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Where do used car dealers get their capital
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 09:07 PM, updated 4y ago
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Each car they pay tens of thousands in cash straight. Millions in Cashflow. I know most going to say kongsi gelap cuci money but I wonder if got real investors pool their money to start a business in this. Anyone from this industry know?
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chinteck79
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Feb 9 2022, 09:13 PM
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start from small la
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greyPJ
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Feb 9 2022, 09:15 PM
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ya start from small
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DarkAeon
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Feb 9 2022, 09:16 PM
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menabung dari kecik bro
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kembayang
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Feb 9 2022, 09:17 PM
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mafia behind the scene
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waters
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Feb 9 2022, 09:17 PM
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I’ve wondered this as well. So much cash upfront
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Syie9^_^
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Feb 9 2022, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 10:37 PM) Each car they pay tens of thousands in cash straight. Millions in Cashflow. I know most going to say kongsi gelap cuci money but I wonder if got real investors pool their money to start a business in this. Anyone from this industry know? you not scare your car get burn?
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KineticKill
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Feb 9 2022, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 02:07 PM) Each car they pay tens of thousands in cash straight. Millions in Cashflow. I know most going to say kongsi gelap cuci money but I wonder if got real investors pool their money to start a business in this. Anyone from this industry know? Kongsi gelap are real investors too
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Feb 9 2022, 09:19 PM) Kongsi gelap are real investors too Yayaya. But come on, it can’t be every single one of them is kongsi gelap operation? I’m referring to those small independent ones you see in kajang etc not mytukar etc.
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incognitroll
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Feb 9 2022, 09:26 PM
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people dealing in cars are loaded. cars are usually 2nd most expensive purchase people made in life (after property). not only cars, bike shops too. one in SA has a youtube channel weekly update selling tens of used big bikes from 10-20 up to 100k.
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9m2w
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Feb 9 2022, 09:26 PM
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Friends bro in law is one. It's one of his ventures and he started small and grew big. He knows what are hot sellers and target demo. Old pickups he push to plantation folks, workhorse Protons to contractors and Indons etc. He also does basic ABC classification of Inventory. Fast moving shit he stocks more that the recon MPVs.
Interesting fella to talk too. And nope he's not affiliated with triads.
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SUSCincai lar
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Feb 9 2022, 09:26 PM
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daddy kasi,..
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TechnoG
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Feb 9 2022, 09:27 PM
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banks offer floor stocking facility
go google to learn more
This post has been edited by TechnoG: Feb 9 2022, 09:27 PM
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Feb 9 2022, 09:26 PM) Friends bro in law is one. It's one of his ventures and he started small and grew big. He knows what are hot sellers and target demo. Old pickups he push to plantation folks, workhorse Protons to contractors and Indons etc. He also does basic ABC classification of Inventory. Fast moving shit he stocks more that the recon MPVs. Interesting fella to talk too. And nope he's not affiliated with triads. You mean he started his operation from two three cars to those shoplot with 50 cars? That’sa few million in inventory. Banks willing to lend capital?
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Feb 9 2022, 09:27 PM) banks offer floor stocking facility go google to learn more Thanks. Finally the first nugget of info learnt.
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ycs
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Feb 9 2022, 09:31 PM
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Floor Stocking is a revolving credit facility extended to Panel car dealers for the purpose of financing the purchase of the dealers' motor vehicle stock
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rooney723
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Feb 9 2022, 09:32 PM
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bank got loan them money for cashflow, thats why they can buy cars in cash, and used car is a high profit margin business
each car they can earn rm10k at least, the least also rm5k per car for those hot models
recon cars even more untung
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quartre88
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Feb 9 2022, 09:40 PM
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gg habislah trade secret kena ajar
now u all know how they make 20k monthly
meanwhile autolaundry used for actual money laundering hopefully in next episode
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(quartre88 @ Feb 9 2022, 09:40 PM) gg habislah trade secret kena ajar now u all know how they make 20k monthly meanwhile autolaundry used for actual money laundering hopefully in next episode Bro, telling people abt revolving credit facility for car dealers is not a huge secret reveal. They won’t lend to any tom dick Gary. This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Feb 9 2022, 09:48 PM
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SUSAligee
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Feb 9 2022, 10:00 PM
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Kongsi merah cuci money!
