Catatan Portugis menyatakan jong-jong Melayu lebih besar dan menggerunkan daripada kapal perang Portugis.

Catatan China pula menyatakan jong-jong Melayu tidak dibenarkan berlabuh di perlabuhan China kerana terlalu besar dan akan menggangu laluan kapal lain.

Jong terbesar Melayu mampu membawa 500 tan muatan dan hampir 1000 orang penumpang dan panjangnya hampir 100 meter!

Ibnu Batutta menyatakan kapal China terbesar dipanggil Chuan, dan beliau berkata jong Melayu lebih besar berbanding Chuan!

Al Fonso De Albuquerque sendiri sewaktu melihat jong-jong Melayu yang besar itu menggelarnya sebagai “Penggoncang Dunia”!

Dan anak anak kapal Portugis akan berteriak memanggil “Espanto del Mundo” terror dunia apabila berselisih dengan Geliung kepunyaan Sultan Iskandar Muda Acheh Anda boleh bayangkan betapa hebat mega structure Melayu lama!

Orang orang Cina mengelarkan Djong besar melayu yang mempunyai 7 layar sebagai “Kun Lun Po (Bo) kun lun ertinya “kepulauan di bawah angin” atau “negara selatan” dan tercatat pernah belayar sehingga ke Syria. (Kang Tai,260M dan Wan Cheng,300 M)

Manakala orang orang Greek dalam buku “Geographia” menggelarkan Djong besar melayu sebagai “Kolandiaponta” (Plotemy,100 M)

Tapi logic thinking mana pergi semua binaan hebat ni? Mana ilmunya? Menurut Prof Maguin, menjelang akhir abad ke 16 dan 17 teknologi pembuatan jong Melayu makin hilang dan akhirnya pupus.

Kenapa? Kita salahkan penjajah! First of all semua manuskrip kita samada dibakar atau dicuri. Yes kesemuanya, hal yang sama terjadi pada tamadun hebat lain, apabila dijajah, ilmu mereka sekali dicuri.

Apabila Melayu dijajah, mereka tiada waktu yang aman lagi untuk membina jong-jong besar. Nak bina kapal sebesar Titanic tu pun makan bertahun. Inikan jong-jong gergasi Melayu yang memerlukan sumber; tenaga dan harta yang banyak.

Melaka semestinya bukan permulaan kehebatan tamadun Melayu tapi kejatuhan Melaka sememangnya menjadi titik noktah keagungan bangsa Melayu. Jatuhnya Melaka, maka Melayu semuanya dijinakkan dan dihinjak sehingga kini.

Satu lagi jangan ingat perkataan Jong itu dari China. Jong ialah bahasa Melayu asli merujuk kepada kapal besar Melayu. Lalu diambil oleh barat menjadi Junk.

Ya Melayu tak bina bangunan besar-besar but we live with the sea, our hearts are with the oceans. Junks are our mega structures!

https://demimalaiu.com/jong-melayu-tidak-di...f0SQltzn4oMZii0

wtfish is jong melayu?

Jong jong inai mak ipong rajawali~~~~

Never mentioned also in Sejarah Malaysia Jong Melayu. If really true, Sejarah Malaysia sudah heboh-heboh.

Mahjong tu adalah.

This post has been edited by andylyc: Mar 4 2022, 05:06 PM

Who cares. It's the past. It's not like people today is responsible for the glory days back then. Only losers gets high on nostalgia, even worse when it's not even theirs.

If the ships were so big, how did they lost to the puny Portuguese ships?

kapal malayan?

all i know is mawar eva de jongh

In 1575 siege, Aceh used 40 two-masted galleys with Turkish captains carrying 200–300 soldier of Turk, Arab, Deccanis, and Aceh origins. The state galleys (ghorab istana) of Aceh, Daya, and Pedir is said to carry 10 meriam, 50 lela, and 120 cecorong (not counting the ispinggar). Smaller galley carry 5 meriam, 20 lela, and 50 cecorong.[11]: 165  Western and native sources mention that Aceh had 100–120 galleys at any time (not counting the smaller fusta and galiot), spread from Daya (west coast) to Pedir (east coast). One galley captured by Portuguese in 1629 during Iskandar Muda's reign is very large, and it was reported there were total 47 of them. She reached 100 m in length and 17 m in breadth, had 3 masts with square sails and topsails, propelled by 35 oars on each side and able to carry 700 men. It is armed with 98 guns: 18 large cannon (five 55-pounders at the bow, one 25-pounder at the stern, the rest were 17 and 18-pounders), 80 falcons, and many swivel guns. The ship is called "Espanto do Mundo" (terror of the universe), which probably a free translation from Cakradonya (Cakra Dunia). The Portuguese reported that it was bigger than anything ever built in the Christian world, and that its castle could compete with that of galleons

Aceh punya, sibuk nak claim.

