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TSjasondotcom
post Sep 23 2007, 11:46 AM, updated 18y ago

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I wanna tune the amp a bit. but i dun understand quite what im looking at here. I want the bass to be sound more like "biji biji" kinda output. but i want those low thunder kinda sound too...

some songs i here, the bass is kinda ermm.... low that i dun hear the biji biji sound. and some biji biji sound like a bit too much.... please help or advise me please please!!! icon_question.gif

my amp specs are
1200watts 4 channel @85 watts rms
subs rated at 500 watts (rms should be lower la of cos.)


See the settings in the pics below and advise me what to set / change...

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post Sep 23 2007, 12:24 PM

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Just select LPF on your rear output to your subwoofer.
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post Sep 23 2007, 06:09 PM

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Do u play active or pasive?
What is ur amp frequency select?
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post Sep 23 2007, 07:20 PM

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From the photo above, i assume that your woofer is connected to the Rear Channel of the amplifier. Set the switch to LPF, then set it to approx. 80Hz and set the Bass EQ to 12dB.

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post Sep 23 2007, 08:12 PM

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lpf at 60Hz or below... bass eq 0db...
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post Sep 23 2007, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 23 2007, 06:09 PM)
Do u play active or pasive?
What is ur amp frequency select?
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i prefer active. my amp freq. select? i dunno. eh im a newbie in the world of ICE la thats why im asking stupid questions here. cry.gif


Added on September 23, 2007, 11:17 pm
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lpf at 60Hz or below... bass eq 0db...


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  From the photo above, i assume that your woofer is connected to the Rear Channel of the amplifier. Set the switch to LPF, then set it to approx. 80Hz and set the Bass EQ to 12dB.



humm.... so which is which now? hahaha...


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post Sep 24 2007, 12:23 AM

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for LPF, the lower you set the Hz means it will cut out sounds from higher Hz. if you want the biji2 and low thunder sounds, sets it as low as to your liking.

ok, this is assuming you got woofer connected to channel you set it to LPF, if it's only normal 6" or 3x9" speaker all you going to hear is "pek pek" sounds. tongue.gif
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post Sep 24 2007, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Sep 23 2007, 11:14 PM)
i prefer active. my amp freq. select? i dunno. eh im a newbie in the world of ICE la thats why im asking stupid questions here.  cry.gif


Added on September 23, 2007, 11:17 pm
humm.... so which is which now? hahaha...
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follow craziechild one...

LPF at 80 Hz very booming..

Try to set frequency sub below 60Hz ...
And set your mid HP above the LP
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post Sep 24 2007, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 24 2007, 06:04 PM)
follow craziechild one...

LPF at 80 Hz very booming..

Try to set frequency sub below 60Hz ...
And set your mid HP above the LP
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ok. i will try all the settings u guys mentioned earlier. so that means i turn the lpf knob towards 50hz right?

what about the bass EQ? got 0, 6 and 12db. whats that?

btw, added a pic into the post above, of my ported sub in which i found out later that sealed sounds better. so i stuffed the port with a folded sponge (folded thick)



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post May 8 2008, 06:46 PM

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i set it at 50hz. that is the lowest my amp could go. my subbie is a sealed box.

btw, the bass EQ is what? i see mine got 0, 6, 12.
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post May 8 2008, 11:28 PM

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that one is the Q factor of the bass freq. normally... have to read your manual to determine it exactly...

but my advise... set it to 0db... that way the sub bass would sound more natural... but do try on various setting to determine what suits you best...

also try to lower the gain and turn it up until you get a biji biji sub bass at the optimum volume...
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post May 9 2008, 05:48 PM

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Bro, if you don't have the 'ears' & 'sound-physics' to this, better leave it to somebody who can do the job correctly for you so as you'd get the proper staging for the front & rear.
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post May 9 2008, 05:56 PM

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trust your own ears... tuning is not rocket science... just the matter of getting the right sound faster or later...
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post May 9 2008, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(craziechild @ May 9 2008, 05:56 PM)
trust your own ears... tuning is not rocket science... just the matter of getting the right sound faster or later...
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ok i understand. diff ppl diff listening pref.

ok so abit of the technical side. I believe u have seen my amp adjustment panel. I do not quite understand the following:

1. LPF 50hz to 120hz.
2. Level min to max
3. Bass EQ 0, 6, 12.

Can someone explain it in details for me? Sorry laa... very very "green" in this kinda things. hehehehe.... i only know how to listen not adjust... cool.gif

