Anyone here has any opinion about this CFG? to me its a ponzi or pyramid scheme. Lots of people has been talking about this lately.

i been experimenting with it

operation is like money game, the difference is the money dont really come from recruiting but betting.

Park. My colleague trying to get me into it. He said deposit 1K in 6 months oledi become 64K. Find it hard to believe

not based on my calculation, not that much.

the money you put in will double in average 40 days plus minus

so 6 months get you around 29k return only

yes, it is too good to be true, i categorize this under money game, join at your own risk, and only put in disposable money into it.

invested 500 and within 3 months earn 3.2K

i agree with the too good to be true part

its got this daily compounding interest which is...well imagine putting 3k and let it sit for 1 year and boom you can semi retire already
so far so good lah for my first month


lately many so called groups appeared that says you can join the group with just x amount of deposits, then you'll be guaranteed with min 1~2+% daily compounding interest which is....um

its a "betting against" system where you win as long the match result isnt the same as the one you betted on
i can only say join at your own risk loh

iirc i saw somewhere else someone said cfg has been established for 2 years

Edit: other than the last sentence^ the rest is when you joined a so called vip group, they give you daily predictions and you just do all in bets based on the given prediction

Another Edit: Anyone interest joining plz come use my referral code so i can earn some kolo mee money

This post has been edited by Achilles Yong: Jan 3 2022, 07:00 PM

why invite u, when his 64k become 4,096,000m in another six month.

How about those non capital guaranteed bets, if you lose, will you lose the whole amount of bet, or the percentage shown?

This post has been edited by tampinmy: Jan 3 2022, 09:06 PM

For the group i join there is this affiliate program where you get 8% of the amount your direct downline withdraws. The 8% is given by cfg, meaning the deduction wont occur on the withdrawn amount....so if say you as my downline you have withdrawn 4m i'll get 4,000,000*0.08 = 320k

For the group i have joined as long you do your bets in accordance to the predictions given, your capital is safe. So far there were two cases where the prediction went wrong and everyone have lost all their capital (all in bets). All the lost capitals were compensated within an hour or two. And yes, since its an all in bet, you lost all if you lose the bet. You will not be entitled for compensation should you not follow the predictions given, and all the betting records are there so you cant even attempt to lie and get away with it

This post has been edited by Achilles Yong: Jan 3 2022, 09:31 PM

hahahhaha
u know what is gambling ? consistent winning or losing.
u know what is scamming ? consistent winning.

well of course its gambling, CFG is football betting, you see

As for the consistent winning, i didnt say anything that the group i have joined gives 100% accurate predictions though
https://www.reddit.com/r/SoccerBetting/comm...ng_statistical/ you might be interested to read about this
to me its more like the odds/probability stuff, since you have 50/50 chance of getting it right/wrong its not impossible for one to have scored 9/10 of the bets made, and there are such cases if you try look'em up

scammer or not i dont know, thats why i said join on your own risk should you wish to

and cfg is about inverse football betting which gives you even more of a chance to score your bets.....imo

This post has been edited by Achilles Yong: Jan 3 2022, 10:22 PM

Thank you all for your opinion. I however find this a bit fishy. That much compounding intrest makes sense. But to me, its more to a ponzi scheme. If bank negara gets wind on this, im sure they will shut this down.

hahhahahaha ... 50/50%
that is first time i heard on betting or casino.

yup its betting, and the group claim if follow their instruction and lose the bet they will refund. Well as any money game promise, take it with a bunch of salt, play at your own risk, and only play with disposable money

they give u instruction to bet, if lose they refund capital? then whats the catch lol

yup the whole operation is kinda dodgy too, i ask my aunt that introduce me this about how to declare the income, she say no where to declare so the money make here cannot be used for proof of income, no way to be legit.

and she say the company registered in UK, but only operating in MY and can only direct transact with selected MY banks and USDT, to play has to have MY bank account, or foreigner must use USDT, including UK people where the company is registered

the catch is, you can only bet once a day, with only average 1.8% return per day.

they want your initial deposit for money laundering kot, i dont know.

oh like that. then its the usual pump and dump la. few months later go bust

money game is money game.

make some money, take back principal money and let it roll, any extra are bonus.

Malaysians and money game.. never berpisah

this
i think she was referring to the actual CFG, not this football betting thing. The Actual CFG has its own wiki: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Football_Group>
While this betting thing is called CFG investment Malaysia, if memory serves me correctly. Truth be told till now i still cant seem to find the company registration number and stuff, not mentioning any credible stuff to prove that the investment company is legit

so its like walking on a thin line hoping it wont snap anytime soon zzzz

hmmm i guess you are right, i am not a football fan dont know anything about football. so, join at your own risk, and only play with disposable money.

normally money game how long can it last?

