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post Nov 24 2021, 08:24 PM, updated 5y ago

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Not a motorhead, but in dilemma which one shld i go for

In specs wise, which one win?

I like that mini suv look of ativa. (x50 my top choice but waiting list very long)

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post Nov 24 2021, 08:45 PM

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topup a bit god car GR spec gooding.
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post Nov 24 2021, 09:01 PM

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I havent test drive the new myvi yet but drove the Ativa

Assuming everything in the myvi is the same except the gearbox and safety features, I would say go for the Ativa

But if you need rear space Myvi is definitely better
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post Nov 24 2021, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(metalfire @ Nov 24 2021, 08:45 PM)
topup a bit god car GR spec gooding.
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30k not a bit leh
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post Nov 24 2021, 09:52 PM

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30k over 9 years sap sap sui la but that GR badge instant vroom
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post Nov 24 2021, 09:57 PM

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from what ive read on the new myvi, its pretty much the same but with the "level-2 semi autonomous driving" capability

mind you, it only works on realistically perfect conditions (so basically never in malaysia) and between speeds of 30~120kmph

so, if you are into resale value and smaller cheaper cars - get the myvi.
if you are into higher seating position, get the ativa for slightly more

also, i would rather walk than drive an x50
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post Nov 24 2021, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ludwig. @ Nov 24 2021, 09:57 PM)
from what ive read on the new myvi, its pretty much the same but with the "level-2 semi autonomous driving" capability

mind you, it only works on realistically perfect conditions (so basically never in malaysia) and between speeds of 30~120kmph

so, if you are into resale value and smaller cheaper cars - get the myvi.
if you are into higher seating position, get the ativa for slightly more

also, i would rather walk than drive an x50
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Wah... Why the hate to x50? Can share experience ah? Wanna know also.

Thanks for the insight bro. I like the higher seating position, ive been driving 2 generation of myvi alrd, 1st and 2nd, getting tired. Lol.
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post Nov 24 2021, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(N900rocks @ Nov 24 2021, 10:29 PM)
Wah... Why the hate to x50? Can share experience ah? Wanna know also.

Thanks for the insight bro. I like the higher seating position, ive been driving 2 generation of myvi alrd, 1st and 2nd, getting tired. Lol.
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just a joke la hahahha
because people's experience with the x50 or x70 is that even minor crashes or repairs will take, no joke, months to solve due to parts needing to ship from china and logistics and proton specialists messing up and etc

from personal experience, my sister's x70 had to go back to the shop a total of 5 times within 2 months to get the front bumper replaced
how do i know this? because i was the one sending it over smile.gif
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post Nov 24 2021, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(N900rocks @ Nov 24 2021, 10:29 PM)
Wah... Why the hate to x50? Can share experience ah? Wanna know also.

Thanks for the insight bro. I like the higher seating position, ive been driving 2 generation of myvi alrd, 1st and 2nd, getting tired. Lol.
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Then don't think anymore.. ativa
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post Nov 24 2021, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Nov 24 2021, 10:32 PM)
Then don't think anymore.. ativa
Faster book. Long queue
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Gonna trade in my 2nd gen 2016 ix myvi 1.3😂
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post Nov 24 2021, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ludwig. @ Nov 24 2021, 10:31 PM)
just a joke la hahahha
because people's experience with the x50 or x70 is that even minor crashes or repairs will take, no joke, months to solve due to parts needing to ship from china and logistics and proton specialists messing up and etc

from personal experience, my sister's x70 had to go back to the shop a total of 5 times within 2 months to get the front bumper replaced
how do i know this? because i was the one sending it over smile.gif
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post Nov 24 2021, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 24 2021, 09:01 PM)
Assuming everything in the myvi is the same except the gearbox and safety features, I would say go for the Ativa
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Most things are the same except ENGINE.

Myvi 1.3 & 1.5 NA, Ativa 1L turbo.
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post Nov 24 2021, 11:13 PM

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High ground clearance for Ativa. 1L turbo save road tax, but power like 1.5L

5 years maintenance cost seems quite decent. Tires nicer but of course more expensive.

