Kinda

big ship need bigger shipyard
so where that historical shipyard?

dun blame penjajah. we no longer build big ships because of the law of diminishing returns. at a certain stage, it's just plain dumb to keep building bigger version of things. the only thing it achieves is stroking the e-penor of the architect and builder

Fitnah! It was superior tech!

Talk and talk but still need tongkat and 51%.
And so scared of minority, despite police and military, govt all of certain ethnicity.
See cross worried, the word hot dog tak boleh, Timah get aggravated, is this the sign of people who are confident and great, who can make it on their own?

Sorry necro thread.
Watched this video on YouTube. Interesting to know Melaka's ufti doesn't include military protection.

didnt think it was true but seems to be corroborated by AI:

"Yes, historical accounts indicate that Malay jongs were notably very big, often described by European and Chinese chroniclers as being larger than the European ships of their time.
Size and Specifications
Tonnage: The average deadweight tonnage during the Majapahit era ranged from 1,200 to 1,400 tons, with some larger vessels reaching up to 2,000 tons. For comparison, the largest Portuguese ships of the era, such as the Flor do Mar, were around 400 tons.
Dimensions: Estimates based on historical records suggest lengths of approximately 40-60 meters (around 130-200 feet), with the largest possibly exceeding 80 meters (over 260 feet).
Construction: Jongs were massively built with four-layered planking, making their hulls resilient to cannon fire from smaller Portuguese ships. They featured advanced construction techniques like bulkheads (watertight compartments) and were built with tropical hardwoods.
Capacity: They were designed as large cargo and passenger vessels, capable of carrying hundreds of people and substantial amounts of goods for long-distance trade across the Indian Ocean and beyond.
Historical Context
European Accounts: Early European visitors, like the Portuguese, were highly impressed by their size. Alfonso de Albuquerque reportedly referred to the Malay ships or galleys (ghalis) as "World Shakers". Reports mention that the deck of a jong was higher than the tall aft-castle of a Portuguese ship.
Origin: The term "jong" or "jung" is of Javanese origin and these ships were widely used by various seafaring ethnic groups in the Southeast Asian archipelago, including the Malays.
Influence: Some scholars argue that the impressive size and advanced design of the jong, particularly the balance-lug sail, influenced European ship designs during the Age of Exploration."

jong apa jong.. jong crocodile farm saya tahu la

Mcm argue with flat earthers, wasting time and energy 😁

Cheung Po Tsai

So 3602[number string] has been infatuated by this topic since namelessone days

Tolong terbit keluaran cerita dongeng Kisah Sailor Malaya ke Dynasty China. Ramai perminat oren ni.

Sos?

should already cukur he kept the string short lol

kantoiiiii

WTF necro

Won’t be surprised if it was Indian. Like Parameswara, etc..

Because of trading.

Just like now cargo ship generally bigger than warships/patrol ship but they have less combat power.

That’s why even Portuguese ship smaller but wins.

And the articles twisted the facts 7 layer masts ship actually refers to Zheng He treasure ships. Jong is big but compare to Chinese naval = mid size level.

But yeah these ppl like to mix facts with mythology them combine malay becum invincible

Pungpang hebat

Tapi mintak tolong Maharaja Ming gertak Siam.

Pirraaahhh maaabbbuuukkkk!!!!!

***Tambah lagi***

Kalau terer sgt apsal tak hantar je keris terbang bunoh raja Siam masa tu? Kapal jong boleh sampai China tapi tak berani serang Krung Thep Mahanakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Ayuthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udomratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Piman Awatan Sathit Sakkathattiya Witsanukam Prasit?

This post has been edited by andrewhtf: Nov 25 2025, 12:27 PM

just when i thought they couldn't get any more pathetic, they magnificently outdo themselves!

moving along now....