2022, 03:13 PM
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post May 10 2022, 03:11 PM

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Isn't that in T-junction we always need to stop first?
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post May 10 2022, 03:22 PM

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hmm, sounded like more of driver skill issue than the car design...

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post May 10 2022, 03:27 PM

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Lol..that's why you stop first and look.

Most modern cars will have this issue. Because the A pillars are made bigger and stronger for crash safety. You will never find any modern cars with slim A pillars like cars in the 80s and 90s anymore.

Be thankful you don't drive a car with a long good.

Try to sit more upright. The correct driving position.
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post May 10 2022, 07:16 PM

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When you test drive the car you never see the blindspots before you decide to own it? Nowadays most cars manufacturers also just use 360Degree camera to hide their blindspots..
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post May 11 2022, 10:07 AM

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You can’t adjust A pillar, so just adjust your sitting position, might not solve the problem, but might be able to find a position that’s balanced between comfort and safe.

Some car have better A pillars and side mirrors design that ensure min blind spot. Some just didn’t care as much. Plus everybody have a different sitting position and height, all these just contribute to the problem you facing now.

If you feel uncomfortable, just take more time to look around before driving off. safety is always above everything.
TSmezanny
post May 11 2022, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ May 11 2022, 10:07 AM)
You can’t adjust A pillar, so just adjust your sitting position, might not solve the problem, but might be able to find a position that’s balanced between comfort and safe.

Some car have better A pillars and side mirrors design that ensure min blind spot. Some just didn’t care as much. Plus everybody have a different sitting position and height, all these just contribute to the problem you facing now.

If you feel uncomfortable, just take more time to look around before driving off. safety is always above everything.
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Its not just me, I asked some X70 owners, they have the same issue.

I think the pillar is too 90 degrees and the designer did not take into consideration full view when at a t junction.


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post May 11 2022, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ May 11 2022, 10:12 AM)
Its not just me, I asked some X70 owners, they have the same issue.

I think the pillar is too 90 degrees and the designer did not take into consideration full view when at a t junction.
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Like other suggested, it is common in almost all modern cars. All suporting frame are huge for crash test worthiness.

Not just A pillar. B pillar also obstructive the view when backing out. Gotta learn to trust the RCTA. Door sill also very tall and wide that your calf muscle would touch the side skirt get in/out of the car. Difficult for short and old people as well.

In the name of low aerodynamic drag + sleek sculpture design, we have fastback sedan with coupe like profile, that rear is impossible to see/estimate. If you try one, it is almost impossible to park without rear camera.

It is common across the industry. Some car would have less blindspot simply because the shape compatible with your height and posture better. Different people will have different opinion which car has more/less blindspot.

Get used to it. Maybe one day you do better and upgrade to bigger car like X5 or XC60 etc... they probably even harder to estimate and see. Stop and see more carefully, get used to it.


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post May 12 2022, 09:39 AM

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Have not driven the X70 on the road, but apart from the safety justification explained by many, didn't you notice this before purchasing the vehicle?

I'm saying so coz its difficult to design a vehicle with a broad range of driver sizes while maintaining a particular look. For example there is roughly 8 inches of height difference between me an my other half, and we have driven cars where either 1 of us will encounter obvious blind spots due to seating, and A-pillar positions while the other won't. Some designers reduce this by flattening the A-pillar interior panel edge or angling the pillars slightly diagonally for a wider view outwards.

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TSmezanny
post May 12 2022, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ May 12 2022, 09:39 AM)
Have not driven the X70 on the road, but apart from the safety justification explained by many, didn't you notice this before purchasing the vehicle?

I'm saying so coz its difficult to design a vehicle with a broad range of driver sizes while maintaining a particular look. For example there is roughly 8 inches of height difference between me an my other half, and we have driven cars where either 1 of us will encounter obvious blind spots due to seating, and A-pillar positions while the other won't. Some designers reduce this by flattening the A-pillar interior panel edge or angling the pillars slightly diagonally for a wider view outwards.
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My previous car has a deeper dashboard, the car designers purposely did that so they can allow the driver a better 180 degree front view.

I dunno I am not a car expert but obviously X70 has an issue with 180 degree view. If a car is driving very fast at a t junction, you just have seconds to detect it.

There are some things we don't see when we test driven the car. Maybe the SA was smart not to bring your car to a t-junction, who knows ?
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post May 12 2022, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ May 12 2022, 09:44 AM)
My previous car has a deeper dashboard, the car designers purposely did that so they can allow the driver a better 180 degree front view.

I dunno I am not a car expert but obviously X70 has an issue with 180 degree view. If a car is driving very fast at a t junction, you just have seconds to detect it.

There are some things we don't see when we test driven the car. Maybe the SA was smart not to bring your car to a t-junction, who knows ?
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Deeper dashboard designs, or some call it "cab forward design" was not primarily to ease outward visibility, but instead to create a perception of a bigger cabin by pushing the windscreen's bottom partially over the engine bay. Cars like the FD & FB Civic, many 2000s-2010s MPVs and American AMC Pacer and Chrysler Concorde/Dodge Intrepid are such examples. But certain cars like the Suzuki SX4 hatch and sedan while applying this approach, generally created blind spots from the branching A-pillar and position for many drivers.

I dunno about you, but when I test drive a car I plan and decide the route to take which would cover my typical traffic conditions, NOT the SA, because it would give the SA opportunity to 'market' the cars stronger points instead of the would-be owner's actual needs. Personally since the car has already been purchased and the loan is being serviced, I would just be more mindful when driving that vehicle and change it for a more suitable one when the time comes.

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TSmezanny
post May 12 2022, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ May 12 2022, 10:17 AM)
Deeper dashboard designs, or some call it "cab forward design" was not primarily to ease outward visibility, but instead to create a perception of a bigger cabin by pushing the windscreen's bottom partially over the engine bay. Cars like the FD & FB Civic, many 2000s-2010s MPVs and American AMC Pacer and Chrysler Concorde/Dodge Intrepid are such examples. But certain cars like the Suzuki SX4 hatch and sedan while applying this approach, generally created blind spots from the branching A-pillar and position for many drivers.

I dunno about you, but when I test drive a car I plan and decide the route to take which would cover my typical traffic conditions, NOT the SA, because it would give the SA opportunity to 'market' the cars stronger points instead of the would-be owner's actual needs. Personally since the car has already been purchased and the loan is being serviced, I would just be more mindful when driving that vehicle and change it for a more suitable one when the time comes.
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well yeah have to bear with it.

lesson learnt on my part.


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post May 12 2022, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ May 12 2022, 10:20 AM)
well yeah have to bear with it.

lesson learnt on my part.
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Try to see it from a bright side.

At the price you paid for the X70, you already have plenty of features that others would need to pay an additional 20K or more for something similar (or even partially) from other makes. That point alone is a very undeniable strong justified reason to get a X70.

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post May 12 2022, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ May 12 2022, 10:34 AM)
Try to see it from a bright side.

At the price you paid for the X70, you already have plenty of features that others would need to pay an additional 20K or more for something similar (or even partially) from other makes. That point alone is a very undeniable strong justified reason to get a X70.
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just have to be careful not to get into an accident.

we don't know how soon parts will arrive.

there r times when some idiot swerve into my lane, almost accident, i luckily avoided just in time -
it is not my life that flashed before me. It is the life of my car that flashed before me.

 

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