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post Jan 8 2022, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(kimteck @ Jan 7 2022, 05:30 PM)
I also admire my "stupidness".. bangwall.gif
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Don't blame yourself too much. After reviewing the item price, I think you are paying current market prices. There won't be perfect renovations.

QUOTE(kimteck @ Dec 18 2021, 03:57 PM)
I have some sleepless night as feel like I being "diok" become "water fish".  A simple plan to move in a 1044 ft unit need RM 100k. What kind of TV feature wall worth RM 5000?
Customized TV feature wall of RM 5000 is considered as cheap if you are using plywood laminate.

QUOTE(kimteck @ Dec 18 2021, 03:57 PM)
2. Last minute work and demand you to reply/agree where work about to commence within 1- 2 days
3. Didn't go through the details of the drawings , and I had to go through myself. When you asking for some clarification, she answered I already sent you the info right.
If you overlook it, jialat. Like what I overlooked the distance from kitchen countertop to wall hung base cabinet as I trusted her profession .. ( I had 8++ mm..) . Later I found up my ideal distance is 760 mm
4. I spot a few mistakes in the drawings, and she has never admitted.
Same practices also. I had one renovation and this round is 2nd sites. Two different contractors but the same style. My current ones have been hacking the concrete several rounds because the plumber placed the concealed pipes wrongly. He constantly blame the drawings. All these contractors build based on their experiences and senses. They don't look at the drawings until the owners spot the mistakes. doh.gif

QUOTE(kimteck @ Dec 19 2021, 11:40 AM)
Price Per Points

downlight/track light points 88
LED light points (built in)  95
pendant light point 140
wall light points        140
ceiling fan points 140
install 13 A points 140
install 15 A points 275
install 20 A point 330
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For these charges, this ID company marked up 10%. It is usual because she has to design the location of the switches, power points. As an end users, we may not come out final design/location. But, there are industry practices e.g. the switches are located 1m above the ground, the power should be 500mm above or 300mm above, and etc. The designer has to have knowledge to prepare the drawing for the electricians to work. Supervise them to work. For my case, the 20A point I am paying RM 331.20 (i.e. RM 288 +15% contractor mark-up) , 13A points I am paying RM 126.50 (RM110 + 15% contractor mark-up). For my case, it was a contractual price I signed with the main con back in Aug 2020!

Overall, I think you are paying the current market price for engaging an ID company or main con. So, don't be over upset. Just enjoy once your renovation is over. My two cents.


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post Jan 8 2022, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(kimteck @ Jan 8 2022, 12:00 PM)
Thanks a lot sharing your experience with me ! May I know what's the distance from your kitchen countertop to base of the wall hung cabinet ?
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800mm + too-, some of the parts, e.g. the ball bearing drawer slides, are standard size. Even disk washers that some people put below the kitchen counter are designed around this size.


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post Jan 8 2022, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(kimteck @ Jan 8 2022, 02:48 PM)
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The circled distance also 800mm +?
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Opp, I might have misunderstand your statement. I am too used to the idea of 800mm.

No, for that area, my current apartment is the same like the drawing i.e. 22" / 560mm.

The drawing is 27 11/16" + 22" + 32 3/16" and mine is 30" (760mm) + 22" (560mm) + 33 7/8" (860mm actually 60 is for platform, the cabinet is 800mm tall only).

Previously, when I had that design, it was due to the height of the sliding door separate my kitchen from dining and living room. I think they will try to match the height of the door enter your kitchen and the cabinet.
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post Jan 9 2022, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(kimteck @ Jan 9 2022, 02:07 PM)
I have 33 5/58" + 32 9/32 " (820mm) + 35 7/16" (100mm as platform). And I was blamed for changing their measurement..
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820mm - I think that is too high even if you are using those pull down shelves.