The things the factory model lacks is easily fixed by aftermarket products.
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post Nov 24 2021, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Nov 24 2021, 11:04 PM)
Most things are the same except ENGINE.

Myvi 1.3 & 1.5 NA, Ativa 1L turbo.
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Not just engine but the whole chassis. Ativa is using DNGA while Myvi is still using an old platform with updates. You can feel Ativa is more solid and refined while driving. Myvi is still typical Myvi with old Perodua feel

I also prefer the interior design more than the Myvi

Just a shame it felt more cramp at the rear

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post Nov 25 2021, 12:34 AM

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Do check if your needs change as well
Do you have kids, more long journeys etc

Maybe both car also don't serve you well
Perhaps a 7seater? Pickup truck? Full size sedan?
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post Nov 25 2021, 12:40 AM

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hmm my wife initially wanna buy ativa or x50

but then changed her mind and wanna br-v instead.. now waiting for SA to process the loan and etc
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post Nov 25 2021, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Nov 25 2021, 12:40 AM)
hmm my wife initially wanna buy ativa or x50

but then changed her mind and wanna br-v instead.. now waiting for SA to process the loan and etc
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Oh your wife is a practical woman. A 7-seater is essential for a family. Even without carrying passengers, the added space at the back can be useful sometimes in transporting goods ( small furniture, bicycles, portrait pictures etc ...)

Other options for her can be a Mitsubishi Xpander ---- newer in the market, bigger, and slightly cheaper too. Is the Xpander in her consideration as well ?

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post Nov 25 2021, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Nov 25 2021, 01:40 AM)
hmm my wife initially wanna buy ativa or x50

but then changed her mind and wanna br-v instead.. now waiting for SA to process the loan and etc
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Personally i got few friends feedback that Honda br-v is not that great is just the badge and safety features is quite bare..

If you compare to Perodua Aruz or even Mitsubishi Xpander both of them overall in term of safety or drivability also better compare to it.. Is no brainer to buy Honda br-v nowadays.. The competition from others already topple it..

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post Nov 25 2021, 08:57 AM

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new BRV just launched in indonesia. You might want to wait for the new BRV
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post Nov 25 2021, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Nov 24 2021, 11:13 PM)
High ground clearance for Ativa. 1L turbo save road tax, but power like 1.5L

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Let me comment a thing or two.
Downsized engines does not save fuel and give power concurrently. Its either you drive like you stole it or drive sanely.
And usually those who own with turbo mostly won't drive leisurely. If you gonna drive sanely might as well go for 1.5L NA.
Otherwise defeat the purpose of a turbo engin and defeat the purpose of saving fuel because of a smaller engine.

Go and survey Civic 1.5T owners, see what's their town driving FC. Only town driving. Don't quote those Highway FC.
The FC drinks more or less like a 2.0L.

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post Nov 25 2021, 08:59 AM

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BTW, depending on how & where you drive. If just normal city drive with greater safety features, Perodua Myvi would be a better choice.

If want a higher seating feel, then go for Ativa.
BTW, do take note that due to turbo engine & bigger wheel size in long term the maintenance might be higher compare to Myvi if you want to considerate all the factors. Lower maintenance side Myvi will be the better 1.

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post Nov 25 2021, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Nov 25 2021, 12:34 AM)
Do check if your needs change as well
Do you have kids, more long journeys etc

Maybe both car also don't serve you well
Perhaps a 7seater? Pickup truck? Full size sedan?
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Not married, single and always drive alone in the city only. Occasionally cruising on highway on weekend for short trip.

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post Nov 25 2021, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Kendall @ Nov 25 2021, 08:57 AM)
new BRV just launched in indonesia. You might want to wait for the new BRV
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But brv 7 seaters nia, i always drive alone only
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post Nov 25 2021, 09:43 AM

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opcoz myvi..
u drive ativa ppl no give way..
u drive myvi ppl automatic givev way & dun even dare overtake..

ppl dun call G-car for nuthin..
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post Nov 25 2021, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(N900rocks @ Nov 25 2021, 09:41 AM)
But brv 7 seaters nia, i always drive alone only
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ohh, i thought you're the one with the wife just booked BRV.
Well, if you dont need the extra space, get the Ativa. Myvi's 1.5 will be obsolete and replaced by the 1.0T for next generation. At least you still have the latest technology when the myvi is replaced by newer generation model.
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post Nov 25 2021, 10:16 AM

