The rear looks very Waja-ish.

It does look smaller than the Saga that it's supposed to replace. I hope the interior is improved over the Saga. It actually has potential to be bigger; the Savvy's wheelbase is actually slightly longer than the Saga's.

Someone once told me that the 1.3 Campro engine is too big for the Savvy's bay. I hope that's not true, since the 1.3 Campro is actually quite powerful for its size and would fit a car like this well.

If they somehow managed to mate the AMT Gearbox with the 1.3 Campro, I think this will make a pretty good car. Heck, even with the current Renault 1.2, I believe it can still manage reasonable 0-100 times.

All I hope is for Proton to improve their quality. The Persona is a notable improvement, they should keep it up.


To people who bash Persona and BLM because they are just variants of older models with asses, I'll ask you to look at cars like VW Jetta, BMW 1-series Coupe, Honda City and the Latio Sedan. And like a previously mentioned example, the Renault Clio sedan as well. You think it's cheap to design a car from the ground up?

I'm not a blind Proton fanboy, heck, I used to be a basher. But I realise they are improving now.

Exactly, like I said, many geniuses here think designing a car from scratch is so cheap and easy. Heck, even changing a hatchback into a sedan isn't that straightforward.


They need to take a look at the world and see the reality - manufacturers are running out of ideas so some similarities are inevitable. Although I do wish that they kept the Savvy's front or at least improved it while still retaining a Proton identity. Maybe a Satria Neo kinda front look?

Honda added 2 doors to their Integra DC5 to become the Civic.

Honda added an ass to their Jazz to become the City.

Toyota added an ass to their Yaris (and with less features) to become the Vios.

Nissan added an ass to their Latio Sport to become the Latio sedan.

Chevrolet (Daewoo actually) added an ass to their Aveo to become the Aveo notchback.

Best one of all: Hyundai Sonata. The previous one looked like a Benz's front mated with a Jaguar's rear, while the current one looks so much like the pre-facelift Accord. Looking good at the same time.

Hell, the racer boys' favourite Subaru (I have nothing against Subaru, in fact I love it too)... they now have their own version of the Boon/Passo/Myvi called the Subaru Justy. Copycat right?

But no, they are not copycats. They are not hopeless. Why? Because they are foreign. So the geniuses here seem to think.

This post has been edited by mTk: Sep 22 2007, 01:56 AM

Wow, the revealed model actually looks not bad!

Knowing the typical Proton pricing, the car will probably be cheaper than the Savvy. I do think that they Savvy's price should be reduced slightly somewhat, to have a bigger price gap between the Persona and the Savvy.


If I were to choose a Savvy over the Persona, it would be the following reasons (besides price):

- I don't regularly carry more than 1 or 2 passengers.
- I want a car with low FC.
- I want a more fun-to-drive car than a Persona.
- I want a smaller car than the Persona (maybe because of limited house parking space, inexperienced driver etc.)

Now, Gen2 and Persona is another matter. I see absolutely no reason why I would want a Gen2 over a Persona. Sportiness? Not quite...


I'm not sure if Saga is a good name for it. But it is intended to replace the Saga anyway, so perhaps it might just work. It may very well be the ultimate Viva-killer, provided Proton keeps up the current trend of improving their QC and customer service.

OT: I just thought of something. "Sagaris" sounds way cooler. But TVR (a British sports car maker) already took that one. XD

This post has been edited by mTk: Sep 25 2007, 07:38 AM

I've been waiting for someone qualified like you to answer these people! Salute ya! (Mechanical engineering student here).


Well we have to keep in mind that Proton (and LG) are still in the design stage when it comes to the looks. Most importantly, the car should meet practical requirements like interior space, fuel efficiency, comfort and safety first. Of course, I pray it won't be as ugly as the pre-facelift Savvy, which to me is a really good car inside. Fiat Multipla is another potentially good car with a hideous exterior. (is driving a Fiat himself)