A lot of users here still using ancient 5-40 thick goo oil. Like everything else in malaysia many are stuck in the 90s mindset. If your car was designed for thin oil use the thin oil.
Bought Shell full synthetic oil from GIANT
Bought Shell full synthetic oil from GIANT
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Mar 5 2022, 09:00 PM
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A lot of users here still using ancient 5-40 thick goo oil. Like everything else in malaysia many are stuck in the 90s mindset. If your car was designed for thin oil use the thin oil. ceo684 liked this post
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Mar 6 2022, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 5 2022, 11:21 PM) but when manufacturer select which oil viscosity suitable for that engine, did manufacturer test the engine for 20years before they mass-produced those engine? there is this thing called accelerated testing load. believe or don't, but they detail all the methodology, it is likely much more strenous than your average driving load for 20 years of mileage.no right? but thats okay you can always *repair* the engine so that it could use that suggested oil viscosity at 12:00, they simulate cold start stop wear on camshaft valve surface 24000 times Also, there are plenty of Jap engines with more than 20 years and half million km with oils based on what would be considered 'thin' viscosity by the dinosaurs of 40 years ago (10-30W used to be considerd thin by those 20-50W guys). I am confident the same will be said in 20 years time (actually 0-20W has been in the market almost 10 years already, Idemitsu introduced it USA in 2010). This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Mar 6 2022, 12:13 AM |
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Mar 6 2022, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 6 2022, 12:53 AM) and yet engine still leaks oil. my car 5 years old running 0-20w oil from day 1. no leaks.like it or not rubber/silicon can still harden over time which contributes to holes and crack. my father car also one of the case, 2 years already leak oil eventhough using 5w-30 oil. if use 0w-16 i guess the chance for it to happen to happen even larger. but yeah2, technology advanced over time, someone might already inventing silicon that can stands large temperature over long period of time and not affected by moisture. if engine leak oil because of silicon/rubber issues whatever viscosity oil also will go thru. I'm guessing you are talking about valve covers as these are the most common for oil leaks due to this issue. People normally concern about thin viscosity oil is on the main bearing journals, those are metal to metal surface riding on a very very thin film of oil. Also there’s a belief that as engines wear out the piston bore clearance becomes larger, and that thicker oils will leak thru less into the combustion chamber. This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Mar 6 2022, 01:39 AM |
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Mar 6 2022, 06:29 AM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 6 2022, 01:57 AM) 5 years is too short to judge brah. how the pomen confirm is head gasket? can see oil leaking out between the block and head? if oil leaking into the coolant that is bad enough d. (there is actually a tool to confirm head gasket leak, see video link) I dont think your head gasket issue caused by oil viscosity, FYI, head gasket now all are made from MLS (multi layer steel), no rubber or silicon inside.my car only start leaking after 18 years, change from 5w30/10w30 to 10w40 baru okay but still got abit leak. go ask pomen they said not recommended to change head gasket (valve cover gasket is not a concern, can easily replaced), unless got major issue(e.g engine overheat) or engine stop working. most people that not driving like mad man don't really care about metal to metal contact, as long it got lubricant(e.g decent oil level) okay already. main reason the manufacturers want to switch to thinner oil is the fuel efficiency gain. This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Mar 6 2022, 06:34 AM |
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