If you understand malay 'cerita-dongeng', you will understand most are bullsh*tx!

Jong asalnya Jawa
Ohwai

melayu dan ketum.....

sila pandang ke depan

bukan ke belakang

dont get the logic, tanah melayu was a small place, compare to all other nations, which is like few hundred times bigger, so those nations can use small ships while TM need to use big ass ship ?

How times have changed... now make small warship also kenot finish

But melayu is not trader by default
U cant find melayutown in other part of the world..

China moi too small for Malaysian dong? Yamete-kudasai!!

you will know cerita dongeng when it is from some oyen writer. tiup sampai melangit but still lost to little Portugal. Claim melaka like some big port but actually is kampung. wasting your youth learning about some so call big important malaysia history

This post has been edited by Avex: Mar 4 2022, 05:15 PM

Javanese, bukan melayu pun

Melayu ego tinggi. Semua salah orang lain. X pernah salah kan diri sendiri. Even 500-600 years ago also diagung-agungkan and syok sendiri.

don't want to know history. stop!

Big sampan

ok

Chuan is 船？

I just boughted 3 blue eyes white dragon.
Am I super virgin loser?

Don't say make

Buy submarine also nowhere to be seen, really stealth submarine

Aceh > melayu

coz not equiped with meriam?

that is acheh ship not melaka

Go Sepanggar Bay there sometimes can see wan. Serious.

Now is jeng jeng jeng.jpeg.....

With 7 sails mafaka 7 sails

Sampan made of steel and capable of carrying 50000 containers is still a sampan

Means can songlap more item inside ship???

ITU God damned beach whale.
Edit: sub museum in melaka


ltz lost his virginity there
He stuck in long hard rod with a bunch of seamen
Always wet : hehe:

This post has been edited by EBBattlefield: Mar 4 2022, 05:27 PM

FPSO = Sampan sedut minyak
Pipelay ship = Sampan berak paip
Aircraft carrier = Sampan bawak jet

Meanwhile today

Nampak salah xnampak pun salah apa lagi u mauuu

Lol besar for what? fast forward to now 2022? Apa sudah jadi?

Tug boat = dating sampan? syie9^_^

Jong ka Sampan? cakap betul2!

Zaman kegemilangan! So need to remember and be proud!

As long as not sink to bottom of the sea, no problem
Boat can sink, as long as can float back up is ok.

I rather believe UFO and alien story than this bullshit

jong besar tu isi ketum ke?
sampai hari ini masih berkhayal

This is a song, right? Youtubing it now...

All this syiok sendiri article or to make the Malay feel bad?

Sinkie one of biggest ship builder in the world
Sinkie national language is melei
Hence Sinkie is melei

Owai

Big but never able to navigate around the world?

Sampan sundal, ari ni tarik satu besok tarik lain. Kekadang satu ari tarik banyak.

Depends can buy jong to park in China or not

Habis2 portugis sapu melaka semua. TOPKEK

Can't imagine the size of jong melayu. As big as modern yatch? Billionaire size boat?

too big not flexible, cannot sail fast

Admiral Cheng Ho ships not big enough? Ok... then please promote this 'finding' to the world

most claims fall apart when u start questioning and challenging the logic

that's why jgn tanya soalan susah was invented

On second thought, you guys think he talking about penises?

Make stories about the past because you’re really shit in the present

Satu lagi jangan ingat perkataan Jong itu dari China. Jong ialah bahasa Melayu asli merujuk kepada kapal besar Melayu. Lalu diambil oleh barat menjadi Junk.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

jong
/jɒŋ/
SOUTH AFRICAN
noun
1.
HISTORICAL
a young black male servant.