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for more city driven i would say myvi

if u are dealing with more off road like kampung road, altiva , since it is higher clearance

maintenance wise, a car without turbo is cheaper to maintain for mechanical part

road tax RM20 vs RM90 yearly

me myself looking for myvi next year, not to the highest spec since cruise control quite useless for my family as the car mostly used for city driven

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post Nov 25 2021, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(N900rocks @ Nov 25 2021, 09:40 AM)
Not married, single and always drive alone in the city only. Occasionally cruising on highway on weekend for short trip.
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oo.. then ativa. dont think so much


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post Nov 25 2021, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Nov 25 2021, 08:58 AM)
Let me comment a thing or two.
Downsized engines does not save fuel and give power concurrently. Its either you drive like you stole it or drive sanely.
And usually those who own with turbo mostly won't drive leisurely. If you gonna drive sanely might as well go for 1.5L NA.
Otherwise defeat the purpose of a turbo engin and defeat the purpose of saving fuel because of a smaller engine.

Go and survey Civic 1.5T owners, see what's their town driving FC. Only town driving. Don't quote those Highway FC.
The FC drinks more or less like a 2.0L.
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Reported real life FC is 15km/l city drive isn't it? A bit worse than myvi
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QUOTE(Kendall @ Nov 25 2021, 09:45 AM)
ohh, i thought you're the one with the wife just booked BRV.
Well, if you dont need the extra space, get the Ativa. Myvi's 1.5 will be obsolete and replaced by the 1.0T for next generation. At least you still have the latest technology when the myvi is replaced by newer generation model.
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Won't obsolete so soon lah for God King.
P2 just recently launched new facelifted Myvi with most 'hated' CVT tranny tech paired with the NA engine and updated ASS-A 3.0.
Expect the Myvi 1.5 engine to stay much longer

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QUOTE(Kendall @ Nov 25 2021, 09:45 AM)
ohh, i thought you're the one with the wife just booked BRV.
Well, if you dont need the extra space, get the Ativa. Myvi's 1.5 will be obsolete and replaced by the 1.0T for next generation. At least you still have the latest technology when the myvi is replaced by newer generation model.
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haha that's me

my wife didn't like xpander front design.. quite ugly she say laugh.gif
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post Nov 25 2021, 11:04 AM

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Crossover on a highway sounds like a good idea, but unlike X50/HRV/CX3, Ativa is a lightweight car that weighs barely a tonne.

Tall + boxy + lightweight + highway is never a good idea.

It's good for city driving with elevated seating position and higher ground clearance, but for general usage the Myvi would be better.

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Nov 25 2021, 11:02 AM)
haha that's me

my wife didn't like xpander front design.. quite ugly she say  laugh.gif
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i mean there are new BRV launching anytime next year. you wanna wait for that?
Indonesia launched it this year.
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post Nov 25 2021, 11:21 AM

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i testdrove the 1.5NA 4AT g3 and Ativa,
main noticeable different is the NVH.
myvi engine sound is so loud and underpower even for a 1.5 compared with ativa 1.0turbo cvt.
Ativa NVH is way better than the myvi.
spec wise ofcourse ativa, alot fancy and latest tech stuff. which the new myvi now have but no armrest.


and i think you've already made your choices,

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QUOTE(Kendall @ Nov 25 2021, 11:20 AM)
i mean there are new BRV launching anytime next year. you wanna wait for that?
Indonesia launched it this year.
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can't wait since need the car ASAP, rainy season now, sometimes i had to fetch my son to/from school on motorbike. current car used by wife to work.

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post Nov 25 2021, 11:44 AM

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imo ativa lah, ativa has alot of small improvement to quality of life when you drive compare to myvi. suspension is one, myvi crashy suspension and ativa is slightly better since its taller car and using DNGA platform.

things like center arm rest, cup holders at useable locations and more storage spaces at the centre console area also will help your daily life greatly. myvi has none of that.

also myvi the seat is very short so your thighs wont get proper support and easy to get tired after driving awhile.