You should ask her to fix it or you go to consumer tribunal to complain

https://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/en/consumerism/c...-procedure.html


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post Jan 9 2022, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(sawhueijye @ Jan 9 2022, 02:27 PM)
Hello guys, just want to ask what is the normal practice for electrical work? My cabling was done without conduit/ trunking system and I was told by the contractor because the work is minimal so not need conduit. Is it true?
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Normally, the wire should be in the UPVC Conduit pipe and concealed in the wall. If I were you, I would ask what is his definition of "minimal"?
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post Jan 9 2022, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(kimteck @ Jan 9 2022, 09:54 PM)
I requested to change , same goes to gas stove countertop , 900mm, with wok stand height, my wok will be placed at 968mm , how to carry the stainless steel wok when cooking ?

Now saying I'm changing the drawings , so have to delay the project till the drawings is fixed. I am now the one being blamed by architect due to her 'no common sense ' design. Pity me
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My cases are worse than yours.

RC slabs and beams casted and then found problems. Need to hack and repair the structures. Then, sewage pipes positioned wrongly - not only once but multiple times.

Roof requirements told. But, when the subcon came, not the design I specified.

So, I have to create a whatsapp group to include my wife. Just in case my phone is not working, I have a backup to show him that I specified my requirements. doh.gif

Of course, he blamed I frequently change the design. laugh.gif

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post Jan 10 2022, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(sawhueijye @ Jan 10 2022, 02:06 PM)
Very unfortunate that the renovation is at final stage and touch up only. All wiring & painting works have been completed. So guess it is too late to ask him to redo.

However, is there any issue if the wires were lay in the wall instead of the conduit?

1. Will the cable spoil/ short circuit in the future? I am using Mega Cable.

2. Anything I need to take note/ take care other than drilling work in the future?
He said it is normal practice for them to lay the wire in the wall as I am using Mega Cable and in order for him to lay conduit then he has to drill deeper into the wall which is not practical for condominium. I was only told about this after the work done.
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Ya, newer condo are using concrete or precast concrete slab. It is difficult to drill concrete.

Currently I am staying in a condo. When I installed my TV rack several years back, the technician complained that he had to consume one drill head for each hole he drilled.

Cables are different from those wires used in the extension cords and they are durables.
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post Jan 12 2022, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jan 12 2022, 07:20 PM)
The drill bit used also makes a difference. Carbide SDS bits last much longer. Elcheapo round shank bits botak very fast. I also drilled a lot of concrete walls and ceiling slabs and I don't think you can wear out SDS carbide bits in just a single hole for finger size 10mm in newer concrete..unless the building is 50 years' type like Rifle Range flat in Penang.
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My old condo was built by Sunrise. I don't know what drill bits the installer used. But, seriously, I saw it by myself how often the installer changed.

But, honestly, for some Ikea hanging storage, I drilled the holes by myself. Even those I bought most expensive ones from Ace Hardware - they also cannot last. I don't even dream to use those China product from Mr DIY. laugh.gif

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post Jul 1 2022, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(kimteck @ Jul 1 2022, 02:00 PM)
After all the work, I have to fix many defects by myself. Even a sliding windows installation is leaking water when heavy rain. No more layan you after the full payment. Lesson learnt no 1. never get a one stop station to do the work unless they are very reputable and reliable. .

If you see some name with N**Y , remember my renovation experience.
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Yes, I agree. I further add one more point : if the company is one-man show, ignore the quote even it sounds logical or cheaper.

I have been vomitting blood with my existing contractors -

(a) Main con did not state the skimming in the main contract. Now, before painting, want to charge me RM5 psf - even the market rate is 1.20 - 1.80. I have to get in a third party to tell him off that I am taking back the painting work.
(b) Electrical subcontractor appointed by main con further subcontract to Myanmar workers that could not converse in Bahasa. Worse, when I ask for quotation, the price was premium because I requested for fully concealed. Now, they the conduits in the RC slabs for lights but missed out network and power sockets. Then, they simply lay on the concrete floor and expect the 2" cement rendering is the layer that conceal the conduits. But, I have timber flooring and the nails will penetrate 30mm into the floor and will hit the conduits. The timber installers and my brother who has more than 20 years of experiences in construction of factory advised to hack grooves. Yet, this electrical subcontractor dared to criticise experienced contractors are from North Korea and never see his solutions.

I think local renovation industry needs a revolution platform like Grab. Transform the industry and kick out all those black sheeps.

 

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