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post Apr 16 2022, 08:37 PM, updated 4y ago

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Dear Crypto Sifu/s, as the title mentioned. Securities Commission Malaysia currently only regulated Luno (please update me if they already regulated Binance). So therefore Luno is the main platform i used to expose myself to World of Cryptocurrency. I found that Luno currently has very few crypto currencies available in Malaysia compare to Luno at other country, and i wanted to invest in Stable Coin for Staking at Anchor Protocol. Wanna hear some advise from the Sifu out there, what is the cheapest way (I don't really mind the hassle) to get Stable Coins? I'm currently thinking of buying XRP then transfer to other platform and convert into Stable Coin since XRP got lowest "Fuel Fee" compare to BTC and ETC. So 2% on Platform + Fee + Probably Conversion/Swap Fee on another platform? Do share your insight on this.
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post Apr 16 2022, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Apr 16 2022, 09:02 PM)
Luno got 2% fee and another cheaper one banyak sohai tot 2% is fix. The other one is 0.5% and 0.25%. check all local exchange for the best rate some time luno cheap some one sky high price. Fyi cheapest network fee is LTC luno charge like 1 cent je if withdraw from luno to other exchange , binance charge like 300-400x luno fee .
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The other cheaper one you refer to is which one? I'm planning on using Nexo to exchange to Stable Coin, will look into LTC fee. Reason i'm posting this is because other platform will charge you N% of Bank/Card Processing Fee when topping up which is greater than the 2% charged by Luno on buying Crypto
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post Apr 16 2022, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(ljken @ Apr 16 2022, 10:04 PM)
Buy Eth on Luno, swap to UST on Uniswap, then bridge via Terra's official bridge if no use Binance.
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This can be very bad, ETH fee is sky high... my ETH still stuck in Luno.. can't really move it out from wallet due to fee.
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post Apr 17 2022, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Apr 16 2022, 10:38 PM)
Inside luno app got 2 section normal 2% one and cheaper one ( exchange ) . If u pay 2% u memang water fish.
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OMG!!!! doh.gif Speechless...
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post Apr 18 2022, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 18 2022, 12:55 AM)
I’ll stick to BTC then swap to UST on an exchange that can do so such as Kucoin or Binance. Just found out can’t exchange BTC to UST on Dex. Once have UST then transfer to Terra on Anchor Protocol. Their 20% apy will drop starting end of this mth until it is stable.

Found a thread on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/com...utm_name=iossmf
Not sure if got better way.

Planning to put a bit in Anchor. Don’t trust it enough to put in a high amount.
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Likewise, i plan on getting $1k UST to put in Anchor, just i confused on how to transfer to TerraWallet, the reason that holding me is the cost... I don't want just because i wanna get 19.5% APY then i have to stake the first 3-4 months just to pay the fee associated with the buying and transfer.

I'm currently staking all my XRP at Nexo, they have the promotion for 6months locked period for +5% which is very good IMO for holding, but it's XRP so don't expect it's a ride to the moon would be glad if not crash landing. While holding the UST is like holding Dollar in your wallet there, where when needed you can just use it to Buy Crypto.
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post Apr 18 2022, 04:49 PM

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Just realized Nexo currently still not able to withdraw UST to Terra Station. Bummer. in the meantime... set a Price Alert on Luno (Still regretted i've been paying few 2% fee for instant buy)
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post Apr 18 2022, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 18 2022, 05:05 PM)
Will try binance as it is cheaper:
https://www.binance.com/en/fee/cryptoFee

https://www.binance.com/en/convert

Need to check transfer fee and conversion rate.

Can check the rest here.. for binance doesn’t seem accurate tho:
https://withdrawalfees.com/coins/terrausd

Hmm didn’t know not every wallet can transfer to Terra. I thought if got address then ok to go?
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Luckily i hold my horses and decide to roam reddit for awhile, then found that Nexo just recently introduce UST into their platform, therefore currently there's no deposit or withdraw function in Nexo, not for few months as per their "regular" users. Binance still not regulated in Malaysia right? Maybe i'll just buy BTC via Luno and just transfer to Binance before swap to UST, Soon EPF money will in....
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post Apr 18 2022, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 18 2022, 09:09 PM)


Interesting video. Warnings and how AP works.
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rclxms.gif I liked how they said about Luna's supporter is "LunaTic", But regardless of how good it sound, we may one day witness it falls... nothing last forever, so while we're at it. Might as well try it. Degen box.. i heard about it for awhile, but it's really too risky..... if AP 19.45% is already risky, 5 times that amount... once depeg and all your money gone. We can never tell if UST suddenly drop to $0.75 for few minutes just for the clause.

