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TScoyouth
post Mar 13 2022, 07:41 PM, updated 4y ago

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Do they have to pay taxes or do e-filing?
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post Mar 13 2022, 07:42 PM

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why ?
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post Mar 13 2022, 07:43 PM

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they should, but, whether they do, lain cerita whistling.gif
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post Mar 13 2022, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Mar 13 2022, 07:42 PM)
why ?
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Just very curious whether LHDN actually have a way to check on shopee sellers. Besides, every month got those special date sale which shopee says generate a few million/billion in sales. Just imagine the revenue from taxes there, can easily tapao normal PCB from general staff.

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post Mar 13 2022, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 13 2022, 07:45 PM)
Just very curious whether LHDN actually have a way to check on shopee sellers.
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Now seem no.
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post Mar 13 2022, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 13 2022, 07:45 PM)
Just very curious whether LHDN actually have a way to check on shopee sellers. Besides, every month got those special date sale which shopee says generate a few million/billion in sales. Just imagine the revenue from taxes there, can easily tapao normal PCB from general staff.
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Shopee charge seller and they declare that income how u thing seller can avoid tax leh.
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post Mar 13 2022, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Mar 13 2022, 07:58 PM)
Shopee charge seller and they declare that income how u thing seller can avoid tax leh.
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there is only 2 things is certain...death and tax whistling.gif
TScoyouth
post Mar 13 2022, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Mar 13 2022, 07:58 PM)
Shopee charge seller and they declare that income how u thing seller can avoid tax leh.
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Charges from shopee can be considered tax meh?
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post Mar 13 2022, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 13 2022, 08:01 PM)
Charges from shopee can be considered tax meh?
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i think what he said is

shopee charges X amount from seller as shopee company punya revenue
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post Mar 13 2022, 08:12 PM

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Once they buy property then LHDN will know.
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post Mar 13 2022, 08:18 PM

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From what I notice, some seller create multiple account under different company name selling the same item to split the income
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post Mar 13 2022, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Mar 13 2022, 08:18 PM)
From what I notice, some seller create multiple account under different company name selling the same item to split the income
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Penny wise pound foolish , if ldhd found out the fine will be huge. Physical business also can do this , when kena fine won't be pretty.
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post Mar 13 2022, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 13 2022, 08:01 PM)
Charges from shopee can be considered tax meh?
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Shopee generate income from seller , and they pay tax for that income. Obviously seller cannot evade tax la just matter of when kena audit je .
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post Mar 13 2022, 08:31 PM

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I've got shop so we issues receipt for Shopee sales, technically they all go into the same account bro
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post Mar 13 2022, 08:32 PM

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Shopee pays your revenue to your bank account. All transaction will go through bank negara no?
ListenToTheWind
post Mar 13 2022, 08:40 PM

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Uncle last year paid about rm50k tax selling barang on Shopee
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post Mar 13 2022, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Mar 13 2022, 08:40 PM)
Uncle last year paid about rm50k tax selling barang on Shopee
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Wow. Was the tax paid based on company revenue or individual income?
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post Mar 13 2022, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 13 2022, 09:36 PM)
Wow. Was the tax paid based on company revenue or individual income?
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Unker pasar malam seller. The tax is paid base on income
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post Mar 13 2022, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Mar 13 2022, 09:38 PM)
Unker pasar malam seller. The tax is paid base on income
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Wow. All the best to u uncle.
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post Mar 13 2022, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 13 2022, 09:44 PM)
Wow. All the best to u uncle.
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Thank you
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post Mar 13 2022, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Mar 13 2022, 08:27 PM)
Penny wise pound foolish , if ldhd found out the fine will be huge. Physical business also can do this , when kena fine won't be pretty.
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Give them green paper in 20k to settle can already... purple paper they won't accept
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post Mar 13 2022, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Mar 13 2022, 10:18 PM)
Give them green paper in 20k to settle can already... purple paper they won't accept
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what green paper, purple paper?
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post Mar 13 2022, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Mar 13 2022, 08:40 PM)
Uncle last year paid about rm50k tax selling barang on Shopee
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Pm sifu how to become seller in shopee. Where to get stock to sell? Im jobless haiks.
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post Mar 13 2022, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Mar 13 2022, 10:59 PM)
Pm  sifu how to become seller in shopee. Where to get stock to sell? Im jobless haiks.
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Uncle get stock from local distributor.
But don't blindly get stock. You get small-small quantity to test first.

