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 Proton SAGA BLM thread - A new SAGA begins, NEW KING ON THE R O A D

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post Sep 19 2007, 12:04 PM

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From the shape of it, it looks better than that Renault. And can notice the Savvy-like cabin structure. Cool.

Price it rm27k like Iswara and kiss good bye to P2.
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post Sep 21 2007, 11:21 AM

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They could just ask Gov help, twist the meaning of excise duty, and give us a rm27k sedan without voilating AFTA.

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post Sep 24 2007, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Sep 24 2007, 05:10 PM)
that would explain why it looks a bit like renault ....
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Not only that, even Gen2 looks like Renault Megane:
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So what's the deal having Renaulty look. tongue.gif As least it is no longer same as the model from 1985.


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post Oct 25 2007, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(shinichi88 @ Oct 25 2007, 04:01 PM)
how come proton got nomore nice design for their car...
the front light , like the gen-2 and persona type...
the back looks ugly...
no aerodynamic look...
they jz simply remake the cover jz the sick for money...
haiz.. doh.gif
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What can you demand more for BLM? It's suppose to be just a simple car with four tires, and at least fuel-injection (Campro 1.3 I hope). And Renault-ish feel.


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post Oct 29 2007, 11:45 AM

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Corolla name also still using after decades, why not Saga?

Unless they still wanna sell the famous Saga for taxis and this BLM is just another new model line. Just like Gen2 and Wira...
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post Nov 21 2007, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Nov 21 2007, 01:23 PM)
Well if it weighs the same as a Vios or City(betwee 950-1000kg), it won't be. The 1.3 is more powerful than the 1.5 in Honda City iDSI.
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What's more important is it torquey and zippy enough to maneuver in city area, or it has to resort to hi rev to attain what iDSI's torque in < 3k rpm.
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post Nov 23 2007, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Sep 18 2007, 11:26 PM)
hail to the new Proton!

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Thanks to the guy who posted at ZTH..

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Walau damn chun. drool.gif Why this one look so much better than Waja? LOL.


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post Nov 23 2007, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 23 2007, 10:44 AM)
lol complain about power steering

then those older cars without power steering, how did they survive back then?
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Really, my KE70 steering is so much lighter than Iswara powered steering. So power steering is not much use for compact sedan anyway. BLM without power steering is acceptable.


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QUOTE(nizam80 @ Nov 27 2007, 12:48 AM)
The real milo tin is that rebadged Daihatsu Sirion/Toyota Passo. whistling.gif ... and also that RM44K 989cc overpriced piece of metal......

(Joking only)
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The whole full range of Viva is overpriced, not just the 989cc. Kelisa & Kenari fair so much better. I think Perodua bribe to get the Supermini category for Viva.





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post Dec 5 2007, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(nizam80 @ Dec 4 2007, 05:50 PM)
If this BLM is equipped with a CPS engine (1.3) and priced starting from RM 29K, it will probably be a best seller. But rite now we're not sure whether it will have CPS yet. hmm.gif
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Low capacity engine benefit more with variable intake than cam changing.
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post Dec 6 2007, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(nizam80 @ Dec 5 2007, 11:11 PM)
Sorry, OT. Does Myvi have Variable Intake together with Cam Changing? I'm not arguing with u. I'm just asking coz between DVVT and VVTi, are there any differences.
No problem bro. MyVi doesn't have variable intake manifold (it is just a dumb hot air intake), and no cam changing at all - just variable valve open-timing on the intake side - or simply just variable phasing. And on the outtake side just a dumb cam.

There shouldn't be any difference as far as the description goes between DVVT and VVTi.

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post Jan 8 2008, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(A1700 @ Jan 7 2008, 07:41 PM)
So, which one is more powerful, IAFM or CPS? Thanks.
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IAFM, VIM are to improve air flow on different conditions by changing the path/width of air intake flow - longer narrower swirl path for low rev, and shorter wider straight path for hi rev. Keyword is efficiency.

CPS is to have two (or more) different configurations of valve lifting (AFAIK, similar to VTEC), one for normal driving, another for crazy driving. Mainly to have more 'input' into the combustion chamber on the hi rev. Keyword is performance.

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post Jan 18 2008, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 18 2008, 12:09 PM)
From what i can see, even 1.6 waja/gen2/persona/neo also hard to go up genting. This one 1.3? shakehead.gif
Gugur engine. Can claim new engine la after that.
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If 3rd gear cannot go up, then downshift to 2nd.
If 2nd gear cannot go up, then downshift to 1st.
If 1st gear cannot go up, the car can throw.

But so far even Kancil can go up, so WTH with 1.3L?

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post Jan 18 2008, 11:12 PM

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model life cycles for Proton are planned for seven years at most and they will not keep a model in production for as long as before.


Let's start counting...

Saga 1985~ (23yrs!! finally being replaced, but still selling?)
Wira 1993~ (15yrs, already WRM but still selling)
Perdana 1995~ (13yrs already, time to change)
Waja 2001~ (7yrs already, time to change?)
Gen2 2004~ (still new smile.gif)
Savvy 2005~ (new smile.gif)
Satria Neo 2006~ (new smile.gif)
Persona 2007~ (very new smile.gif)
New Saga 2008~
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post Jan 21 2008, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Esky @ Jan 21 2008, 05:43 PM)
I find the car providing very good value for $, especially if you compare it to the Iswaras our family bought > 10 yrs ago, at RM39+k, for 1.3 (manual) with '80s technology. With that amt now, you can get the 1.3(auto) new Saga.

what i don't like:
- no side indicators near the front doors! (dangerous to both the driver and other road users)
- "european" reversed position for wiper & indicator stalks (i prefer to shift gear with my left hand and operate the indicator with my right)
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Well, the 1st batch Saga is rm23k. After Proton Knight and Megavalve, it become rm27k. And then slowly goes up.

I agree on the bolded part too.
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QUOTE(Aggronax @ Jan 22 2008, 01:35 PM)
how come the steering so plain ~ no buttons ?
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I prefer not to have buttons, as least it is better than having buttons that looks similar to Form4 KH projects.
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:42 AM

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... BLM rempit? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nerd @ Jan 30 2008, 01:23 AM)
shoot.. I tried to chase a New Saga with trade plates on a straight.. DAMN the car can move fast! my Neo 1.6 A couldn't keep up with it doh.gif x

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Never know 1.6L Neo also cannot keep up to 1.3L Saga... Neo so lousy meh?! tongue.gif You sure got whack your pedal or not?

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