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 Eyeglasses Lenses - Quality & Pricing, Hoya, Zeiss etc.

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TSSportyHandling
post Apr 5 2022, 02:18 PM, updated 4y ago

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I was wondering which lenses currently available in the market which are usually recommended for quality. I used to have Carl Zeiss lenses on my old glasses before the frame broke. After an eye prescription for a pair of new glasses, a new lens from Hoya was picked mainly for the price as the equivalent Zeiss lens was priced higher.

Does anyone know if there is a standard price list for lenses of the same type or brand ie. Hoya, Zeiss etc., or the price of the lenses differ with specific prescription on the lenses?

For my new Hoya Nulux 1.67 single vision lenses (S -7.50, S -7.50 ; C +0.50, C-0.50) with View Protect Hi-vision coating, the cost is RM550 after discount. After adding the cost of the frame (RM430 after discount), the total price of the glasses is RM980. I think I only paid RM650 for my old glasses but it came with a cheaper frame (perhaps RM200-300) but the lens is a Zeiss which is supposed to be higher in quality and price.

Which brings to the question on the quoted price of RM550 for the new Hoya Nulux 1.67 single vision lenses, whether I'm overcharged or the price of lenses has increased within these few years.
TSSportyHandling
post Apr 5 2022, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Apr 5 2022, 02:42 PM)
only RM550 for your lenses? You should be happy that you are still paying that prices. Wait until you reach progressive lenses, it's about RM1K minimum for lenses only with those brands unless you are willing to settle with random local brands.

Anyways, all these brands already have set prices. Your optometrist should show you as they all have handbooks for different brands to indicate all the prices by Zeiss, Essilor or Hoya. After that it depends on how much discounts they want to give you.
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Yes, I'm aware progressive lenses are a lot more expensive. Haven't been to that territory yet, not wanting to go there if possible. I've never paid more than RM1k for a pair of glasses before but this new pair of glasses reached very close to the mark, which is the purpose of this thread.

It's not so much about paying a seemingly low price of RM550 for the lenses vs the costlier progressive lenses. I just wanted to avoid overpaying for lenses with marked up prices from some stores. If the same lens can be had for say RM400 from other stores and I'm paying RM550 for it, then means I'm overpaying. Having said that, I guess the price I'm paying should be alright judging from the location of the shop and the owner who runs it.
TSSportyHandling
post Apr 5 2022, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 5 2022, 04:00 PM)
Coatings.

I have used Essilor Crizal and Zeiss. To be honest, unless you work in office environment, better dont opt for these lenses. The coatings will help you clean the lenses much easier. I think the Zeiss also have better glare coating IIRC. The problem I have with these are coatings tend to peel off after a year or so (apparently I was told that I cant wash them with soap, shampoo etc.. also cant work in a hot environment like kitchen for example). At first I didnt even know there's warranty for these to replace them for free if the coating peel off within a year. However even after I replaced my Zeiss lenses for free, it still peel off again a year later. The Zeiss lenses arent cheap somemore, and only polished after you placed order on them.

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In the distance past, I have used a pair of Hoya. I dont think it has coatings as well since I had no peeling coating problem as I washed them with soap. The special thing about the lenses is that it straighten the view of the edge of the lenses which curved with normal lenses due to its shape.

Currently Im on my 2nd pair of glasses from A-Look. Both also using their Photogrey lenses. Yes, there are no coating on these which makes cleaning them a bit harder. However I do not need to care for them at all. I can wash them with soap, shampoo etc which I cant do with branded lenses like Crizal and Zeiss (I didnt even use soap with my Zeiss lenses but the coating still peel). There are scratches on the lenses which is fine, unlike peeling coating which affect visibility.
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I am not aware that Zeiss lens cannot be washed with soap or shampoo. I used water, occasionally with shampoo to wash and wipe the Zeiss lens. I don't know if the shampoo has washed away the coating as well. I didn't notice any degradation in quality or performance of the lens but they did turn slightly yellowish after a while, perhaps due to other factors. I also have a bottle of lens cleaner which I rarely use to clean the lens. It may have expired by now I guess.

When I go to collect my new glasses from the shop, I'll ask on the proper way to clean the lens.
TSSportyHandling
post Apr 6 2022, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 5 2022, 11:29 PM)
I'm just disappointed the coating peeloff is so bad.
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May I ask how do you know the coating peeled off from the lens? Is the layer of coating that came off visible on the lens as there are uneven lines on the lens or something like that?

 

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