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post Feb 4 2022, 02:39 PM, updated 4y ago

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I have been posting here about getting a new car and I am settled on getting a persona. It seems to fit my requirement of a wanting good boot space with good handling as well.

But now the question is which variant is value for money?

I have got advice that the premium is not worth as you only get the hi proton additionally, while some have told me that the standard is better value than executive as the additions are minimal?

Personally was thinking about the executive because the brown seats and black top looks odd to me, plus the hi proton seems like a gimmick.

Also, is the touch panel really much better than the biasa one? I have just propped my phone on a holder all this while.

What do you think? Your feedback is much appreciated, especially from current persona owners (mc2).

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post Feb 4 2022, 05:32 PM

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post Feb 4 2022, 05:34 PM

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unless u drive alone. safety no different liao
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post Feb 4 2022, 05:35 PM

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Go full spec, not regret..

If you arr on loan, i dont think it will be too much

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post Feb 4 2022, 05:37 PM

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price between 45k to 54k rite?
masuk installment tak beza much.
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if u pick low-mid spec, money can spend on modify, maintenance, yearly insur, invest.
depend what plan u got
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post Feb 4 2022, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(hakimnen @ Feb 4 2022, 05:35 PM)
Go full spec, not regret..

If you arr on loan, i dont think it will be too much
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between 600-700 i simply check on 7yr. yea local car suppose to be affordable
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post Feb 4 2022, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(allomicro @ Feb 4 2022, 02:39 PM)
I have been posting here about getting a new car and I am settled on getting a persona. It seems to fit my requirement of a wanting good boot space with good handling as well.

But now the question is which variant is value for money?

I have got advice that the premium is not worth as you only get the hi proton additionally, while some have told me that the standard is better value than executive as the additions are minimal?

Personally was thinking about the executive because the brown seats and black top looks odd to me, plus the hi proton seems like a gimmick.

Also, is the touch panel really much better than the biasa one? I have just propped my phone on a holder all this while.

What do you think? Your feedback is much appreciated,  especially from current persona owners (mc2).
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Difference is more or less extra add-ons/accesories/Hi Proton. Mechanically wise there is not much different from Executive. If I were you i take the mid range and keep the money for something else thumbup.gif cos I dont fancy those extra in premium

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post Feb 4 2022, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(allomicro @ Feb 4 2022, 02:39 PM)
I have been posting here about getting a new car and I am settled on getting a persona. It seems to fit my requirement of a wanting good boot space with good handling as well.

But now the question is which variant is value for money?

I have got advice that the premium is not worth as you only get the hi proton additionally, while some have told me that the standard is better value than executive as the additions are minimal?

Personally was thinking about the executive because the brown seats and black top looks odd to me, plus the hi proton seems like a gimmick.

Also, is the touch panel really much better than the biasa one? I have just propped my phone on a holder all this while.

What do you think? Your feedback is much appreciated,  especially from current persona owners (mc2).
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If you're family man & it is a family car, get the Premium. It has 6 airbags & leatherette seats. The seats are easy to clean any spills.

If you're a lone driver most of the time, get the executive. Although it has fabric seats & 4 airbags, it has reverse camera & also front parking sensors. Convenient features to have.
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Feb 4 2022, 06:56 PM)
If you're family man & it is a family car, get the Premium. It has 6 airbags & leatherette seats.
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Airbags will not guarantee 100% your safety.
I know most of them ask for 1000 airbags or else will not buy one.
But even a Vellfire gets crushed in an accident

Mother and 3 children killed in crash on way to wedding
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post Feb 4 2022, 09:29 PM

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Proton should've offered 6 airbags across the who Persona range.

With taller SUVs flooding the roads these days, a side impact from these vehicles is aimed straight at your upper torso and head if you're in a sedan/hatchback car. A curtain airbag could be the difference between life and death.

I would choose the top spec for the sole reason of 6 airbags.
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post Feb 4 2022, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Feb 4 2022, 09:25 PM)
Airbags will not guarantee 100% your safety.
I know most of them ask for 1000 airbags or else will not buy one.
But even a Vellfire gets crushed in an accident

Mother and 3 children killed in crash on way to wedding
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Not this sh*t again.
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post Feb 4 2022, 09:42 PM

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Cant comment on this newest features on the car. But based on current using of Iriz 1.6 CVT, these are my things that i dislike. FC kinda not that great maybe due to old campro engine, daily drive kl work give around 11-12km/l per full tank. Cvt supposed to give low rpm at highway cruising, but not on this punch cvt, 120kmh rpm kinda high. The main is jerkiness at start stop due to clutch based mechanism.
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post Feb 5 2022, 10:50 AM

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to TS: get whichever specs you can afford.
ideally the premium cuz of additional safety, and that's how China Geely marketing works that all the good parts are there while the lower trim caters to affordability and budget.

QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 4 2022, 09:42 PM)
FC kinda not that great maybe due to old campro engine, daily drive kl work give around 11-12km/l per full tank. Cvt supposed to give low rpm at highway cruising, but not on this punch cvt, 120kmh rpm kinda high. The main is jerkiness at start stop due to clutch based mechanism.
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post geely i have experienced zero jerkiness from the transmission or any stop go situation.
i do know how to drive a manual dry clutch based car so maybe that helps smile.gif

FC can easily hit well over 16 if i desire so on highways, on city can easily go between 10-13 while still enjoying a good full throttle spirited drive.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 5 2022, 10:50 AM)
to TS: get whichever specs you can afford.
ideally the premium cuz of additional safety, and that's how China Geely marketing works that all the good parts are there while the lower trim caters to affordability and budget.
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post geely i have experienced zero jerkiness from the transmission or any stop go situation.
i do know how to drive a manual dry clutch based car so maybe that helps smile.gif

FC can easily hit well over 16 if i desire so on highways, on city can easily go between 10-13 while still enjoying a good full throttle spirited drive.
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Other than good parts/features/extra safety does the build quality differ between variants? eg the lowest spec and high spec car are build properly? brows.gif

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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 5 2022, 10:07 PM)
Other than good parts/features/extra safety does the build quality differ between variants? eg the lowest spec and high spec car are build properly? brows.gif
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I believe they are the same build quality

I've not come across any information that says otherwise and it isn't in Geely Proton best interest to shun away lower spec buyers (or even cheaper Proton Saga, which is still their best seller)
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post Feb 6 2022, 12:51 AM

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Good to hear about tat. it would be suicidal if geely proton dictate their build quality based on the car trim level shocking.gif

Just felt sometime they spec certain thing only to top end when it should be available too all variant (eg led light which they did for x50)
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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 6 2022, 12:51 AM)
Good to hear about tat. it would be suicidal if geely proton dictate their build quality based on the car trim level shocking.gif

Just felt sometime they spec certain thing only to top end when it should be available too all variant (eg led light which they did for x50)
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now that you mentioned difference in equipment, such as Halogen or LED headlamps, tires are also an important difference in quality that will vary on different trims.
for example, Proton lower spec Persona will have Silverstone tires, while the premium top trim will have Good year Assurance TripleMax / TripleMax 2 (i am not sure what the new 16" tires wear) that is for sure quality is better than Silverstone.

now, overall build quality definitely shouldn't be compromised, just that the tires being supplied by different manufacturers definitely will have different quality as they have different price and costing.
Proton definitely isn't the only one to do it as Honda Civic top trims get the awesome Michelin Pilot Sport 4 while the lower trims get less than stellar Continental Max Contact.
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post Feb 6 2022, 12:30 PM

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If buying Executive variant can we change to LED headlamps similar to the Premium version?
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post Feb 6 2022, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 6 2022, 01:02 AM)
now that you mentioned difference in equipment, such as Halogen or LED headlamps, tires are also an important difference in quality that will vary on different trims.
for example, Proton lower spec Persona will have Silverstone tires, while the premium top trim will have Good year Assurance TripleMax / TripleMax 2 (i am not sure what the new 16" tires wear) that is for sure quality is better than Silverstone.

now, overall build quality definitely shouldn't be compromised, just that the tires being supplied by different manufacturers definitely will have different quality as they have different price and costing.
Proton definitely isn't the only one to do it as Honda Civic top trims get the awesome Michelin Pilot Sport 4 while the lower trims get less than stellar Continental Max Contact.
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For lower grade variants, they are now fitted with Atlas AS380 tyres instead of Silverstone Kruizers. Not sure if these are better or not.

The premium spec is fitted with Goodyear Assurance Triplemax 2.
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post Feb 7 2022, 01:57 AM

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Tyres are not a problem as can trade-in for better ones immediately after taking the car.
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post Feb 7 2022, 11:00 AM

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definitely just get the Premium, u get 6 airbags which is important in case of side impacts

you also get LED headlights which are miles better than halogen
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post Feb 7 2022, 12:03 PM

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i think it boils down to
1. do you really want leather seats?
2. do you really want LED headlights?
3. do you really believe in extra airbags?

#3 is the one impossible to retrofit.
#1&#2 depends on your willpower. if willpower not strong, then usually won't retrofit d.

like i really wanted leather seats (but MT only for standard variant), hence i only had fabric. i've driven the car for 4 years, still stuck as fabric seat. no budget, no time, no will power to do the retrofitting. lol..
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QUOTE(tctham @ Feb 7 2022, 12:03 PM)
i think it boils down to
1. do you really want leather seats?
2. do you really want LED headlights?
3. do you really believe in extra airbags?