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Ativa with DNGA platform basically give you a better or more premium feel while driving. There is a marked difference between the old and new platform.

For long term ownership, just get the Ativa and forget about the price diff.
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Nov 25 2021, 10:29 AM)
Reported real life FC is 15km/l city drive isn't it? A bit worse than myvi
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Nope, worse.
As reported by WapCar , around 11-12km/L city driving.

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Our Ativa is filled with RON95 at RM2.05 per litre and we’ve spent a sum of RM 1,461.49 based on the receipt total.

An observation is that when we drove the Ativa in stop-go city traffic, the fuel consumption soared to 8 – 9 L/100 km. Only on smooth highway journeys at a constant speed, the fuel consumption dipped below 7 L/100 km.
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To this date, we fail to achieve Perodua’s claimed figures of 18.9 km/L or 5.29 L/100 km.

From our experience so far, we can conclude that the Ativa is not very efficient in stop-go traffic and the 1.0-litre 3-cylinder turbo works best cruising at 80 – 110 km/h.
https://www.wapcar.my/news/we%E2%80%99ve-sp...review-16-34608

Wait for the FC review for the new Myvi 1.5 CVT based.
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 25 2021, 11:04 AM)


Tall + boxy + lightweight + highway is never a good idea.


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I thought so too but after borrowing my daughter Ativa for 2 weeks, some spirited driving on the Highway proved me wrong.

Best cruising speed is ard 140 kmh and the new platform is a gem compared to myvi.

70% highway got me ard 15kml only but mostly over 4000 rpm
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Nov 25 2021, 08:52 AM)

If you compare to Perodua Aruz or even Mitsubishi Xpander both of them overall in term of safety or drivability also better compare to it.. Is no brainer to buy Honda br-v nowadays.. The competition from others already topple it..
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No brainer
= little or no mental effort needed
= definitely should do
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post Nov 26 2021, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Nov 25 2021, 11:41 PM)
No brainer
= little or no mental effort needed
= definitely should do
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Well , sarcastically if he knew. rolleyes.gif
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TS if i were you i will choose ativa over myvi, since you said that you have been driving 2 generation of myvi. So definitely will choose another type of car (compact SUV) to have a different driving feel.
But bare in mind that 3 cylinder & turbo engine & bigger wheel size in long term maintenance might be higher compare to Myvi.
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post Nov 26 2021, 09:23 AM

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Just save that 10k and get the myvi, 1.5NA is more reliable and fuel savings than 1.0 turbo.
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Proton got announcement at 11am later, might launch new sedan it seems. So can keep an eye of that.
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post Nov 26 2021, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Nov 26 2021, 09:25 AM)
Proton got announcement at 11am later, might launch new sedan it seems. So can keep an eye of that.
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Announced new gallery only...
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Announced new gallery only...
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That's true. Quite disappointing.
Did some office renovation also need to do hype announcement.
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Currently driving a 3rd gen Myvi (pre-facelift).
After test-driving the Ativa I was amazed by its performance and its package. A lot of designs that are actually friendly to users compared to Myvi but some designs don't make sense (chrome parts at the air cond vents, centre console, storage space...).
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QUOTE(darren_yuri @ Sep 19 2024, 12:43 PM)
Currently driving a 3rd gen Myvi (pre-facelift).
After test-driving the Ativa I was amazed by its performance and its package. A lot of designs that are actually friendly to users compared to Myvi but some designs don't make sense (chrome parts at the air cond vents, centre console, storage space...).
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Ativa is rebadged JDM model catering to Japanese market.

Myvi is designed primarily for msian buyers.
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Sep 19 2024, 01:10 PM)
Ativa is rebadged JDM model catering to Japanese market.

Myvi is designed primarily for msian buyers.
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Agreed, till the end it is really up to personal preferences..
Myvi (especially the facelifted ver) with CVT and improvement on safety features are quite an improvement compared to the pre-facelift ones..
However it is also time to consider to upgrade my ride from Myvi to Ativa..
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Im used to underestimate ativa but lately it seems caught my attention since test drive my office mate ativa

 

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