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 Buy Second House or Buy Car, Which one would you go for?

Buy Second House or Buy Car
 
Buy Second House [ 74 ] ** [44.05%]
Buy New Car [ 94 ] ** [55.95%]
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Kakistok
post Apr 4 2022, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Apr 4 2022, 12:18 PM)
Hey guys, I'm in my 30's now and I'm still single. I own a condo but still drives my dad's old Proton Waja to this day.

I'm wondering, at this point, do I purchase another house/condo (for investment purposes) or do I get myself a brand new car?

My heart tells me that I should get myself a new car (Mazda or Camry) but my gut is telling me to get a second property for investment.

So, I've listed down the pros and cons of each choices:

Buy new car
Pros:
1. It's probably time to replace my old waja. It's 20 years old.
2. Better chance to get girlfriend
Cons:
1. It's a liability. It's just a car at the end of the day.
2. Potential opportunity cost (e.g cannot invest in other things for a while)

Buy second property
Pros:
1. Potential long-term investment (not guaranteed and have to wait 10-30 years)
2. You have two houses
Cons:
1. Life is not all about buying houses like collecting pokemon cards. You need to enjoy life when young too.

What would you guys do?
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You need a new car to get a girlfriend? I guess you need to open a new topic for this biggrin.gif
30s, still single, financially stable - getting a GF should be walk in the park, especially how expressive and open girls are these days

anyway, I'm in a similar dilemma - 30s too, house and car fully paid - so thinking should I get a car or house
some of the income Ive been setting aside monthly to invest in US stocks (this last 2 years has been dreadful)

I saw an investment project in Langkawi, Tropicana Chenang - beachfront studio like units from 400k - hand very itchy leh




Kakistok
post Apr 4 2022, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Apr 4 2022, 01:14 PM)
Strongly recommend you to get a car below 100k budget.
Why car?
You sound like a financially responsible person. I'm sure you've been itching to enjoy a nice new ride and have held on for a long time. Reward yourself sikit lah haha.

Why not house?
Because your reason is for investment. I'm personally a strong advocate for "property to stay" only. There are so many risks with owning a house for investment - your house value might drop, developer issue, workmanship, renovation cost, rental woes, increased commitment... So many extra problems to worry about, I would even argue having 2nd house belongs to Cons section laugh.gif

Why under 100k?
This is my guesstimate based on your comparison - being able to afford a 2nd house, I believe such a budget for car will be easily affordable. With more information, you might be able to convince me you'll be fine with Mazda or Camry haha.

You will be a first time new car owner, so start slow is ok, it's already a big upgrade from your 20yo Waja. This budget also can get you a car full of modern features that improves safety. If you wanna survey for cars, head to Fast and Furious for advice.

Plus, got new car also good la for family, if you guys wanna go anywhere for long trip, I think a B segment sedan does the job.

Long term wise, it'll be a car you can use at a minimum of 5 years, can also support family if you settle down within these few years. You can save the rest of your money for investments - head to financial subforum, many sifus there wink.gif

Lastly, you're not wrong when you say having a car improves your chances of getting a girlfriend, but make no mistake: there is a difference between a lady looking for a man with car vs. a man with BMW. Having a car equipped with basic safety is good enough. If it's me, I just want to be able to meet my partner easily instead of having my choices cut down to places that have public transport. A new car is a lot safer and comfortable also, enough for passenger to be able to take short naps good enough la.
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hey, good advice man - I'm in similar situation as TS. In my mid30s have fully paid my house and car. Thinking of another car or house. And I have to agree with house for stay only, house for investment seems like too much hassle
I was looking for like a vacation home (cum retirement home when I retire) maybe in PD/Langkawi - something close to beach - accommodation is always the most expensive part of a vacation if you're travelling locally, so having a vacation home seems like a good idea

When I used to work in the US (north side where its super cold during winter) - my coworkers would invest in house in the south, like in Florida - as vacation homes and also for retirement when they old so they can escape the harsh winter
Kakistok
post Apr 5 2022, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Apr 4 2022, 04:13 PM)
WAH big boss level... 2nd property for vacation is a huge ass commitment solely for leisure! I can only imagine that for now until retirement, you will rent it out or do a AirBnb, basically let agent handle...? Then I understand the value of buying a property now for retirement, since property price in Malaysia is likelier to increase over time, especially if you're looking for "touristy place" to retire in, I think it's one less risk as government probably won't allow anything that decreases land value near a tourist place (like industry, garbage disposal sites etc..)

Also, it depends on how good your current car is. For TS case, 20yo Waja is unsafe and may have many wear and tear problems, so a new car makes more sense imo. A B segment local car can easily manage even at 5 year loan, with ample to spare for continued investment.
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I think you misunderstood my point - I'm just looking for another house as a own stay vacation home (for me and my family/friends) and in the future would be a retirement home. No plans for airbnb or renting and I wouldn't care if it drops value
Since I already have finished paying my house and I have set a side a some for emergency & investment - just looking for another place with remaining cash I have minus all my expenses

my car I bought a used one 2 years ago - a 5 year old Iriz, approx 50k miles for rm18k - 2 years no issues so far other than usual wear tear
my current house is a walk up flat 3B I bought in 2014 for rm180k in suburb KL - I finished paying it in 2020, as I was already paying extra every month and I cash out some gains from my US stocks to finish it off.

so no big boss level la - just a middle class peep living in moderation.

 

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