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post May 9 2008, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ May 9 2008, 10:20 PM)

Can someone explain it in details for me? Sorry laa... very very "green" in this kinda things. hehehehe.... i only know how to listen not adjust...  cool.gif
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Bro, you've got a long way to go-lol. 1st you'll have to learn how to adjust before you learn how to listen. My suggestion is to take you current setup to somebody who has a 'RTA' meter to get tune to its 'max' capability, than you listen to it & comment. That's something here to start with how your 'ears' measure-up to the RTA settings. shakehead.gif

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post May 10 2008, 12:29 AM

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1. LPF=Low Pass Filter: which filters out the freq of the signal feeded into the amp... Low pass means it only lets any freq. in the music signal that is lower that what you have set gone through and be amplified and drive the drivers...

Level: other words = gain. this is how sensitive would the amp react towards the signal feeded... the higher the gain, the more sensitive it is towards every signal feeded... beware when setting this area... start from the lowest point upwards... distortion mainly is because gain set too high...

bass EQ: well this one you have to understand more about the EQ then you can understand this... mainly is like the "bass" in your 5750... +1,+2,+3 this is the same thing.. just that its for the specific channel only while the 5750 is for the whole music signal...

cleared your mind now? flaming welcomed...

cheers...
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post May 10 2008, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(craziechild @ May 10 2008, 12:29 AM)
1. LPF=Low Pass Filter: which filters out the freq of the signal feeded into the amp... Low pass means it only lets any freq. in the music signal that is lower that what you have set gone through and be amplified and drive the drivers...

Level: other words = gain. this is how sensitive would the amp react towards the signal feeded... the higher the gain, the more sensitive it is towards every signal feeded... beware when setting this area... start from the lowest point upwards... distortion mainly is because gain set too high...

bass EQ: well this one you have to understand more about the EQ then you can understand this... mainly is like the "bass" in your 5750... +1,+2,+3 this is the same thing.. just that its for the specific channel only while the 5750 is for the whole music signal...

cleared your mind now? flaming welcomed...

cheers...
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Your comments on the "Level" thingy. No wonder now i lower my gain, the bass dun sound that "hard" anymore that causes headache. I set my lpf to around 60hz.

Your comments on "Bass EQ". what the heck is a 5750? shocking.gif hahaha.... anyway, i set mine to 12 already.


I am clearing my mind....lots to learn. cool2.gif


Added on May 10, 2008, 12:47 am
QUOTE(MobyDick @ May 9 2008, 11:49 PM)
Bro, you've got a long way to go-lol. 1st you'll have to learn how to adjust before you learn how to listen. My suggestion is to take you current setup to somebody who has a 'RTA' meter to get tune to its 'max' capability, than you listen to it & comment. That's something here to start with how your 'ears' measure-up to the RTA settings. shakehead.gif
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Now what is a RTA meter? lol.... yea i got hell lotsa things to learn. Hope u guy dun tembak me when i ask stupid questions in here....

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post May 10 2008, 05:26 AM

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like nike said... "just do it". no harm going to be done. wrst come to worst just ask somebody for help la. there's always a first time.
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post May 10 2008, 11:37 AM

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sorry... my mind too tired related to another thread... 5750 is a HU... hehe... anyway... like your Hu de EQ the bass part... you can +1,+2+3 like that... the bass EQ is the same... just that it "adds" towards the unfiltered freq. while the rest of the music did not being "added"...

RTA is Real Time Analyser... this one is normally competitor used when tuning EQ for a linear overall music spectrum... some liked the linear sound... some may not... but SQ competition time if you have a linear sound you have extra points... depends on whether it is one of the judging criteria or not la... hehe...

cheers...
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post May 12 2008, 03:34 PM

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im a noob too.. but dont worry.. as said, its not rocket science

my LPF was set at 80 b4 too. meaning to say, sound that with frequency 80 and below (lower freq usually produce bass) will be process by the amp. strong stub2 sound is around this freq, 80. deeper bass is at lower freq. and my prev setting is higher in Bass EQ

now i change to sub 60 and tune the Bass EQ to 0.. i dont have strong stub2.. but nice and clean low bass. lower the bass, less the stub.. but if u really increase the EQ gain, which usually will increase the power of bass at 45hz, u will have a really deep and strong bass that can 'gegar' ur jantung. my setup cannot boost that strong as i dont use any sub enclosure. its still ok, as i'm more into midbass (which can produce more full surround sound)

once u understand the concept, u can tune the sound to your liking

 

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