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SUSAngelic Layer
post Mar 15 2022, 06:28 AM, updated 4y ago

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Been entertaining thoughts of starting a vacuum tube manufacturing plant like since 2019 when Shuguang factory in China was destroyed by fire and no production since.
EHX have just declared that there is no more vacuum tubes for the foreseeable futures, so JJ tubes from Slovakia is the only choice left if you want EL34, 6L6.

Now Western Electric is reissuing 300B for 1500 USD for a piece of glass that heats up and burn, I say why not start a business that have great demand from audio and guitar amplification which have very few competitors?
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post Mar 15 2022, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 15 2022, 06:28 AM)
Been entertaining thoughts of starting a vacuum tube manufacturing plant like since 2019 when Shuguang factory in China was destroyed by fire and no production since.
EHX have just declared that there is no more vacuum tubes for the foreseeable futures, so JJ tubes from Slovakia is the only choice left if you want EL34, 6L6.

Now Western Electric is reissuing 300B for 1500 USD for a piece of glass that heats up and burn, I say why not start a business that have great demand from audio and guitar amplification which have very few competitors?
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Setup brains in Shenzhen, capital from Shanghai, manufacture in rural china. Possible.
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post Mar 15 2022, 06:32 AM

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Fucken great idea...

Can you steal the soviet secrets or maybe the recipe with kickbacks to ehx?
SUSAngelic Layer
post Mar 15 2022, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(guest16888 @ Mar 15 2022, 06:31 AM)
Setup brains in Shenzhen, capital from Shanghai, manufacture in rural china. Possible.
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No China.
In Malaysia at least still have 49% left, in China you set up infrastructure they take all which is now happening in Russia
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post Mar 15 2022, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Mar 15 2022, 06:32 AM)
Fucken great idea...

Can you steal the soviet secrets or maybe the recipe with kickbacks to ehx?
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There is still Matsushita people if they don't die of old age already, investigating on that.
Fuck EHX, if we have the gold everyone is begging for it even without the name.
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post Mar 15 2022, 06:35 AM

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I think the mainland Chinese will beat you to the punch...

They've got it all....


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post Mar 15 2022, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Mar 15 2022, 06:35 AM)
I think the mainland Chinese will beat you to the punch...

They've got it all....
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No more, Shuguang burned down in 2019 and they are not starting since government ordered for semiconductor shortage; I've done the check.
Fullmusic only made 12AX7, 300B and KT88 in China.
So only JJ left
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post Mar 15 2022, 06:40 AM

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But with J old school recipe and QC could be your ticket to heaven in 5 years. I think moving to brick and mortar is a good choice in this environment... Operator gonna kill everyone... Including shorts.

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post Mar 15 2022, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Mar 15 2022, 06:40 AM)
But with J old school recipe and QC could be your ticket to heaven in 5 years. I think moving to brick and mortar is a good choice in this environment... Operator gonna kill everyone... Including shorts.
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Long term business then, since no one I am aware of is starting, few competitors.
Plenty of existing demand, hell Marshall, Mesa Boogie, Fender going to headache if their supplies stop now, not to mention the HIFI world.
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post Mar 15 2022, 06:47 AM

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Go for it bro...

If you need someone on ur team....

I don't mind...

The hifi world is where you can milk these sounds snobs for some serious cash...

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post Mar 15 2022, 06:53 AM

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http://en.psvane.com/Wap


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post Mar 15 2022, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Mar 15 2022, 06:47 AM)
Go for it bro...

If you need someone on ur team....

I don't mind...

The hifi world is where you can milk these sounds snobs for some serious cash...
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Hifi world people is like more difficult to deal with.
I imagine by direct supply to manufacturers and slowly win them over instead of having people compare your new stuff to Western Electrics, Phillips Mullard and picking faults.
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post Mar 15 2022, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Mar 15 2022, 06:53 AM)
I know PSVane, but never seen their EL34 and EL84 in person, looking at their price it can still be made to work.
So only 2 companies I am aware of still exist to make these tubes.
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post Mar 15 2022, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 15 2022, 06:53 AM)
Hifi world people is like more difficult to deal with.
I imagine by direct supply to manufacturers and slowly win them over instead of having people compare your new stuff to Western Electrics, Phillips Mullard and picking faults.
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I am in for this.

The challenge here is technical knowhow.

Maybe can use new technology to manufacture it. Can start with low volume & high end then slowly move to high volume.
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post Mar 15 2022, 08:37 AM

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looking for 408A if you have
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post Mar 15 2022, 08:39 AM

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Quantum Geist
post Mar 15 2022, 08:50 AM

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just the glass? or the parts like the transistor tubes and nixie tubes?
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post Mar 15 2022, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Mar 15 2022, 08:50 AM)
just the glass? or the parts like the transistor tubes and nixie tubes?
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The whole thing, but then again the glass part isn't that important, can sub to glass makers and focus on the more difficult vacuum and conducting parts.
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post Mar 15 2022, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Mar 15 2022, 08:37 AM)
looking for 408A if you have
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Not made anymore, can try TR1011 replacement
https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_tr1011.html
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post Mar 15 2022, 09:23 AM

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Ancient tech. Very niche industry. As you say only use for audio amplification who wants a certain sound.

Solid state all the way.

This post has been edited by Mixo Mania: Mar 15 2022, 09:24 AM

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