Projek songlap besar yo.

Lancau. Chuan simply means boat. It doesnt specifically mean anything big to that effect

Edit: maybe some exaggeration in the article, but logically speaking, it would be difficult for a small sampan to travel from Malacca to China

This post has been edited by loserguy: Mar 4 2022, 06:41 PM

Dulu takde songlap, maka bole la bikin besar2 camtu.

Tiny but hard vs big but soft.....

So that time Nusantara already got aircraft carrier

kertas mahjong

If rangka Dino can be found, how come can't find Jong melai. Besar pulak tu. Pelik.

ya dulu kuat tapi skrg apa mcam sudah ?
apa sebab ?
salah dap cina ka ?

Sarahan LGE guna Time Stone to travel back 600 years and cause the collapse of Malacca

ya ya ya


tak habis habis dengan kisah silam. bongkak tak kena zaman.

recycled.

don't be surprised those old structures in kampung and old towns are still standing thanks to woods salvaged from those olden ships. buka tanah, pecah kapal, bina ______.

batu bersurat terengganu were accidentally found from flipping stones at the bottom of stairs of surau or masjid, if not mistaken.

I pity more loser right now that getting high on other country success to condemn their own countryman. Instead of actually contributing for the development of the country

Same camp. No more, no less.

but Iskandar Muda of Aceh reigned around 1607 till 1636

that is like 100 years after the fall of Malacca

this is more like Indonesia History lesson

Kingdom of Aceh Darussalam - 1496–1903


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghali_(ship)

One galley captured by Portuguese in 1629 during Iskandar Muda's reign is very large, and it was reported there were total 47 of them.

She reached 100 m in length and 17 m in breadth, had 3 masts with square sails and topsails, propelled by 35 oars on each side and able to carry 700 men.

It is armed with 98 guns: 18 large cannon (five 55-pounders at the bow, one 25-pounder at the stern, the rest were 17 and 18-pounders), 80 falcons, and many swivel guns. The ship is called "Espanto do Mundo" (terror of the universe), which probably a free translation from Cakradonya (Cakra Dunia).

The Portuguese reported that it was bigger than anything ever built in the Christian world, and that its castle could compete with that of galleons

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Mar 4 2022, 07:23 PM

Legend has it pahlawan melayu zaman purba fought intergalactic wars with other alien species particularly the reptilians and won thus chased them away to pleiades stars where they seek refuge from the mighty malay warriors of earth

I tot hackline iz back

That is tuck boat= Boat to make you drop your soappants tonight

This post has been edited by Syie9^_^: Mar 4 2022, 07:39 PM

A fairly convenient excuse for the lack of record.

So they were Jedi who can perform Vulcan mind trick? 😁

More than that..they actually the direct descendent of arishem

never heard of jong nor a 500 tan big vessel, got gambar or anything like ship remain?

Jong Melayu = Sampan in reality

am I the only one who vaguely remembers learning about djong/jong in Sejarah or am I making up those memories?

jong not malay specific but nusantara.

https://ms.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jong_(kapal_Nusantara)

but you know lah, anything about malay, the chinese kids here will say fake, no proof etc because CNN didnt do a expose about it. dunno what to feel tertindas about a boat anyways

I believe this story. Very legit since from kopitiam.

Last2 degenerate into sampah like UMNO.

Left nothing to brag so they just dig whatever in the past.

macam fans liverpool dah bunyi dia...

Wow hebat, terkuat di dunia, tapi dijajah juga

Malayan Jong colourised.



What a piece of jong

If Melaka so powerful why have to pay tribute to China?

Oh wait, is it not tribute but actually derma? Melaka too rich and China is poor so they every year give them money as derma?

This post has been edited by mrg220t: Mar 4 2022, 10:09 PM

wumao ejek melayu

Aceh, Indo, malaysia same same only. Serumpun

Lol then what about the 5000 years thingie? About 10 times longer 🤣

you do know we used to pirate their southern coast with [i]prahu's[/], where they will vacate inland, until we leave, right ?

Too big like elephant so got shot down by the Portuguese elf named Legoland and his friend Gimlin Bunyan

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Fakta sejarah untuk teladan
Masa lalu sudah berlepas
Masa depan perlu diutamakan