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 Proton SAGA BLM thread - A new SAGA begins, NEW KING ON THE R O A D

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BridgestoneRE711
post Sep 19 2007, 10:27 AM

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how can u all see the car as ugly as it is still in camo. ?
i dont get it at all ... basher or what ?

in my opinion , there are many hot hatch become sedan in this world . why proton choose to use savvy is becasue it is goign to replace the iswara and the savvy is using the most basic and economical structure design , that is why they have chose savvy platform . meanwhile , yes , now it looks boxy . but i wonder why is there no one go and criticize the odd looking X3 which happen to be one of the worst looking bmw ever , or how about the hyundai accent which comes with pre-fitted ah beng elements ?
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post Sep 23 2007, 11:23 AM

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so many keng guys here... a camo-ed car also can see beautiful or not .
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post Nov 21 2007, 11:32 PM

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when car manufacture starts to desperate on thier cost cutting plan , that is the starting of problems . you can see how mercedes has been a victim in cost cutting issue .

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post Jan 19 2008, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jan 18 2008, 11:12 PM)
Let's start counting...

Saga 1985~ (23yrs!! finally being replaced, but still selling?)
Wira 1993~ (15yrs, already WRM but still selling)
Perdana 1995~ (13yrs already, time to change)
Waja 2001~ (7yrs already, time to change?)
Gen2 2004~ (still new smile.gif)
Savvy 2005~ (new smile.gif)
Satria Neo 2006~ (new smile.gif)
Persona 2007~ (very new smile.gif)
New Saga 2008~
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proton waja cannot be discontinued at the moment although it sounds really 7 years already . what syed means is probably those cars under his era .
the cost to develope the proton waja is so high that is is almost 70-80% more than the gen2 . not to mention about the gen2 is actually developed from proton waja's platform . but proton waja platform is also derived from the mitsubishi karisma . I have read somewhere that automotive analysis did mentioned before that the cost to develop proton waja is equivalent to the cost to develop a middle luxury model .
and protn need to sell double the amount of the gen2 car if it were to turn into profit . most probably proton will redesign and reskin the proton waja as proton financial status is kinda low . as for the perdana, it is very possible that proton wont have a replacement for it in this short term . it is becasue proton current standing doesnt really allow them to develop a mid segment car , the perdana as proton simply doesnt have enough fund to develop a model where it capture certain level of the market only. what proton really need now is a MPV which is around 1.3-1.6 segment, by conquering the market with the mpv as to gain the company fund. it enables proton to further develop necessary upper range engine which could be 1.8-2.0 using anohter engine platform, along together with the development , perdana replacement is going on too .
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post Jan 19 2008, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jan 19 2008, 05:45 PM)
huh, your opinion the same as my housemate. Just now he came back home and I ask him about the new car, he said like tin can and have a cheap feel to it. He is mechanics from Toyota. I'm thinking of buying this then suddenly change mind. Oh my
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that is probably just becasue he is a mechanics from toyota .
ask him is avanza good ? i am sure he will say avanza is so good .

by the way, one thing we need to consider when buying a car is the safety, every car skin is being engineered as soft as possible as to absorb the energy before it hits the car chassis . for the frontal part of the car , the skin on the bonnet is engineered as to protect the pedestrian collision. it is mean to be soft . a mechanic might knows about the details of the car but the probably wont know what lies under it, or behind it . but an engineer might miss something as mechanics are more expreienced ,but for sure u cannot as a mechanic to design an engine or a car.
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post Jan 19 2008, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Jan 19 2008, 05:56 PM)
a heavy-weight MPV with jz a 1.3/1.6 as the power train??? omg........... sweat.gif
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toyota avanza is powered by a 1.3 and 1.5 engine .
nissan grand livina is powered by 1.6 and 1.8 .

is there anything wrong ?
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post Jan 29 2008, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(wut2du @ Jan 29 2008, 07:35 AM)
thats what it called drive by wire...it does not response to throttle but the ecu control it thats why it lag.
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drive by wire is supposed to be more responsive than the throttle cable type.

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