This post has been edited by Aligee: Feb 9 2022, 10:01 PM
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WaCKy-Angel
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Feb 9 2022, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 9 2022, 09:31 PM) Floor Stocking is a revolving credit facility extended to Panel car dealers for the purpose of financing the purchase of the dealers' motor vehicle stock QUOTE(rooney723 @ Feb 9 2022, 09:32 PM) bank got loan them money for cashflow, thats why they can buy cars in cash, and used car is a high profit margin business each car they can earn rm10k at least, the least also rm5k per car for those hot models recon cars even more untung QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 09:47 PM) Bro, telling people abt revolving credit facility for car dealers is not a huge secret reveal. They won’t lend to any tom dick Gary. Thats why ayam wondering too why would banks simply loan money to any ah kow, ali, or muthu.
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 9 2022, 10:11 PM) Thats why ayam wondering too why would banks simply loan money to any ah kow, ali, or muthu. They will secure the credit facility against something like your house property business etc.
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WaCKy-Angel
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Feb 9 2022, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 10:14 PM) They will secure the credit facility against something like your house property business etc. Means they dont "start small" lahh?
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feekle
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Feb 9 2022, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 9 2022, 10:18 PM) Means they dont "start small" lahh? Rag to richest start small lor..banks wont easily give credit facility and one must have some sort of collateral against it. If you play the game right like NAZA build ties with the right man in powah..become rich in no time.
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fantasy1989
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Feb 9 2022, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 9 2022, 10:18 PM) Means they dont "start small" lahh? start small as dealer employee and build up your reputation find some big boss partnership and open your own used car shop lor just like you open company also need capital/start-up fund right?
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:20 PM
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Yeah it a business where the dealer will front all the risk first and banks facilitate.
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:20 PM
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It's not as easy as it sounds.
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 9 2022, 10:18 PM) Means they dont "start small" lahh? Yeah some literally do One wira bekam 2 3 4 4 4 5 5 6 7 8 Grind your way up...
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:22 PM
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You can try yourself with cash to buy off people and flip highly sought after cars like vios civic... Myvi corolla etc
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:23 PM
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Or highly sought after enthusiast cars.
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Feb 9 2022, 11:20 PM) It's not as easy as it sounds. Those that say high profit margin, risk is also high and some of those margins need to pay for security and insurance of all those cars from damage fire stolen etc while in their care and still unsold. This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Feb 9 2022, 11:24 PM
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 11:23 PM) Those that say high profit margin, risk is also high and some of those margins need to pay for security and insurance of all those cars while in their care and still unsold. Yes and also buying a car of someone who still under lon. You gotta settle the full amount with the bank even before it can be transferred to your company/name... These are risks.
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Feb 9 2022, 11:22 PM) You can try yourself with cash to buy off people and flip highly sought after cars like vios civic... Myvi corolla etc I imagine a mechanic who really knows abt the car can start like this. Get a car that seemingly has expensive problem that owner wants to get rid of cheaply, fix the part cheaply n sell for high profit, like flipping a foreclosure.
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Icehart
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Feb 9 2022, 11:30 PM
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now not easy with carsome and mytukar coming in
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novblaze
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Feb 9 2022, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 09:07 PM) Each car they pay tens of thousands in cash straight. Millions in Cashflow. I know most going to say kongsi gelap cuci money but I wonder if got real investors pool their money to start a business in this. Anyone from this industry know? Might as well ask where kedai jam tangan get their money
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 11:27 PM) I imagine a mechanic who really knows abt the car can start like this. Get a car that seemingly has expensive problem that owner wants to get rid of cheaply, fix the part cheaply n sell for high profit, like flipping a foreclosure. Mechanic has less risk and less working cap to entry... You will eventually hire your own handy man to fix these cars to last for few months... Kek
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Feb 9 2022, 11:31 PM) Might as well ask where kedai jam tangan get their money Now this I wanna know... Esp those watch dealers... Millions in stock... In a small shop. This post has been edited by Fenix98: Feb 9 2022, 11:36 PM
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frequency
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Feb 9 2022, 11:42 PM
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taikor cash from daddy banks nowadays also got p2p like capbay, funding society
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SUSBug Juice
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Feb 9 2022, 11:51 PM
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One of my friend used to do this a bit, he sell aofatts and vellfires with a partner, one pc at a time and one sale can untung like 40k. It was long time ago and not doing it anymore
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 9 2022, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Feb 9 2022, 11:31 PM) Might as well ask where kedai jam tangan get their money thank you but no tq for this low value input, got others chimed in with better info before d.
