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Financial Downpayment for subsale
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TSberrycoo~
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Dec 30 2021, 03:17 PM, updated 4y ago
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Hi all, I have never bought any house before so I am not too familiar with how the loans work as compared to new property. But I was wondering normally if we buy subsale house, the maximum loan that we can get is it different if its your first house vs 2nd house onwards? Thanks in advanced.
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ProSambalEater
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Dec 30 2021, 03:23 PM
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1st house and 2nd house u can loan up to 90%.
3rd house onwards loan up to 70%
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TSberrycoo~
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Dec 30 2021, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(ProSambalEater @ Dec 30 2021, 03:23 PM) 1st house and 2nd house u can loan up to 90%. 3rd house onwards loan up to 70% Thanks for the reply! Is this like a standard among all banks or does it still depend on the bank/other factors? Also for joint name loans if one is 1st house and another is 3rd house can they still apply for 90% loan?
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victorian
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Dec 30 2021, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Dec 30 2021, 03:26 PM) Thanks for the reply! Is this like a standard among all banks or does it still depend on the bank/other factors? Also for joint name loans if one is 1st house and another is 3rd house can they still apply for 90% loan? Depends from bank to bank. If joint loan, banks will only provide 70% for your case
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TSberrycoo~
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Dec 30 2021, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 30 2021, 03:28 PM) Depends from bank to bank. If joint loan, banks will only provide 70% for your case I see. Do you know what criteria do they normally see to decide whether to give you 90% loan or not? So for joint loan they will follow the person with highest number of property? So if both loan applicants are also 1st/2nd house buyers then they can get up to 90% loan right?
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BlackPen
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Dec 30 2021, 04:01 PM
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Share some example for you
S&P RM700,000, you're required RM100,000 cash for all the expenses such as downpayment, lawyers fees and etc.
The above cost is not included the renovation cost.
Moreover, the loan amount is about 92% (90% plus insurance MRTA / MRTT depending on banks)
First & second house are able to loan up to 90% and 3rd house exceeding RM600,000 is able to loan up to 90% (from previous budget 2020 not sure still valid) else will be up to 70%
This post has been edited by BlackPen: Dec 30 2021, 04:08 PM
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tpleong
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Dec 30 2021, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(ProSambalEater @ Dec 30 2021, 03:23 PM) 1st house and 2nd house u can loan up to 90%. 3rd house onwards loan up to 70% 70%/90% based on S&P and Bank valuation, whichever lower.
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TSberrycoo~
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Dec 30 2021, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(tpleong @ Dec 30 2021, 04:08 PM) 70%/90% based on S&P and Bank valuation, whichever lower. When you say 70/90% are you referring to 3rd house onwards?
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vinceleo
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Dec 30 2021, 05:31 PM
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The criteria based on existing mortgage under one name, so long there are 2 existing mortgage under one name then the 3rd one cap at 70% QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Dec 30 2021, 03:26 PM) Thanks for the reply! Is this like a standard among all banks or does it still depend on the bank/other factors? Also for joint name loans if one is 1st house and another is 3rd house can they still apply for 90% loan?
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kidmad
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Dec 30 2021, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Dec 30 2021, 05:31 PM) The criteria based on existing mortgage under one name, so long there are 2 existing mortgage under one name then the 3rd one cap at 70% unless the property is above 600k. at least for now. https://www.imoney.my/articles/buy-or-sell-...rty-in-malaysia
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kidmad
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Dec 30 2021, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Dec 30 2021, 03:17 PM) Hi all, I have never bought any house before so I am not too familiar with how the loans work as compared to new property. But I was wondering normally if we buy subsale house, the maximum loan that we can get is it different if its your first house vs 2nd house onwards? Thanks in advanced. anyway for any house purchase at least for subsale.. prepare 18% of the purchase price. 10% for down payment. 5-6% for snp. bank legal fees another 2-3%. most back allow your to at least finance the bank legal fees though.