It's legit and its hybrid of money game and money laundering that's why need transactions n user bank account. Once they hit their cuci duit target, will close down. Only the top boss will know when

join fast to earn money,don't b the last one.....DON'T install app from play store is fake/scam..PM for join.



This post has been edited by joey: Jan 5 2022, 05:11 AM

haha its legit until it close shop without notice.

that is money game, reminder again, only put disposable money in to play.

based on my projection i have to roll my credits till may 2022 to get to 37k

have fun guys

hope they bye bye after 2023 or keep continue forever then we will b millionaire...anywhere I already take back my capital...consider no lose stil earn jus keep let it roll...earn and earn

good for you

They call it investment in football

we call it gambling?

How long have you been playing?

Oldest account I heard of is June last year. The rest is all hear say.

June 2021

6 months is 35X your investment.

So you started with rm1k?

This post has been edited by Bishop: Jan 5 2022, 05:04 PM

2k

wah so early
me start late december 2020 smh

This 37k can withdraw 100% ma?

The nett returns from the betting is only around 60+%

So it is sustainable in the sense if the whole scheme is an online betting game. Unker friend also into, tapi unker letak rm100 jer gatal nak tengok apa die buat.

Note that by just pure random chance, your odds of losing is 1/18 if not wrong. So by far, most casinos return around 90% of your bets each time its more of a betting scheme with comissions since the nett return from each match is only around 60%.

The money game might come from the gimmick of "tips" "insurance" if the bet fails or something. But the events are real, and you are betting against actual match scores/outcomes like any betting platform.

can but not 1 shot 37k & got 5% withdrawal fee.

This post has been edited by joey: Jan 5 2022, 09:12 PM

Still gooddd

December 2020? More than a year? That is more than 1000x returns.

But their payout including all the commissions is less than 3% of the investment. So if the nett returns is more than 60% then it is very sustainable.
They also take a “service charge” of 5% of your profits and another 5% of your withdrawal.

I was like u too... Sceptical at first but i successfully took out my capital 4 days ago. People be saying its haram but its up to you really.

I'm quite sure the ponzi lies in the "tips" and "insurance" mechanism if a bet fails, thus losing you all your money. So for any small amount this is very easily sustained, but as numebrs grow, someone needs to pay the bills/profit from the "capital guaranteed" bums who just tag along follow tips and profit at 2% based on the internal "guides".

My friend said it mostly comes from those who bet without tips, or are greedy and take on multiple bets, but since the nett returned funds are so low at 60% per match, you are essentially wasting your time betting here since 30%++ is lost/burned into the company by default. But if every single guy is a "tip feeder" then who is going to keep paying the wins? So some one must eventually lose hence the insurance or "refund" part of the scheme in case an outcome is against the tip.

WAIT NONONO
Its late december 2021 lmao
Lmaoo i wish i joined that early
financial freedom le

How long did you leave your capital in?

This post has been edited by Achilles Yong: Jan 6 2022, 09:48 PM

Haha no need to analyse money game, the idea of this is to ride on the greedy, give them hope so they intro more people in while they generate paper gain for them "logically", and when they sense that the top-up is going downtrend and withdrawal is going uptrend it will be game over.

when will the top-up downtrend and withdrawal uptrend happen? Only the top few will know.

u can see some one just create new account to response here.
typical

hahaha some people is very afraid of getting associated with dodgy businesses.

to the elusive dupes or those too afraid of kena kecam, keep open mind and judge everything with your intelligence, its all up to you, dont be too obsessed with what others will say about you, cos you are living your life for yourself.

heard of the 2 old folks and a donkey story? no one can satisfy everyone, so be yourself.

and reminder again, i categorise this CFG as money game, only play with disposable money.

I trust bank judgment than my personal

Cfg seems to be fake when I'm try to use online bank to deposit money its not showing actual online bankin site it capturing username and password and 3rd party using this information and accessing our bank and can view our back. Then I received transaction to transfer amount to another party that I did not request. You guys need to be careful there is no any actual company here. I believe they are accessing people bank account and target people with high money to scam them. Beware!

use "internet banking" and pick the paylah88 and the bank you have money with.

dont use your account with all your money but an account that has only the money you want to dump in.

the receiver account changes over time, dodgy as mentioned before, so only play with the money you willing to lose.

Yeah, I know about this my friend recommended me and he say he invested and he already got his money back. But again they are trying to get as much of people to dump in money in this scam and will pull the plug once they have all they money and start back their scam with another new site. I'm reminding everyone not to be greedy to pull all your money in here.

