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Baby1985
post Jan 1 2022, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Dec 30 2021, 07:30 PM)


ustaz ni yang agak wahabi/salafi pun melarang perbuatan mencuci rumah ibadah agama lain.

kalau ulamak pondok melarang, ulamak wahabi pun melarang, aku tak tahu nak kata apa lagi.

dalam hal ni aku lagi suka kalau kita tunggu fatwa mufti. malangnya masih belum ada apa2 statement dari jabatan mufti perlis (walaupun perlis agak wahabi).

pada orang awam macam kita yang masih ragu2, tambahan pula dalam keadaan darurat macam ni, teruskan sajalah. kita tawakal saja kerana autoriti sendiri belum ada guideline yang jelas.
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Dec 30 2021, 08:36 PM)
thats my point. it depends on the context. just because its good does not always mean you have to do it. you have to draw a line.
syirik (idoltary) is the biggest sin. even bigger sin than homosexuality. 80% of the quran warns about syirik.

its understandable if many muslims are sensitive against this issue.
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Membersihkan rumah ibadah agama lain selepas bencana alam dan bersihkan untuk tujuan sembahyang sama ke lain? Bersihkan lepas banjir tu bukan untuk upacara sembahyang pun, syirik juga ke? Dh teruk sesat ni.. tau kenapa agama menjadi senjata yang paling bahaya? Sebab org yg bg msj tu sangat penting, org dulu dulu penggunaan bahasa lain, org sekarang lain, lain org lain maksud mrk akan kuarkan walaupun baca ayat yang sama. So yang hadam tu kena la pandai pandai juga ikut keadaan, jgn pembaris sangat.

Tak yah la bagi tau agama mana prinsip tak leh tukar ke apa, cuba tgk zaman dulu sampai sekarang, klu tak leh tukar, rasanya banyak benda kena ikut balik cara zaman purba.


Baby1985
post Jan 1 2022, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Jan 1 2022, 12:14 PM)
This is a good approach, if you read the Quran you will find many claims are without evidence or just plain wrong or at best vague. Same with the Bible. But did you question it before you accept? I don't think so.

The point is the source itself  is not about the veracity of it's texts or revelations if you like, it primarily concern is getting you to believe regardless.
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Ya true, Because those days no law, rules and regulations as a guideline for human to follow. So that is the way so that ppl can follow. As ppl those days are barbarians, killing everythg. So religion appear so that ppl stop killing.

Now it is not wrong to have religion, but please be logic, not everything can be said without thinking just to have more followers like this Preacher. What i can see is we seem to going backwards.. 🤦
Baby1985
post Jan 1 2022, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(WindDragon @ Jan 1 2022, 12:59 PM)
This is why context is important.

There is absolutely no reason for Non-Muslims go be triggered or offended.

Niat or intent is important.

It is not permissible for a Muslim to specifically seek out temples or other Non-Muslims places of worship etc, to clean up.

If the intent is to help out during bencana alam and the affected areas include houses or shops or temples etc, belonging to Non-Muslims, it is permissible for us Muslims to help out.
Do not touch anything considered sacred by other religions. It is not permissible for us to touch those things or get involved with those things.
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That is the thing. Difference of cleaning the worship place after bencana alam cannot be the same as cleaning worship place for praying purpose. For praying purpose we understand, but when for bencana alam also say sth like this, then it is not acceptable.

It is 2 different scenarios. Example, when tsunami hits, only temple are the shelter at the moment, can muslim enter or stay outside?

 

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