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StupidGuyPlayComp
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Dec 30 2021, 05:50 PM
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1st, 2nd House max 90% loan, 3rd house onward max 70% loan..........these term are set by government, un-negotiable
Somebody use "mark up loan" tricky to get higher loan
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ProSambalEater
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Dec 30 2021, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Dec 30 2021, 03:32 PM) I see. Do you know what criteria do they normally see to decide whether to give you 90% loan or not? So for joint loan they will follow the person with highest number of property? So if both loan applicants are also 1st/2nd house buyers then they can get up to 90% loan right? Your income and commitments of course. Read up articles online for more info. i can only spoonfeed u so much Joint loan they look at both applicant info. For example, if Applicant A got 2 house loan already, Applicant B got no house loan, the loan application will still be capped at 70% as Applicant A is applying for third loan now.
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Timmy Tan
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Dec 30 2021, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Dec 30 2021, 03:32 PM) I see. Do you know what criteria do they normally see to decide whether to give you 90% loan or not? So for joint loan they will follow the person with highest number of property? So if both loan applicants are also 1st/2nd house buyers then they can get up to 90% loan right? It is not the number of property, but the number of housing loan that the person has. If this is the 1st/2nd housing loan for both buyers, then can get up to 90%. If valuation of the property is higher than your agreed purchase price and the seller agrees, you can mark up your SPA price to get more loan. But of course, have to pay higher stamp duty also.
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TSberrycoo~
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Dec 30 2021, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Dec 30 2021, 05:31 PM) The criteria based on existing mortgage under one name, so long there are 2 existing mortgage under one name then the 3rd one cap at 70% Ok thanks this clarification makes things clearer. All the while I thought its based on the property you own. So theoretically does this mean if you sell your existing property first to clear off the loan before going for the next one you will be always eligible for 90% loan?
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TSberrycoo~
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Dec 30 2021, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 30 2021, 05:36 PM) anyway for any house purchase at least for subsale.. prepare 18% of the purchase price. 10% for down payment. 5-6% for snp. bank legal fees another 2-3%. most back allow your to at least finance the bank legal fees though. I see. So best case is 15-16% if they allow you to finance the bank legal fees right? Also just curious is there any options available to finance the downpayment and/or snp for short term?
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TSberrycoo~
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Dec 30 2021, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Dec 30 2021, 05:50 PM) 1st, 2nd House max 90% loan, 3rd house onward max 70% loan..........these term are set by government, un-negotiable Somebody use "mark up loan" tricky to get higher loan I have actually heard of this mark up loan but actually how does it work? Since first of all still need to depend on bank's valuation right? Also is there anyone that has done the calculations on how much extra do you pay by doing this since the seller needs to pay higher capital gain tax etc
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kidmad
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Dec 30 2021, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Dec 30 2021, 06:52 PM) I see. So best case is 15-16% if they allow you to finance the bank legal fees right? Also just curious is there any options available to finance the downpayment and/or snp for short term? nop.. if you need to finance it your not ready for it. don't do anything like getting a personal loan for it.
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TSberrycoo~
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Dec 30 2021, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(Timmy Tan @ Dec 30 2021, 06:27 PM) It is not the number of property, but the number of housing loan that the person has. If this is the 1st/2nd housing loan for both buyers, then can get up to 90%. If valuation of the property is higher than your agreed purchase price and the seller agrees, you can mark up your SPA price to get more loan. But of course, have to pay higher stamp duty also. So if the valuation is lower then there is no way to mark up the SPA price right?
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kidmad
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Dec 30 2021, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(berrycoo~ @ Dec 30 2021, 06:49 PM) Ok thanks this clarification makes things clearer. All the while I thought its based on the property you own. So theoretically does this mean if you sell your existing property first to clear off the loan before going for the next one you will be always eligible for 90% loan? yes.. however for now if 3rd property above rm600k you technically could still get 90% if yr credit score is still healthy.
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