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post Apr 19 2022, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 19 2022, 01:03 AM)
Can buy BTC at Luno then transfer over to Binance to swap. If scare trace then use VPN. (Our gov all asleep no worries biggrin.gif)
Yea better go for something that's less risky. AP has been around for a year plus liao with many good reviews. Still as the youtuber says there's a risk it might collapse.. Albeit a harder due to its strong foundation and supporters now.

Put a bit should be ok.. Put in entire life savings then better not.
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Talk about timing, when i wanna buy BTC today then the price Rose~~doh.gif. I'm able to access Binance so i assume government already lifted the ban? previously i heard Binance web totally can't access. as for AP, $1000 @ 19.45% is about $0.5 per day, it's good to park there for my daily coffee. Probably will increase in later this year otherwise just DCA portion of $$ to buy and hold BTC is actually not a bad Idea given more people start to accept its existence.
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post Apr 19 2022, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 19 2022, 05:10 PM)
I asking at the crypto main thread.. got ppl got banned before. Not sure now back to normal?
https://www.imoney.my/articles/binance-malaysia

If want buy BTC wait for it to drop below USD40k per bit coin.. after studying its price for some time I can safely say that’s the support level. If buy above that then higher risk. Also better to buy and sell short term make a few hundred bucks each time. Long term is dangerous. Never know if another crash is coming.
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sweat.gif I'm going to make assumption, Luno is regulated by SC while Binance is not... but once our MYR is turned into BTC, it shouldn't be "bounded" by Malaysia anymore right? So the only problem left will be "The Website" can't access while you're using Malaysia ISP. I'm pretty sure that eventually we'll need to withdraw... that time we'll just declare to Luno on how we got the BTC... As long as the value is not like Millions i think should be ok.. otherwise we'll just continue to stake/trade and find way to withdraw/turned into cash.
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post Apr 21 2022, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(sensualdaddy619 @ Apr 21 2022, 01:46 PM)
BigPay now works seamlessly with Binance P2P, no issues.
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Any surcharge other than the Forex Exchange?
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post Apr 22 2022, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Apr 22 2022, 05:17 PM)
Just a coincidence, I'm currently doing Anchor Protocol + Mirror delta neutral short+long farming strategy with my play money of my portfolio, so I had some homework done.

I have a few methods, pick your poison ya. I'm not a fan of Binance so I found my own routes below.

1. Kadoramp directly to Terra wallet. (One-way)
2USD flat fee, up to 500USD transaction limit initially (0.4% cost), simple KYC that can be done in 5min. This is easily the cheapest and least loss way to get UST if you have a Wise card to pay in USD on best rates.

Total fee: 2USD flat + ~0.5% Wise forex charges

2. Luno (two-way)
Buy LTC (LTC has the smallest different between market prices and Luno prices), send to KuCoin, trade LTC for USDT, trade USDT for UST, withdraw to TerraWallet. LTC send cost is negligible from Luno, and KuCoin trading cost is low, UST withdrawal fee is 2UST.

Total fee: 2UST flat, ~0.25% LTC purchase fee on Luno (maker fee), ~0.5USD LTC send fees, 0.1% x2 Kucoin trading fee

3. Atom (two-way, advanced)
Buy LTC -> trade for USDT on Kucoin -> trade USDT for Atom -> withdraw to Keplr wallet -> Interblockchain send from COSMOS (ATOM) to OSMOSIS, on Osmosis app, swap Atom for UST or Luna if you'd like, withdraw to Terra Wallet. It's possible to use the same seed phrase of TerraWallet on Keplr wallet so you save one sending process.
Total fee: 0.25% LTC purchase fee, 0 fee once your money reach Osmosis. 0.1% x2 on KuCoin, ~0.5USD Atom withdrawal fee on KuCoin

Option 1 is the best if you just want to deposit.
Option 2 is the easiest withdrawal path.
Option 3 has no minimum fee so it's more small deposit friendly but takes some knowledge to setup.

Keep in mind if you purchase crypto via non-LUNO exchanges, you better keep those transaction records if LHDN find you in the future for your crypto gains.
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Thanks so much for the share! I guess i'll stick with Luno, since i already have both Luno and KuCoin KYC done. but now $$ stuck in CIMB SG... lol~ their OTP Token got issue..
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post Apr 27 2022, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(runningdash @ Apr 27 2022, 05:07 PM)
Hi, I have a question. Would it be wise to apply for personal loan since interest personal loan 5% and staking at anchor return 19%.