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post Mar 13 2022, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Mar 13 2022, 08:27 PM)
Penny wise pound foolish , if ldhd found out the fine will be huge. Physical business also can do this , when kena fine won't be pretty.
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this plenty of business use this method to evade tax...
got 1 customer,
for each branch use different company, but shop name same....

also the developer at my area,
1 project 1 company,
but taukey all same....

got one very ccb punya developer...
each sales agent manage around 20 shell company...
and they dont want pay the debt own to my boss....
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post Mar 13 2022, 11:22 PM

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they should, but they dont
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post Mar 13 2022, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 13 2022, 10:54 PM)
what green paper, purple paper?
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If you don't know what i m talking about, you were a good boy & law abiding citizen. The lesser you know the better...
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post Mar 14 2022, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 13 2022, 11:21 PM)
this plenty of business use this method to evade tax...
got 1 customer,
for each branch use different company, but shop name same....

also the developer at my area,
1 project 1 company,
but taukey all same....

got one very ccb punya developer...
each sales agent manage around 20 shell company...
and they dont want pay the debt own to my boss....
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Those pro lol
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post Mar 14 2022, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Mar 13 2022, 11:17 PM)
Uncle get stock from local distributor.
But don't blindly get stock. You get small-small quantity to test first.
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They will layan small seller like me?
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post Mar 14 2022, 01:28 AM

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my friend sell 2 packs instant noodles to singapore considered export no need pay tax


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post Mar 14 2022, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Mar 14 2022, 01:08 AM)
They will layan small seller like me?
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They will layan whoever give them money
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post Mar 14 2022, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 13 2022, 07:45 PM)
Just very curious whether LHDN actually have a way to check on shopee sellers. Besides, every month got those special date sale which shopee says generate a few million/billion in sales. Just imagine the revenue from taxes there, can easily tapao normal PCB from general staff.
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bro

dont worry.

https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/new-tax-...as-budget-2022/



Tax identification number


To broaden the tax base, the government will introduce a tax identification number (TIN) for taxpayers in 2022. The TIN will be automatically issued to every person and will become a requirement to be disclosed in all types of transaction documents.

Keyword:
- ALL type of transaction documents will require your TIN. That includes all bank transfers will require your TIN.
- Everyone will get a TIN. Technically that is everyone 18 years old and above.


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I think most likely the gomen will enforce this after GE15

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post Mar 14 2022, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 13 2022, 11:21 PM)
this plenty of business use this method to evade tax...
got 1 customer,
for each branch use different company, but shop name same....

also the developer at my area,
1 project 1 company,
but taukey all same....

got one very ccb punya developer...
each sales agent manage around 20 shell company...
and they dont want pay the debt own to my boss....
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they got shysters loyars to handle those stuff rclxm9.gif

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Mar 14 2022, 09:21 AM
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post Mar 14 2022, 09:23 AM

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Good question, how about those online seller selling products through fb/ whatsapp etc? No kena tax?
TScoyouth
post Mar 14 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 14 2022, 09:13 AM)
bro

dont worry.

https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/new-tax-...as-budget-2022/

Tax identification number


To broaden the tax base, the government will introduce a tax identification number (TIN) for taxpayers in 2022. The TIN will be automatically issued to every person and will become a requirement to be disclosed in all types of transaction documents.

Keyword:
- ALL type of transaction documents will require your TIN. That includes all bank transfers will require your TIN.
- Everyone will get a TIN. Technically that is everyone 18 years old and above.
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I think most likely the gomen will enforce this after GE15
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wow. seems more comprehensive than GST.
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post Mar 14 2022, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 14 2022, 09:25 AM)
wow. seems more comprehensive than GST.
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Of course.LHDN got power to check everything that you own. where you income come from. how can your bank got rm2.6B from donation , and so on.

this, together with Digital Ringgit ( ala Digital Yuan ), well, you cant hide at all, anymore.

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China makes digital yuan transfers as easy as using a phone

Currency pilot program to launch in Suzhou as JD.com jumps on board

BEIJING -- China will expand trials of its digital yuan Friday evening with a feature letting individuals send money to each other by just touching their smartphones together, broadening use of the new currency beyond physical stores.

Up to 1,000 people in Suzhou will participate in a test of the new function -- which can be used even without an internet connection -- alongside a digital yuan "lottery" in the city. The goal is to make sending electronic money feel like having physical cash change hands. Huawei Technologies has rolled out phones that support the feature.

A successful test would bring China a step closer to its goal of a full-fledged launch by the time the Winter Olympics are held here in February 2022.

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post Mar 14 2022, 09:35 AM

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online business would be another income for government, LHDN will implement this, just matter of time only, they hire many experts from big 4 and they paid well.

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post Mar 14 2022, 09:50 AM

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dun report, then later complain here there cannot pinjam loan

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post Mar 14 2022, 09:55 AM

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Yayness I will be out of Malaysia by then. Meanwhile you guys enjoy 😜
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post Aug 16 2025, 11:49 AM

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So sad. After take in all commissions payable to shopee or lazada, the fees are about 25%

 

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