This post has been edited by bananajoe: Mar 3 2022, 09:54 PM

how many apps using avx-512 in first place?
console emulators?

I think this is more related to professional scope right ?



More for these kind of apps



This post has been edited by bananajoe: Mar 3 2022, 09:59 PM

Intel succeeded in baiting AMD to support AVX-512 so obviously they pull off the plug

But that doesn't make sense right. People will just move to AMD then.

Avx instructions super heat generators in overclocking mode

An anonymous source tipped us off that newer batches of Intel's non-K processors (models that aren't overclockable) appeared to have AVX-512 support disabled entirely. We followed up with Intel, and the company issued the following statement to Tom's Hardware:

Buy K punya if want AVX-512 - but eventually also tarak

or

Buy server chip

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 3 2022, 10:06 PM

the only reason why intel disabling it because the small cores dont have those instruction set.
so to avoid incompatibility, they just axe the feature instead.

even the upcoming raptor lake wont have it too.

the use case is really niche, doubt that will bring tons of advantage for amd if they decide to support it.
i rather manufacturer just focus improving existing SSE or avx/avx2 performance instead. amd for example can start experiment with their own 6 wide decode front end

well duh, its a wider instruction.
for sure power usage per clock increase a bit.

Good point!

For small business joe like me, will be expensive

so whoever that have 12700-12900k/kf chip is considered a collector item or not?

come, im willing to trade my 12700kf with a faster processor that have this avx512 hardware removed.

xeon e price actually quite ok ; but dunno mobo price la

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 3 2022, 10:23 PM

I think overall cost for xeon will be a bomb 😂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions

scroll down to software section, got some listed with avx 512 support.
looks like RPCS3, the PS3 emu can use it.

Besides that, nothing else that is consumer/prosumer uses avx 512. Intel nuking it is fine. There is barely any use for it. And in applications that do use it, power consumption and thermals increase alot for very little gain.

Heres an article from Phoronix, I directly link to the Power and Thermals page.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=arti...ke-avx512&num=6

Also, if you really need it in your line of work, you can afford a Xeon.

AMD will get it in their Zen 4 cores. They never said anything about it being in the consumer Ryzen CPUs. It might only be available in their prosumer/workstation CPUS, Threadripper or EPYC CPUS only.

This post has been edited by thewan: Mar 4 2022, 06:13 AM