DNB Ericsson 5G backward compatibility with 4G chipset sucks.

My 4G equipment which uses Marvell chipset Marvell PXA1802 immediately got throttled after YES switched my area's base station over to DNB 5G Ericsson equipment.
All those who use non popular 4G chipset based equipments such as Unisoc, Marvell, Sequoia BEWARE your devices may have ended their lifespan and use.

Depends, it's already known YES lame 5G network throttles you by your device IMEI and therefore ever since their network switched over/equipment replacement for their 5G network they've filtered lots of devices out from their compatibility list forcing you to only buy their products or compatible phones.

I was previously on their Kasi Up 49 Postpaid plan enjoying their 100GB monthly quota which supports hotspot usage legally because pure quota based also got throttled down to 1Mbps speeds with my 4G modem which made they untrusted company which forces old customers to either comply to only use their modem with contract or move out.

When it detects your phone/modem device is not in their small lame list of compatible devices which they don't like you owning for contract freedom they'll start throtling your device and their customer rep will just tell you your equipment is "not in their compatible list".

The whole idea is to force you to only use their 5G modem is because of the 2 years contract which requires FULL remaining months commitment if you terminate early.

A modded modem simply isnt considered illegal. It just spoofs/imitates the IMEI of a compatible device to circumvent the troublesome throttling which you're already entitled to use when paying for your service no difference from others. Meaning if a modem's IMEI is modded with a Apple iPhone IMEI, the ISP network will be tricked into thinking you're using a iPhone n their network and if it's in their compatibility list you'll pass/avoid throttling.

Of course I'm not telling. I'm just telling you the limitation of this method which actually make your honest customers more infuriated.

Why after the switch to 5G equipment for Yes 5G made many complaints for Yes. They nail their own foot.

How do you feel as a customer who previously subscribed to the Kasi up 49 Postpaid plan with 100GB hotspot allowable quota limit paying your bills on time every month suddenly cannot use it even you did not even do anything to abuse the system and don't even use half of the amount every month? Worst the customer care just shove the lame excuse say your device not supported when all before no problem/issues?

You want to burn their 5G network down?

It's like deliberately forcing consumers to sign up their unfair plans with 2 years commitment contracts. Say they have 10 5G phone models to sell under their brand promo, they place all the 10 5G models under their brand in the compatible list then other 5G phones out there which can work with their network they place their IMEI under forbidden list to prevent customers from BYO phones to avoid contracts. All those in forbidden list IMEIs or not in their compatible list will get throttled to 1Mbps slow speeds upon connecting.

What is your feel? You have confidence in such lame anti competition and sly practices?

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Sep 16 2022, 07:50 PM

Already quota based still want to restrict users from device specific based? Can you see who is the one wrong here? Consumer taken for a ride or the victim is the telco? Obviously is the telco being outright dishonest here. Bad reputation for YES. Already selling a limited quota plan still want to add restriction for device used?

What is the difference consuming 100GB on a phone vs a desktop PC? Both is still 100GB of data transferred. So does it make a difference if I place the SIM into a modem or in a phone itself?
This is not an unlimited all you can use plan only on a compatible phone. There's no TnC rule that mentioned the plan was only for phones and it must compulsory be used only with phones.

There's a hard cap of 100GB on it. If I use a modded modem with an unlimited plan said specifically must be placed only on phones then fine it's consumer to blame. But a quota limited plan still want to be greedy and force use on phones only?

Who says?

All their quota based plans are usable in all devices any restrictions. In fact if you put into the modem your quota depletes faster which means you will top up more frequently with the telco giving them more revenues.

If it's unlimited based then different story they don't want you to turn your prepaid plan into a fixed line broadband service and that's the whole reason why they only allow it on phones. they want to sell you the fixed wireless fibre plan and force you to sign up their 2 years unfair contract instead where if you don't want to continue halfway you are slapped with a remaining months penalty else your name will be blacklisted in CTOS if don't pay up.

True. I used the Maxis Postpaid 98 plan in my Maxis One plan also no issues, Hotlink quota based HotlinkMU (not the unlimited package), Digi Postpaid 60 above, Celcom Postpaid Lightning (not Unlimited high speed quota) all also can hotspot without restrictions with all monthly quota allocation usable in modem.

Ericsson sucks many incompatibility issues with China phone models. If you own Huawei, Oppo, Realme, Xiaomi, Redmi, Vivo and many other China brands you're going to get lots of non supported phones with their 5G network.

I can't bring myself to believe that Malaysia is categorized under the same group as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka for 5G market. This is a new low.

Trust me these western consultants which DNB approached knew nuts about the East Asian market or even China. They went with their own ways and method disregarding the fact that lots of Malaysian used China products and phone models due to their affordability pricing and high adoption rates.

The made the same blunder last time with the HSBB Unifi project by seeking consultancy with some dumb Australian company. Back then Australian was just as bad if not worser than Malaysia in fibre network deployment.

The ping is not good comparing with fibre.

Double digit for local server is copper wiring speeds.

Fibre can get you single digit close to 1ms if you live in KL or SG to local servers.

You can opt for the no contract plan.

Click on the arrow beside 24-month contract. A drop down list will appear.



This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Oct 18 2022, 09:18 PM

Fair enough. The RM400 is to settle the standard installation charges and the supplied equipment such as router/modem given to the customer which you're free to keep it as your own. Truly free from any lawsuit letter or blacklisting.

With TM and the rest of ISPs which rides on its Unifi network you're subjected to X remaining months of your contracted subscription + SST.

You know what that means many more Malaysians are going to be caught up blacklisted with CTOS records if they don't pay up or afford to continue their subscription fee if they move elsewhere.