Please advise.
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hmm.gif That's a good question. Have you thought about an exit plan? Where if something happened and you lost those crypto you bought using your loan? And have you already done the math? I know 19% P.A. is greater than 5% P.A., but loan usually required you to pay back on a monthly basis and if you plan on using the Interest to pay off the loan, you have to think twice as every transaction from UST --> MYR does have many cost associate with it. It might not worth it.

If you already thought over all the things i mentioned above and decide to go for it. All the best! and let's hope we all huat huat.

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post Apr 28 2022, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(runningdash @ Apr 28 2022, 03:47 AM)
What is the cost from UST --> MYR?
Haven't staked yet so unsure of cost.
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The cost is similar to MYR to UST which consist of
1) Platform Fee
2) Forex Fee
3) Transfer Fee
4) Withdrawal Fee

E.g. If you're using Luno
There's a 0.25% platform fee for every crypto transaction (if you use instant buy/sell then it's 2%). After you acquire Crypto, you will then transfer to Binance/KuCoin/Any Crypto Exchange = Transfer Fee or "Gas Price". Then at Binance/KuCoin/Crypto Exchange = your crypto will need to exchange/swap to UST = "Exchange/Swap Fee", then from there to TerraStation another Transfer Fee/Gas Price, then only you reach Anchor Protocol.

When you plan to withdraw, you've to go through the steps above in reverse confusing at first but once you go through it once then you roughly will know what is the estimate fee you're going to pay. And that's the reason why i started this thread, asking for the cheapest way to acquire StableCoin/Crypto. icon_idea.gif

Other than fees, time also another factor that's why I'm using Luno as example. If you're using other Crypto Exchange that is not regulated in Malaysia, the bank might raised a red flag whenever N amount of money (Usually in ten thousands) deposit to your account.

I saw many already did buying Crypto from Luno using their EPF 10k --> Binance/KuGoin --> immediately exchange UST for staking.

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post May 10 2022, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ May 10 2022, 02:12 PM)
Reddit full of complaints too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnchorProtocol/
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Oh dear, can't blame Luna as US Economy currently is rapidly falling. I wonder what will happened to those who leverage their crypto position for staking purpose. I read that those using Degenbox use UST to Leverage, but they need to ensure UST to stay above $0.9 and this morning UST drop to $0.61 which is is the worst it has since 2020 Dec which is $0.85. Feel bad for them.
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post May 11 2022, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ May 11 2022, 01:43 PM)
UST price fell to 70+ cents. Luna is now below USD10.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/terrausd/

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/terra-luna/

If Luna price keeps going down it will drag UST along with it. The spiral seems to keep getting worse. Made worse with panic withdrawals and sells on the market.
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At one moment i thought i misread it as below $100, which i wonder why make a fuse about it until i clicked in.... omg... LOL~~~ GG

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post May 11 2022, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ May 11 2022, 02:57 PM)
After this I will stay far far away from algorithmic stablecoins..

SEC also seem unamuse by this and they will likely do something to stablecoins after seeing this fiasco. Regulations incoming? :
https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/terra-st...ecoin-loses-peg

Previously SEC did subpoena Do Kwon but he fought back and refuse to attend the hearing.
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cool2.gif Nothing much we can do for now, if got $$ then can consider buying more, if not... take a short break and come back after .... maybe October? Hopefully by then is already Green Day~

P/S: Green Day - Wake me up when September ends
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post May 12 2022, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ May 11 2022, 03:38 PM)
some at Reddit say no hope liao.. it is the end.
no idea how Terra is going to recover their UST peg. For now it seems impossible.
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I got Ping-ed early morning telling me it drops to $0.9, I ignored it as i know UST is depeging... then just now i check again, GG! it's Luna that drop to $0.9 this morning ~~

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post May 12 2022, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ May 12 2022, 10:10 AM)
you have Luna? if got then just hold first till it at least recovers some of its value.

Do Kwon plan to keep mint new Luna hence will cause it to oversupply the market, until UST value gain back its peg at USD1. So expect Luna's price to keep crashing until this happens.
Can check this at his twitter on his latest plans: https://twitter.com/stablekwon

at least UST now went up to 70 cents.. but trust severely broken. Many at Reddit say they will never use Anchor again.
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most my fund stuck at US Stock, so i've no spare cash to buy crypto... but i did set a buy order on XRP that trigger when it hit Rm 1, it seems not "Impossible" for now... BTC also drop under RM125k sweat.gif
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post May 13 2022, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(UserU @ May 13 2022, 08:29 PM)
Well, GG for UST.
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So basically means all UST got frozen? until further notice? RIP my luna.... if i sell i lose, now no sell.. drop to 0 and delisted.. i guess not much different.

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