3cylinder....no matter how well you design you will still feel vibration.
not sure why engineer put so many hard work on 3cylinder. whereby 4cylinder is much more superior for mass market.
CCP Hate 3-Cyl, 2022 Binyue switching to 4-cyl
CCP Hate 3-Cyl, 2022 Binyue switching to 4-cyl
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Feb 20 2022, 04:06 AM
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3cylinder....no matter how well you design you will still feel vibration. not sure why engineer put so many hard work on 3cylinder. whereby 4cylinder is much more superior for mass market. c64 liked this post
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Feb 20 2022, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 17 2022, 06:14 PM) Malaysian is not having good knowledge about car technology, yes...malaysian generally dont look at what are they getting. All were being flashed by reverse camera, 360 camera. 16" wheels, carbon printed skirting, spoiler or sunroof.these people usually only consider the Toyota/Honda/Perodua which fitted with older tech engine are more superior in the name of reliability, then when they face problem with their car its defect, but other maker facing problem would definitely be low quality material. In the end of the day, these people dominate the market hence the resale value. It is undeniably true that those Japanese brand I mentioned are more mechanic friendly with plenty parts available (Old tech ma, sure parts a lot) look at the new vios, dat engine and dat cvt |
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QUOTE(kaizoku30 @ Feb 16 2022, 01:09 AM) Kek,when I say 3 cylinder engine sucks many automotive engineer cum cap supporter come out defending shit. Now slap own face Liao. 3 cylinder engine can’t even meet their own 6th standard hence switch back to 4 cylinder. It’s right saying that china export outdated tech that no one want to Malaysia and boating fans are hype about it. Lmao You know who the fans..Later X50 no spareparts..gg..geely never care one.. |
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Feb 20 2022, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 16 2022, 07:31 AM) trying come back here and comment after 5 years Seriously, why saga is like random luck?see if there is any problems or weird noises i can guarantee u that u will say u have mine is japanese car somemore and i also have...they don't last long at all meanwhile my proton saga 14 years old soon, no such noises TLDR : 4 cylinder > 3 pot anytime Some died in years, some last for eternity. Mine has power window issue on left sides and the gear icon constantly light up even when the car have no issue running, sometime car can't start and has to wait before can run again. Other than those, it actually run pretty well. 2013 car. |
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Feb 20 2022, 09:15 AM
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Feb 20 2022, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Feb 20 2022, 04:17 AM) yes...malaysian generally dont look at what are they getting. All were being flashed by reverse camera, 360 camera. 16" wheels, carbon printed skirting, spoiler or sunroof. Its good customer have petty demanding nowadays or else UMW keep happy with their practice on our marketlook at the new vios, dat engine and dat cvt |
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Feb 20 2022, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Feb 20 2022, 08:44 AM) Seriously, why saga is like random luck? there is no luckSome died in years, some last for eternity. Mine has power window issue on left sides and the gear icon constantly light up even when the car have no issue running, sometime car can't start and has to wait before can run again. Other than those, it actually run pretty well. 2013 car. for the 18 or so year dealing with proton from driving my dad's proton waja to owning my own 14 years proton saga i can indefinitely tell u, when people say proton/campro sucks...it's user problem...not product problem they don't even take care of the car at all i cannot tell u how many time i checked their engine....no or lack of engine oil, no coolant or use water, no transmission oil proton themselves actually resolved their power window issue like 13 years ago already, my saga suffered the problem on the 1st year...thn they switch supplier...i went to SC and claimed mine...it has been the same switch since then(13 years until now) the gear icon indicates the transmission is overheating....my saga uses 4AT so i can't answer that but i do have another CVT car but never suffered this issue before since i don't drive it like a mad man the proton that last isn't that car is better built, it's because the owner took care of it people kept saying perodua last....well, kinda...it depends on how the owner took care of it as well recently buying used car, checked multiple perodua cars that suffered the same problem i mentioned above too no engine oil, no coolant or simply use water, low on transmission oil or never change before(can see from the colour) the car still running but for how long though...i straight walked away, i don't dare to buy such car yugimudo liked this post
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Feb 20 2022, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 20 2022, 10:41 AM) there is no luck Thank you so much for the icon diagnostic but it on the minute the car is started.for the 18 or so year dealing with proton from driving my dad's proton waja to owning my own 14 years proton saga i can indefinitely tell u, when people say proton/campro sucks...it's user problem...not product problem they don't even take care of the car at all i cannot tell u how many time i checked their engine....no or lack of engine oil, no coolant or use water, no transmission oil proton themselves actually resolved their power window issue like 13 years ago already, my saga suffered the problem on the 1st year...thn they switch supplier...i went to SC and claimed mine...it has been the same switch since then(13 years until now) the gear icon indicates the transmission is overheating....my saga uses 4AT so i can't answer that but i do have another CVT car but never suffered this issue before since i don't drive it like a mad man the proton that last isn't that car is better built, it's because the owner took care of it people kept saying perodua last....well, kinda...it depends on how the owner took care of it as well recently buying used car, checked multiple perodua cars that suffered the same problem i mentioned above too no engine oil, no coolant or simply use water, low on transmission oil or never change before(can see from the colour) the car still running but for how long though...i straight walked away, i don't dare to buy such car Hence, I'm going with the mentality it must be the indicator wiring problem and dont fix things that are not broke. |