#3 is the one impossible to retrofit.
#1&#2 depends on your willpower. if willpower not strong, then usually won't retrofit d.

like i really wanted leather seats (but MT only for standard variant), hence i only had fabric. i've driven the car for 4 years, still stuck as fabric seat. no budget, no time, no will power to do the retrofitting. lol..
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spot on lol
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post Feb 7 2022, 01:17 PM

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2019 Persona premium owner here. Since nobody talked about hi proton, allow me laugh.gif

I'd say it's "okay", it has helped me in some situations especially in my solo driving times where I cannot tap my phone or tap the touchscreen. Yes, the touchscreen can be more difficult to navigate around compared to physical, solid buttons, especially when you need to keep your eyes on the road.

Problems:
- she randomly catches some keywords (I don't know what yet) and interrupts my song and the conversation in my car, to explain what's the song name and artist, this happens sometimes when people are conversing in the car. sweat.gif
- she doesn't recognise owner's voice -- it's really not that fancy -- so if you have kids, it's probably gonna be a fun toy they will mess with. Nothing serious, unless you use their Baidu navigation, then wrong commands can potentially exit your navigation.

Speaking of online navigation, I think it's good enough for main city roads, but I wouldn't trust Baidu most of the time, after one experience of it bringing me into kampung road.

Will I still get premium? Yes, because I chose the 6 airbags. Hi Proton is a minor nice-to-have but I wouldn't pay thousands for it.
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post Feb 7 2022, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Feb 7 2022, 01:17 PM)
2019 Persona premium owner here. Since nobody talked about hi proton, allow me laugh.gif

I'd say it's "okay", it has helped me in some situations especially in my solo driving times where I cannot tap my phone or tap the touchscreen. Yes, the touchscreen can be more difficult to navigate around compared to physical, solid buttons, especially when you need to keep your eyes on the road.

Problems:
- she randomly catches some keywords (I don't know what yet) and interrupts my song and the conversation in my car, to explain what's the song name and artist, this happens sometimes when people are conversing in the car. sweat.gif
- she doesn't recognise owner's voice -- it's really not that fancy -- so if you have kids, it's probably gonna be a fun toy they will mess with. Nothing serious, unless you use their Baidu navigation, then wrong commands can potentially exit your navigation.

Speaking of online navigation, I think it's good enough for main city roads, but I wouldn't trust Baidu most of the time, after one experience of it bringing me into kampung road.

Will I still get premium? Yes, because I chose the 6 airbags. Hi Proton is a minor nice-to-have but I wouldn't pay thousands for it.
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I've switched-off the "Hi Proton" trigger word function and use the voice control button on the steering to activate it instead, precisely because my kid likes to summon it for no reason.

Baidu maps is.....for lack of a better word....crap laugh.gif

The 2022 Persona will have the new Atlas UI instead of GKUI, haven't tried it before so no comment on that.
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just get the premium
LED light are so so so so so so so much better at flooding with road with light
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post Feb 7 2022, 04:19 PM

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add on, if you can afford the executive, don't consider the standard. I don't hate the standard, but the 60:40 folding feature is not something you always use, but you will wish yourself having it when the situation arises. there are 2-3 occasions where i had to borrow my mom's jazz to carry certain things just because I cannot fold the seats down.

reverse camera is good too, as my batch's parking sensor is delayed. quite hard to gauge distance with the parking sensor. and reverse camera always useful in case of small critters (cats/dogs) or babies/kids running behind your car while you reverse. another feature you wun think you need, until you need it and you don't have it.

i wish i have 4 speakers too. though that can be easily retrofitted (yet i have not done so)
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go for 6 air bags, u can't add that later on, imagine like 5 years later u still have car with 6 airbags.

Hi-proton is hit and miss, but once you're used to it, it gave u convenience at certain success rate, when you adapted to it, the success rate will increase hence being more helpful to you.

FC wise ok la, not gonna make u an instant poorfag, just u can't be proud if compared with Perodua, still miles better than those Turbo in Geely trust me.
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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 7 2022, 01:35 PM)
I've switched-off the "Hi Proton" trigger word function and use the voice control button on the steering to activate it instead, precisely because my kid likes to summon it for no reason.

Baidu maps is.....for lack of a better word....crap  laugh.gif

The 2022 Persona will have the new Atlas UI instead of GKUI, haven't tried it before so no comment on that.
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OH I didn't know that was the function of that button, lol thanks for the tips!

I actually had friends my age (im in 30s mind you) summoned her for fun... cuz yeah, you really don't get this feature in most car under 100k. So don't blame your kids laugh.gif
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post Feb 8 2022, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Feb 7 2022, 11:23 PM)
OH I didn't know that was the function of that button, lol thanks for the tips!

I actually had friends my age (im in 30s mind you) summoned her for fun... cuz yeah, you really don't get this feature in most car under 100k. So don't blame your kids laugh.gif
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Yep long press the button to summon it.

To switch off the Hi Proton trigger you need to do it on the HU itself though.

Some voice feature don't even have to use the Hi Proton trigger word. One time I was playing music from USB, when my friend ask me what song was that, before I could answer, the HU answered for me (It reads out loud the name of the MP3 file) huh.gif Nobody said Hi Proton before that, just asked "What song is this?"

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