It's the same thing for the major forex platforms out there like Octafx, their receive from and sent to accounts changes almost everytime.
Maybe that's what they do to avoid kena pursue by lhdn 🤣

probably

and bank negara

They are all proxy accounts both The deposit and the withdrawal(payment) accounts. Same as many other “investment” plans, ie Trump fx
Most important is you can withdraw your “winnings”. As long as they pay you then it is fine to “invest”.
If you think about it everything is a money game. Bonds, share market, forex, etc.
Question you want to ask is “how do I profit from it?”

11 Jan had an incident where the provided bet lost, i lost all my 4k credits in there include my capital

As the plan promised "Zero-Risk Capital Preservation Plan" the 4k credit i lost by following their bet instructions has been reinstated about 2-3 hours later full bet amount

due to the lost bet, there are no gains on 11 Jan, so they promised double gain on 12 Jan

fine until they run away with your money.

money game they will runaway definitely, just we dont know when.

They refunded your money as promised. At least they fulfilled their part. They will run away. Just a matter of when. So next question is how much is enough for you? 😅

refund money or credit ?

Hehehehe

I'm in this as well. It is a ponzi/money game/scam but doesn't mean we can't make money out of it.

Essentially it is a gamble. Whether we get our ROI before it go bust or it go bust before we can withdraw. Once you withdraw your Initial investment you are even. Any amount you withdraw after that is a bonus.

Don't get greedy and keep the money rolling inside. Have a system to periodically withdraw without jeopardizing the compounding interest.

Conclusion, it is a gamble so only play with the money you willing to lose

This post has been edited by epsilon_chinwk86: Jan 12 2022, 03:51 PM

the thing is, their predictions daily are always accurate. they promoted it as Match fixing as well. its always those unknown teams in india, turkey etc which i agree its easy to bribe them and match fix the game. i think they also use the money to legally bet for these teams and earn from there that's where our money comes in.

True. It's always those 0-3 or 3-0 for teams at ulu ulu places. Once I got the bet for Asia Cup

My theory is they're using the our money as collateral in actual football betting. Would like to know their actual money making mechanism if it's not typical money game.

As I know it's been on going for few years already.

If they are using our money as collateral then that is a good thing, as I know they make 8-10% from bookie'ing. Then for them to "share" a profit of 2-3% to the "investors" is a good deal. It also means that they are sustainable.

But there seem to be a lot of copycat sites popping up in the recent weeks with super high profit - 4-8% per day. Some even have 3 games a day.
Those don't seem sustainable.

How much is enough? That is what money game is about, if greedy sure kena burn.

Refund credit back to account

knowing its money game and risky, and read bro, only play with disposable money, but that dosent mean touch mean die, its a kind of gamble.

those go genting all in lagi shocking kan? but that dosent mean go in genting means die kan?

ugh no
last night's prediction went wrong, everyone and me included has lose all their money (all in bet)
but the next day (today) my lost money got refunded
this is their third time so far iirc

This post has been edited by Achilles Yong: Jan 12 2022, 09:31 PM

1st time for me, 3rd time for my aunt.

a bit of drilling and she told me she started with 3k and now 40k++ already, had her 3k capital plus another 18k withdrawn previously

i didnt all in ah, just the money that i wiling to lose, if use your metaphor, i didnt run across blindfolded, that is equivalent to all in.

what i do is buy an rc car that i can afford to lose, and run it across a road blindfolded while taking cue from someone that say he is controlling the traffic, and that someone else will give me money on IOU note if i didnt crash, and that someone will give me back a new rc car if it crash, but i dont know when will that someone simply runaway without informing me.

haha thats pretty twisted

She must have entered really early, like June last year when these vip stuff first appear?
Huat liao her

This post has been edited by Achilles Yong: Jan 12 2022, 10:23 PM

more or less i guess, keep asking me to recruit more friends, but i refused

i am not going to pull my friend in knowing this is money game, unless they ask me about it.

If your aunt did not deposit anymore money in after capital withdrawal then all the profit that she withdraw currently is bonus already.

Most probably not only from the betting. Its also from lots of downline and recruiting others. I dont dare do this since its money game.