Lots of Malaysians already know these dirty unfair policy which until now MCMC still reluctant to take action against the telcos instead favoring them and keeping quiet. It's like they favor Malaysians getting blacklisted by CTOS records and getting slaved by the system.


Nope, if you choose the 24 months contract early termination only costs RM500 for Time and you're released from the contract unlike sending you a last bill amounting to X remaining months with a lawyer letter awaiting.
Be careful of the CTOS blacklist TRAP which many of my friends in Penang here warned me about. Just because of a lousy telco service worth getting a blacklisted status on your identity similar to bankruptcy?

Big difference.

You have a better option with TM and YES?

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Oct 19 2022, 09:33 PM

YES being a 5G provider is still relevant to this topic. They're implementing similar contract tactic like TM for their Wireless Fibre plans and therefore is worth mentioning in here.

Phone only plans are a joke.

Nowdays PC and console games all digital DRM based.

One game already 50-100GB in size. If 5G is marketed for its speed and low latency then why cannot insert SIM inside modem but only must be in the phone?

5G networks will eventually become white elephants. Just wait and see for yourself.

It doesn't bring much benefits to consumers except most of its expensive initial investment costs being pushed towards the end users.

Why?

If you're already enjoying improved saturated 4G speeds of 50Mbps-200Mbps using LTE CAT6 devices or above, you don't have much need for 5G in your phone or should not even bother about it.
What do you plan to do with your 1Gbps speed test results on your phone when you're forced to only use it in your phone exclusively?

Latency? FTTH still pawns 5G any day as much as 3-4X faster. You're getting 20ms latency to local servers even in Klang Valley? You're getting less then 5ms on your FTTH.

You're better off investing into 10G FTTH tech or DWDM 25Gbps Consumer grade Next Gen FTTH which is already moving towards mainstream with cheaper investment such as what TIME is doing now instead of investing billions in unproven 5G tech which is expensive and yet unproven.

5G is still very new with many hiccups. Can you get a stable lock on your 5G network like the already mature 4G networks? FTTH still blows 5G away in terms of stability, consistency and pricing. Commercial enterprise/carrier public WiFi is a Big Challenger to 5G networks.

How many are going to buy decent 5G capable phones out there spending thousands now when your existing 4G phone is already capable of comfortable speeds of 50M-100M on average?
Just to brag and show off your speed tests when you can't do much with your phone?

5G has much better use if you place it in SIM capable 5G ready tablets instead of phones using them as notebooks replacements.

In terms of fixed network, 5G will never catch up with FTTH now moving towards 10G above speeds with super low latencies.

Why the Chinese vendors are still quiet about this allowing Ericsson a large pie of the market over here?
They'll eventually beat you in terms of pricing, flexibility, capacity, options and financing later as the market matures.

We pay for unproven, expensive and overhyped initial startup which eventually will overflow to consumers having to pay expensive subscription fees later. If we are not careful we'll repeat the same mistakes as our failed HSBB fibre projects last time when it was launched during the technology was still at its infancy knowing nothing about it. End up? Today Unifi cannot even offer 1Gbps symmetrical plans due to its flawed planning. They went and oversold their GPON ODN which uses splicing at 1:64 ratio which is outdated later by ITU/IEEE standards.

Careful with these 5G replacement networks.

They're now proactively banning or throttling unfamiliar non MCMC certified phones/modems IMEI with the new 5G networks which uses a new subset of identifiers which are called PEI.
Many of us who bought China imported phones even branded top models from overseas but flashed with international firmwares will also be affected.

Suddenly you'll find your phone even after inserted with valid SIMs will not connect to the telco network despite having a valid active account. You're money then totally wasted. You can spoof IMEI easily with modified modems but not with phones which cancels your warranty.

I have a few China 4G phones (TCL, HONOR, Ulefone and Doogee) & OEM branded modems already affected by this even when they're not modded with quota based plans. When you turn them on no network shows up. They just refuse to connect. They became bricks and wasted e-waste.

Don't say VoLTE, even logging on to the 4G network hoping to use data only also blocked. Totally useless.

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Nov 6 2022, 02:03 PM

Don't take this lightly many will cry after importing high end phones directly from cheaper markets in future such as China and Vietnam later to find out the phones cannot connect to Malaysian telco networks in future due to no MCMC certification.

Also when this happens expect phone prices in Malaysia to go up soon because MCMC will charge royalty licensing fees to those phone manufacturers who wants to be whitelisted in the list.

You don't simply go order a high end phone from Taobao, Aliexpress, Lazada only to find out it's IMEI is blacklisted or not contained in MCMC green list. High end spec but cannot use in this country.

Totally no network at all with ZERO bars. If APN or settings incorrect the most you get is unable to access internet or go online. This one the network totally unavailable. No bars including a X on the signal icon.

I placed a active SIM without any unlimited subscription plan with just topped up value into the China branded imported phones. After not being able to detect any network I swap the same SIM back into a local warranty phone. Straight the network went back online with full bars.

My China phone Qualcomm chipset yo. Can't tell you the exact model don't want prying eyes to find out.

FDD Band 1,3,5,7,20, 38/40/41 TDD all support.

How do you explain when I first bought the phone 2 years ago pre COVID the time I had full bars with local telco SIM inside then one day my area got upgraded to 5G infra by DNB it cannot connect already?

You say my area signal weak, it's a phone of course I test it at multiple places and no all the 4G bands you mentioned is supported by it. Nope no signal or network anywhere.

When I call the useless telco customer service the answer they can give me is my phone not in their "supported list". Meaning what? My phone IMEI already so lucky inside their blacklist?

You don't need 5G you need this:

What is deemed black market? MCMC paid license royalty approval?
Like that in future all imported cheap phones from other countries but more expensive sold here in Malaysia is deemed black market? Illegal?

Big songlap will happen.