Why are recruiters ghosting on job applicants? Like is giving an update or replying an email so difficult?
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Ask me Anything, 10 years in Recruitment (KL & SG)
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Feb 21 2022, 01:06 PM
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Why are recruiters ghosting on job applicants? Like is giving an update or replying an email so difficult? yellowpika liked this post
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Feb 21 2022, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Feb 21 2022, 01:59 PM) Depends on the role, but some of them have literally too many to manage. Sometimes the recruitment system doesn't allow or have the feature to send an automated message. If the recruiter has spent time on speaking to the candidate and promise to get back to him/her the next day, and disappeared after that, is this excusable with 'too many to manage'? It's a really bad work ethics. And no one ever realise that these candidates could potentially be their fiture clients yellowpika liked this post
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Feb 21 2022, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Feb 21 2022, 04:16 PM) Have you contacted back the recruiter and asked for a status update? I have spoken to a person who headed up a recruitment firm and she specifically told me that in the market, the candidate should be the one to get back to the recruiter with a simple follow up. Again its not an excuse with their behaviour or work ethics. At the end of the day, personally I see this is as a dog-eat-dog environment and results come to those who take action. That happened long time ago. I raised this in a post because i do find the recruiters are not behaving very professionally and engaging with candidates. 'Too much on their plate' or 'too many to manage' are sinply excuses imo. Who isnt very occupied with work? Everyone is equally busy and dropping a simple email update to someone you have spoken to before shows the good work ethics and will definitely be remembered by the candidates (like i said they are all their potential clients in future). I guess it's a culture thing in recruitment field, and unfortunately it's not something i appreciate. By saying this, I myself are in the client facing role and have to constantly engage differently stakeholders at the same time.To answer your ques if i have followed up the recruiter back then, yes i had (2-3 times) and still did not get any response (ghosted i guess). I even got my friend in the same company to help emailing the recruiter and still..... I had also came across recruiters who never responded after speaking to me despite telling me that they would give m me an update the following week and then totally forgot abt it, i could not be bothered with those as well. If you cant action on something then do not ever say that you will give an update the following week when you are not actually meaning it, right? I have also seen on linkedin posts about recruiters complaining abt candidates never responded to them or showed up during interviews - I LOL-ed at that cause it seems like a karma to them. This post has been edited by ziling60: Feb 21 2022, 11:46 PM Thayaalan 14, Megatronika, and 1 other liked this post
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Feb 22 2022, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(mimikw @ Feb 22 2022, 09:06 PM) I'm a strong believer in providing closure to candidates. Even on my busiest weeks, I will make sure I reject them on our ATS (we use Greenhouse) every Friday evening so they can get closure and move on. For some that ghost candidates, maybe their companies do not have a ATS system and they do everything manually so they simply do not have time or just plain laziness. It wasnt even through a job application. They got the contacts from database and spoke abt a different job opportunities and then became not reachable. There was no job application to begin with and for the auto rejection email to come through, if u get what i mean? |
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Mar 29 2022, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(mimikw @ Mar 28 2022, 08:52 AM) Hi sorry for the late reply I have had a HR person trying to ask for my IC copy, which I refused to provide (and will only provide when i accepted the job offer) and she did not want proceed with my application hence I withdrew. It is by a US MNC - but judging from interaction with the HR and the way she conversed (quite bad in English), they sounded like a chinaman organisation. I'd like to ask, why does the company request for an IC copy even during the initial stage of screening prior to interview? It does not make any sense - should we provide or should we not considering privacy reason?1. If this is an established company, yes they may drop you as the entire recruitment process is not complete. 2. I don't think they need to verify your salary by contacting your HR - they can do that with your recent payslips or EA form? Usually background checks are to check your CCRIS, criminal records - not so much on your work performance - that's a reference check with an ex-manager. When there is a background check, it's the final step of the process, you're pretty much hired as long as your check comes out clean! There was once an external recruiter asked for my identification document copy as well, then went MIA/not responsive at all after that. This is very bizarre and I was very concerned and i will never give anyone any of my identification doc when the job offer is not extended to me and when i have not accepted the offer. I realised that usually MNCs will not asking for any personal identification/IC copy, only those local companies or chinaman companies asked for it, they even have column abt your family members details in the application form - like what the heck do they need to know abt my father mother sister brother etc? |
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Mar 29 2022, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(fookhing @ Mar 23 2022, 09:04 AM) Do HR normally practice calling up your previous company HR for verification or background check during resume checking stage (ie not even called for interview yet)? It's not uncommon for HR ppl to do this to the candidate without candidate's consent. Some are just pure unethical. This is exactly the reason why I always refused to provide any references details during initial stage or in the application form, and just write a remarks that i will only provide when offer is extended. If the HR do not like it, I lost interest in the company and walked away. You can tell how the company is operating judging from the way HR handle things, and usually i can identify a red flags from there. |
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