I just see this as gambling. People also spend a few hundred every month to buy 4D toto in hopes to win. To me this is the same. Just dont put all your savings in just play for fun.

yes, its all bonus for her now

oh you are right, she does recruitment as well

i dont do recruit cos i dont want to be responsible if my friend lose money, and i dont need to recruit to generate money.

yup i dont wanna feel guilty later or lose friends cause of it. but those who recruit like her definitely make lotss more.

from what my aunt explained, income from recruitment is not too much, get some cut like 10% or so when someone topup, and a small percentage of their daily gain, not much, but of course a lot of small numbers will add-up to a big number la

There's a fixed amount of $$$ that agents received every month based on numbers of downline they have.

and no I'm not doing any recruiting or promoting.

yeah, they call it 'salary' for meeting recruitment requirements, i think its for those who dont have much capital to begin with, this 'salary' thing will boost their capital

That's one
they also get some% of their downline's total earnings everyday
Few of my group admins get 5k+ every single day man

This post has been edited by Achilles Yong: Jan 13 2022, 10:14 AM

Patutla my upline so adamant / butt tight about me placing bets without missing

One of my friend actually got her upline to place bets for her daily

that i guess is their top most upline lah show you big number to attract people to do it as well, they are not going to show daily earning of measly earning ma


haha thats the condition i give to my aunt in the beginning, she place bet for me for the 1st week, then i started to look at how it works, ignoring bet instructions, made lots of money in a few days time, and lost all the extra earning in a few lose bets, understood how to win and lose, now follow instructions strictly

So full disclosure, when did you guys start, initial capital, current value & total withdrawn?

I'll start. Start in mid Nov 2021 with Rm1250, Current value at Rm2935, gonna do my 1st withdrawal Rm1000 when it reach 3k in few days time

This post has been edited by epsilon_chinwk86: Jan 13 2022, 11:06 AM

Wow that's quick
I started mid dec also but haven't even double my initial amount yet

My bad. Its mid Nov. Got confused with the timing

Someone's got his passive pocket money rolling in every months liao I see

nahhh not really. Withdraw out coz need some cash for CNY. Gonna reload few k into it after company bonus end of this month then let it roll till 10k before start withdrawing weekly.

Well that's the plan anyway. Unless SHTF and the whole scheme go bust

YOLO but bet with money you willing to lose .

Always remind yourself that this is not a sustainable scheme and it will go bust anytime. Then you won't feel so bad when it actually happen or you already have recovery plan.

This post has been edited by epsilon_chinwk86: Jan 13 2022, 04:00 PM

considering cfg has been established since 2 years ago (link: <https://www.scamwatcher.com/scam/view/378773>) and VIP stuff came out June last year
hopefully this will be another smooth year for them

started 02/12 with initial capital of 500, then topup 1000 on 21/12, then topup 1200 on 30/12 then topup 300 again today, total capital now 3k.

current credit at 4575.

plan to start withdraw 1k every day (~6.6k a week after 5% withdrawal charge) when daily gain hits 1k to fulfill /k requirement, projected to be around June 2022.

wah didnt know got such site

That Chong guy keep asking in many sites (inc here) about if it is a scam. If he had put his money in then(around 07/21) he would have made 20-30X his capital by now.

Anyway it does not say that it been around for 2 years. He said he heard it was around for two years. The furthest back I can track is Mid June 2021 My upline's upline (now making rm1K++ perday in rebates)

haha he must be so tempted but scared at the same time

my aunt also started around june 2021

i join jan 8 2022 daam i am late i had deposit RM1K daily earn

i never know how i did join its my friend told me his friend told then he join too he showed me he telling me then i join too he deposit rm1k then i deposit rm1k i follow my friend lol

i got groups daily earn daam i am late

my friend also never know just now found and know jan 8 2022 too late


6month ago she play octafx she pandai i did try demo also hard earn she told me try demo many times i always loss that why i not top up octafx
she earn $50+ per day after few weeks she got $1k mean = RM4k++ crazy lol

cfg is simple very easy bet game

Ah noted, thanks for the corrections
Dem t1 level income right there
Edit: maybe the cfg investment itself has been established for quite some times, before the vip stuff appeared?

This post has been edited by Achilles Yong: Jan 14 2022, 07:49 AM

Actually I noticed it's existence since October I think, but had too much doubts that I only joined mid to late December last year smh

I'm previously very against this kinda scheme/games but somehow when an ex colleague told me about this back in Nov 21, I sign up & deposit Rm200 without much thought and questioning then 2 weeks later made another Rm1k deposit. I know its a scheme/scam but this time just wadeheck, YOLO la.

It's a scam but doesn't mean you can't make money out of it

Seeing more and more people joined this "scam" and think i should share my thought again:
1. i still consider this as money game, only put disposable money in this.
2. no one know when will they take all the money and MIA
3. the operation is dodgy, deposit and withdrawal bank account changes all the time, this is the sign of dodgy business.
4. dont stop progressing on career, this is side income that can go MIA anytime, dont depend on it.
5. there is no way to declare income from this, so pandai2 lah
6. this cannot be legally inherited to next of kin.
7. this dosent contribute to personal growth (actually damaging it)
8. the money look promising, dont get addicted