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post Apr 3 2022, 02:21 AM

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Depression is real serious downward spiral. For those not experience it before can afford to make confidence comment but in reality those that have will have sympathy for the boy. He should have get some help before making the decision to end his life. but that being said, if he can seek help this should not have happen in the first place...
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post Apr 3 2022, 03:00 AM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Apr 2 2022, 05:40 PM)
You lack empathy
Ones action is always relative to their experience, which differs from everybody else
To a high schooler that has an overbearing parents, likely his life only revolves around his academic
Even if we were going to lazily assume his only hardship is long study hours with constant monitoring and maybe some physical and verbal abuses sprinkled in, to this boy, that might have been enough to suck out all sense of hope.
And let's assume even more that this boy might be having a hard time with his exam to warrant such forced study hours by his parents.
This compounds the effect of flawed study methods ingrained by clueless parents.
Imagine not being good enough even after all that work, which to his mind, should at least appease his parents.

To you and me, his hardship is a walk in a park

To be this thoughtless is lazy
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QUOTE(spamfish @ Apr 3 2022, 02:21 AM)
Depression is real serious downward spiral. For those not experience it before can afford to make confidence comment but in reality those that have will have sympathy for the boy. He should have get some help before making the decision to end his life. but that being said, if he can seek help this should not have happen in the first place...
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I have been through that. Suicidal intention, extreme sadness, crying for no reason, leaning on a balcony, you name it, that was when i was much younger.

I sought help from counsellors.

Now thinking back, for a person to give up without seeking help first is just plain selfish.

Or even without trying to work through the problem, or even without attempting to brace through challenges.

School counsellors, friends, teachers, befrienders are there for you. One should take effort to speak to them.

That's the reason why I need to share this. From my experience, I have seen others out there who have suffered much more worst (those things that are truly beyond their control) than this 'academic pressure'. To chose suicide over academic pressure is just selfish.

Also, i have seen cases (on students) over the years who chose video games/entertainment over studies, then they complained they are depressed for not being able to score. In campus, you can see them not even attempting to help themselves.

Empathy? I have seen others who suffered worst and yet they brace through. Those kind of cases where if you listen to their entire story, tears can really drop from your own eyes because it's truly traumatic and beyond their control. And yet they brace through it.

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post Apr 3 2022, 03:23 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Apr 3 2022, 03:00 AM)
I have been through that. Suicidal intention, extreme sadness, crying for no reason, leaning on a balcony, you name it, that was when i was much younger.

I sought help from counsellors.

Now thinking back, for a person to give up without seeking help first is just plain selfish. 

Or even without trying to work through the problem, or even without attempting to brace through challenges.

School counsellors, friends, teachers, befrienders are there for you. One should take effort to speak to them.

That's the reason why I need to share this. From my experience, I have seen others out there who have suffered much more worst (those things that are truly truly beyond their control) than this 'academic pressure'. To chose suicide over academic pressure is just selfish.

Also, i have seen cases (on students) over the years who chose video games/entertainment over studies, then they complained they are depressed for not being able to score. In campus, you can see them not even attempting to help themselves.

Empathy? I have seen others who suffered worst and yet they brace through. Those kind of cases where if you listen to their entire story, tears can really really drop from your own eyes because it's truly traumatic and beyond their control. And yet they brace through it.
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Firstly, I hope you are much better now. Sincerely.

Coming back, has it ever occurred to you that being through one doesn't make you an expert in one? To put quotes when making terms such as academic pressure already means you don't understand the world in their POV.

Secondly, you missed an important symptom when describing it; hopelessness/loss of interest in everything. Coupled that with the common culture here, it's no surprise not everyone calls befrienders or make a tiktok video to seek help.

I don't want to make light of others' suffering, but in order to understand, one musn't decide what is more/less traumatic/important to another.

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post Apr 3 2022, 03:29 AM

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QUOTE(toos99 @ Apr 3 2022, 03:23 AM)
Firstly, I hope you are much better now. Sincerely.

Coming back, has it ever occurred to you that being through one doesn't make you an expert in one? To put quotes when making terms such as academic pressure already means you don't understand the world in their POV.

Secondly, you missed an important symptom when describing it; hopelessness/loss of interest in everything. Coupled that with the common culture here, it's no surprise not everyone calls befrienders or make a tiktok video to seek help.

I don't want to make light of others' suffering, but in order to understand, one musn't decide what is more/less traumatic/important to another.
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I have experienced speaking to them. I have students coming to speak to me in my line of work.

Yes, it's undesirable to make light of others' suffering but through my own experience of those speaking to those suffering from academic pressure and comparing to those who suffered worst, I would always sympathise more on the latter.

And more often than not, when you peek through their daily life, you can see that they have not put enough effort on it to work out the problem. For example, putting effort into studies. For instance, to score well, one should study consistently, not only study on the week before the final exam.