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Feb 20 2022, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Feb 20 2022, 11:33 AM) Thank you so much for the icon diagnostic but it on the minute the car is started. if it's on the moment the car is startedHence, I'm going with the mentality it must be the indicator wiring problem and dont fix things that are not broke. thn u better get it checked out at the SC small problem can turn to big because those that i saw gear icon lit up are those when their cars already warmed up like stuck in traffic or in the midst of cruising on highway never i've heard it lit up once the car is started did u check if there is even fluid inside? |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 20 2022, 11:38 AM) if it's on the moment the car is started All fluid is good.thn u better get it checked out at the SC small problem can turn to big because those that i saw gear icon lit up are those when their cars already warmed up like stuck in traffic or in the midst of cruising on highway never i've heard it lit up once the car is started did u check if there is even fluid inside? It's been years like that. Go to perak, Pahang and genting no issue. I just assume wiring trip |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 20 2022, 10:41 AM) there is no luck Own a waja from 2002 to 2019, still on original fuel pump..change ATF fluid every 40k km and for some reason even changing fuel filter make mechanic shock that there is such item on the car lolfor the 18 or so year dealing with proton from driving my dad's proton waja to owning my own 14 years proton saga i can indefinitely tell u, when people say proton/campro sucks...it's user problem...not product problem they don't even take care of the car at all i cannot tell u how many time i checked their engine....no or lack of engine oil, no coolant or use water, no transmission oil proton themselves actually resolved their power window issue like 13 years ago already, my saga suffered the problem on the 1st year...thn they switch supplier...i went to SC and claimed mine...it has been the same switch since then(13 years until now) the gear icon indicates the transmission is overheating....my saga uses 4AT so i can't answer that but i do have another CVT car but never suffered this issue before since i don't drive it like a mad man the proton that last isn't that car is better built, it's because the owner took care of it people kept saying perodua last....well, kinda...it depends on how the owner took care of it as well recently buying used car, checked multiple perodua cars that suffered the same problem i mentioned above too no engine oil, no coolant or simply use water, low on transmission oil or never change before(can see from the colour) the car still running but for how long though...i straight walked away, i don't dare to buy such car Alot ppl buy a car trash it when something broke of course it's car fault yet still wanna get back full price when selling. |
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Feb 20 2022, 12:18 PM) Own a waja from 2002 to 2019, still on original fuel pump..change ATF fluid every 40k km and for some reason even changing fuel filter make mechanic shock that there is such item on the car lol bolded part felt straight to the heartAlot ppl buy a car trash it when something broke of course it's car fault yet still wanna get back full price when selling. offer price is basically market price went and check the car...so much problem....1 even need a full body knock and repaint and he still wouldn't budge on the price and kept saying that's the market price for the car i'm there like come on, the market price is if the car is in mint condition, taken care of...i have no problem paying the price if it is but not when i need to pour so much $$$ in like it's a total makeover |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 20 2022, 09:16 AM) Its good customer have petty demanding nowadays or else UMW keep happy with their practice on our market they got punished hard Recently they overtook Honda sales, but i believe is due to new honda city launch. Thats why sales has been bad for honda. Vios engine and the gearbox is such a let down. |
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Feb 20 2022, 11:33 AM) Thank you so much for the icon diagnostic but it on the minute the car is started. There is no gear indicator light on the dashboard, I think you are referring to maybe the check engine light which is amber in color.Hence, I'm going with the mentality it must be the indicator wiring problem and dont fix things that are not broke. If you have that, it means something is wrong with the car, could be throttle body, ice etc… use a diagnostic tool to scan for the fault code, it’s easy to know what is happening. |
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Feb 20 2022, 11:33 PM) they got punished hard Regardless of what is on the specs, all i can say is the City acceleration is much much better than a VIOS/Yaris which is slow poke for the previous generation. Latest i haven't try yet, so no comment.Recently they overtook Honda sales, but i believe is due to new honda city launch. Thats why sales has been bad for honda. Vios engine and the gearbox is such a let down. But VIOS does have better NVH than City. But all bling bling stuff in VIOS really put off and some of those are half baked. Feels like Ah Beng car. |
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Dulu lagi dah cakap enjin 3 silinder kurang bagus sebab gegaran dari ketidak stabilan pusingan piston. Tapi masa itu semua peminat hentam kita. Tidak mengapalah. Benda senang sahaja.. Kita sebagai pengguna boleh boikot x50 tiga piston. Pasaran membuat keputusan. Jangan taksub dengan jenama. Tunjuk kan kuasa pengguna.
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lmao, this 3 cyl still going strong
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QUOTE(c64 @ Feb 21 2022, 06:22 AM) Regardless of what is on the specs, all i can say is the City acceleration is much much better than a VIOS/Yaris which is slow poke for the previous generation. Latest i haven't try yet, so no comment. what more can u say about UMW?But VIOS does have better NVH than City. But all bling bling stuff in VIOS really put off and some of those are half baked. Feels like Ah Beng car. they only recently release the camry with 2.5L dynamic force engine with 8AT which thailand has been driving for 3-4 years already |
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