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lordgamer3
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Feb 9 2022, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 09:07 PM) Each car they pay tens of thousands in cash straight. Millions in Cashflow. I know most going to say kongsi gelap cuci money but I wonder if got real investors pool their money to start a business in this. Anyone from this industry know? Take money n put in washing machine.
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whyamiblack
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Feb 9 2022, 11:54 PM
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Start from small and never cash out profit. Flow back inside business. Try it, you'll be surprised how fast your shit grows.
This post has been edited by whyamiblack: Feb 9 2022, 11:54 PM
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0168257061
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Feb 9 2022, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Feb 9 2022, 11:31 PM) Might as well ask where kedai jam tangan get their money Throw them even a few PP I am sure they really have that much of cash to give you.
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 9 2022, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(Bug Juice @ Feb 9 2022, 11:51 PM) One of my friend used to do this a bit, he sell aofatts and vellfires with a partner, one pc at a time and one sale can untung like 40k. It was long time ago and not doing it anymore Kena AP scammed then shy? Heard about these when these dealers chat There will always be these few conman pentipu scammers... Hefty losses... This post has been edited by Fenix98: Feb 10 2022, 12:01 AM
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 10 2022, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Feb 9 2022, 11:56 PM) Kena AP scammed then shy? used car why still need to deal in AP? or you mean grey importer? saw some shoplots, whole row is white black alphard/vellfire.
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SUSFenix98
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Feb 10 2022, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 10 2022, 12:00 AM) used car why still need to deal in AP? or you mean grey importer? saw some shoplots, whole row is white black alphard/vellfire. Eventually some grow to take on the grey imports.. Thats a diprent ball game... The buyer pays for the import taxes duty etc once the car is sold..... This area they left it grey... Must be trade secrets.
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rooney723
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Feb 10 2022, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(Bug Juice @ Feb 9 2022, 11:51 PM) One of my friend used to do this a bit, he sell aofatts and vellfires with a partner, one pc at a time and one sale can untung like 40k. It was long time ago and not doing it anymore now cannot do because too many competitors, u see how many recon dealers selling aofatts n vellfires now, but yeah recon cars especially those MPVs are the real big money maker
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Eskape
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Feb 10 2022, 12:16 AM
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Kind of in the business.
Those used car dealers you see pop out of nowhere with many nice cars available for sale? Those are money laundering business. Many of them are run by former underworld bosses. They wash their hands and start "clean" business as a used car dealership. Bulk of their profits are actually from the shop loans they give out to buyers. The interest on those loans are close to exorbitant.
The bootstrap companies normally start very small. They purchase really bad cars then fix them up to a saleable state and sell them for a profit. Example, 8k for a run down myvi. Put in a few thousand to repair and touch up. Then sell it for a few grand profit. Normally myvi, wira, saga are the most popular ones. As you make money, you get better vehicles to sell like pick up trucks and C segment cars.
There are used car dealers that get bank loans as well. They operate just like regular car dealers.
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Feb 10 2022, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(Eskape @ Feb 10 2022, 12:16 AM) Kind of in the business. Those used car dealers you see pop out of nowhere with many nice cars available for sale? Those are money laundering business. Many of them are run by former underworld bosses. They wash their hands and start "clean" business as a used car dealership. Bulk of their profits are actually from the shop loans they give out to buyers. The interest on those loans are close to exorbitant. The bootstrap companies normally start very small. They purchase really bad cars then fix them up to a saleable state and sell them for a profit. Example, 8k for a run down myvi. Put in a few thousand to repair and touch up. Then sell it for a few grand profit. Normally myvi, wira, saga are the most popular ones. As you make money, you get better vehicles to sell like pick up trucks and C segment cars.
There are used car dealers that get bank loans as well. They operate just like regular car dealers. As a DIY enthusiast, these are the ones I really respect. They have the most value add among all the different types.
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ekoh
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Feb 10 2022, 12:40 AM
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some cars are owner's own, sell on their behalf
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9m2w
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Feb 10 2022, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Feb 9 2022, 09:29 PM) You mean he started his operation from two three cars to those shoplot with 50 cars? That’sa few million in inventory. Banks willing to lend capital? Dunno how small he started but he used to either open a hardware shop or was a supplier of building materials. So not sure if capital purely organic or from bank. Don't know if his lot has 50 plus cars but he did tell me some in his lot aren't his inventory. He turns around fast, that's his secret sauce I guess. Pickups to plantation folks, Protons for contractors and cars with bootspace like exoras to SMEs that need to make deliveries. That and the contacts he made from his supply business.
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