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post Apr 3 2022, 03:43 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Apr 3 2022, 03:29 AM)
I have experienced speaking to them. I have students coming to speak to me in my line of work.

Yes, it's undesirable to make light of others' suffering but through my own experience of those speaking to those suffering from academic pressure and comparing to those who suffered worst, I would always sympathise more on the latter.

And more often than not, when you peek through their daily life, you can see that they have not put enough effort on it to work out the problem. For example, putting effort into studies.
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As would anyone else if their sufferings compel it. Unless one's a psychopath I guess.

Since you say your line of work involves speaking to people like them, it is all the more important that you don't apply judgement on the stories.

Prolly if you peel the onions (note the s), you can piece the puzzles better. Why would one prioritize gaming over studies? Because of peer pressure? The need to belong to a a group of like minded kids whom are doing the same? Peel further, single child, always alone? The need to belong somewhere? Humans generally are social creatures.

Note that I'm just making examples up, prolly none of these apply to those you've seen. Prolly also they're just ADD, not depressed. As for me, to see someone leap off a building, be it for something trivial or traumatic, POV wise, is irrelevant to you and me. It is everything for them.


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post Apr 3 2022, 05:46 AM

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Father must be disappointed at him, ask him to stay out of the house in cold weather.

Later he had enough of this shit and decided no need to love anymore

I also sometimes ask my kids to stay out the house and rotan them outside for people to see.....cabut...Manada..actually ada
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post Apr 3 2022, 06:01 AM

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Man....this is no motobodo thread... I sad
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post Apr 3 2022, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Apr 3 2022, 03:00 AM)
I have been through that. Suicidal intention, extreme sadness, crying for no reason, leaning on a balcony, you name it, that was when i was much younger.

I sought help from counsellors.

Now thinking back, for a person to give up without seeking help first is just plain selfish. 

Or even without trying to work through the problem, or even without attempting to brace through challenges.

School counsellors, friends, teachers, befrienders are there for you. One should take effort to speak to them.

That's the reason why I need to share this. From my experience, I have seen others out there who have suffered much more worst (those things that are truly beyond their control) than this 'academic pressure'. To chose suicide over academic pressure is just selfish.

Also, i have seen cases (on students) over the years who chose video games/entertainment over studies, then they complained they are depressed for not being able to score. In campus, you can see them not even attempting to help themselves.

Empathy? I have seen others who suffered worst and yet they brace through. Those kind of cases where if you listen to their entire story, tears can really drop from your own eyes because it's truly traumatic and beyond their control. And yet they brace through it.
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Exactly
You have experienced hardship and managed to see through it
You have seen others hardship and see how they managed through it

You have experienced more
You have more points of data to compare to and conclude that this much of hardship is just at this level

But maybe not to this kid
Being young, he did not experience enough to know bigger hardship
To him, at that moment, he was at his lowest
That is over his perspective

Perspective is relative

If only he had a more sensitive parents
If only he had the help survivors like me and you had
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post Apr 3 2022, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Apr 3 2022, 05:46 AM)
Father must be disappointed at him, ask him to stay out of the house in cold weather.

Later he had enough of this shit and decided no need to love anymore

I also sometimes ask my kids to stay out the house and rotan them outside for people to see.....cabut...Manada..actually ada
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If you read the transcipted video, the father told the son to come inside many times

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post Apr 3 2022, 07:07 AM

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post Apr 3 2022, 09:07 AM

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Smooth execution
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post Apr 3 2022, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Bendot @ Apr 3 2022, 06:31 AM)
If you read the transcipted video,  the father told the son to come inside many times
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Can share the transcript here? No app can't read the link.
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post Apr 3 2022, 09:23 AM

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looks like a well to do family in vietnam. nice condo very well furnished somemore.

but who to kesian more? the impoverished kids who can barely afford to go school but keeps trying n stays on course or the kid who has everything but suicides because cannot tahan school.
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post Apr 3 2022, 09:52 AM

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study so hard for mat chart

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post Apr 3 2022, 01:35 PM

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Poor kid. Rest in peace.

Hope the parents learned a good lesson.

As usual, ktards sembang kencang strawberry.
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post Apr 3 2022, 01:46 PM

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If u got watch jew tube got 1 case terbalik , anak hire hitman bunuh parent cos tiger parenting they are US viet imigrant
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post Apr 3 2022, 09:33 PM

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not sure who is the strawberry, the one who take the leap to end it all,
or the one who just live another day and afraid of death.
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post Apr 4 2022, 02:11 PM

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next life dun be your father son again ya. you breaking your dad's heart. So, you better go far away. useless son
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post Apr 4 2022, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Apr 2 2022, 12:20 PM)
It's the air pressure la. When you open the door in the front, the air from outside at balcony side flow in and pushes the balcony door.

You've never experienced such a thing at home?
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