I think you meant Selita, Miyota, Concepto, Kenissi and Vaucher.

ETA is now only supplying to Swatch group brands mostly.

But how much does he spend on supercars like the Porsche Taycan and Maclarens? He has the largest private collection of Porsche cars in the world.

True also. But..

What does bill gates have to do with this thread though?

And Casio is not even entry level luxury..

Tudor movement is made by Kenissi.

It is not in-house. Definitely not Rolex movement.

AP watches also appreciating like gila babi. All now above RM100k..

Not this time though. Rolex is very vertically integrated and don’t need another movement maker. The only reason why they use Kenissi is because of costs.

They priced Tudor as cheap watches and needed a cheap Swiss movement that is not as common as Selita, Valjoux or ETA. Vaucher and Concepto are too expensive. So that leaves Kenissi as the cheap ETA alternative.

A little know fact is that Tudor watches sent in for servicing are not serviced per se. They will just replace the movement as it is cheaper to do so.

Best watch in the world is the one that brings you the most joy.

Million dollar question is where are you going to get your NOMOS serviced? It’s using in-house movement and there are no official service centers here locally.

Seasoned collectors know to avoid brands with in-house movements and no official service centers to supply spare parts. Those two who voted NOMOS must be noobs.

Taking into account the servicing costs is what separates the seasoned collectors from noobs and wannabes. Rule of thumb is servicing will cost around 10% of the current MSRP price. 30k watch? Be prepared to pay around RM3k now and more later when the watch MSRP goes up or it gets to vintage status.

Vintage simple 3 handed omegas are getting hit with a RM8k minimum for servicing by the Swatch Group. YMMV

And service intervals is 2 years for a heavily worn watch and 5-8 years for a lightly worn watch that is on rotation.

https://www.fashionbeans.com/2016/hidden-co...g-luxury-watch/

This post has been edited by PoorButHumble: Nov 18 2021, 09:12 PM

It’s still not in-house. In-house means unique movement produced and used exclusively by the brand.

You don’t call Hamilton and Tissot watches with ETA movements in-house even though it is made by ETA and they are all part of the Swatch Group.

So, the same logic applies to Tudor and Kenissi. Kenissi also makes movements for Chanel, Breitling and a lot of other micro brands.

This post has been edited by PoorButHumble: Nov 18 2021, 09:30 PM

Ya. Most collectors learned the hard way when they are well into a decade of collecting. That’s when the watches they purchased earlier in their collecting phase will start to break down and require servicing. Even those that you don’t wear will also need servicing at the 10 year mark due to the oils inside the movement drying up.

I learned the hard way when watches in my collection broke down one after another. I remember spending over $20k in one year just on servicing fees before I started to sell watches that I don’t wear that much anymore. In the past, I had a sizable collection but had to consolidate into a smaller more manageable collection due to not wanting to maintain all of them.

Mostly Omegas and Rolexes. But am moving into quartz watches now due to the lower maintenance costs and cool factor.

Service turnaround times are around 4 weeks for most brands but can be up to 6 months for PP and AP.

I guess you are retired or don’t work as you will need to stay in Germany for 4 weeks while waiting to collect back your watch from servicing.

Used to be true a couple of years ago. But Omega have since moved the co-axial movements to be produced in-house at their newly opened factory.

https://www.omegawatches.com/stories/omegas...ctory-is-opened

Ever tried using our local postal service to mail expensive watches overseas? Yup. Good luck trying to claim insurance on missing parcels. They won’t pay out in full as there is a disclaimer that says “don’t put any valuables or money” inside the courier parcel boxes.

AP is sent to the AP service center near Starhill. They will personally hand carry your AP watch across the border to Singapore once a month. Even they don’t do mailing.

True story.

This post has been edited by PoorButHumble: Nov 18 2021, 11:29 PM

AP, PP and GS are fine as they are shipped overseas by the authorised agent here. If your watch goes missing or stolen, they will compensate you.

With Nomos and other micro brands with zero brand presence here, you are effectively taking all the risks by shipping it yourself. Caveat emptor

Nah dude. I don’t own any APs. Just Rolexes and Omegas. I have a few vintage Omegas but nothing worth as much as his stuff.

Courier service offers insurance but up to a certain limit. It’s not a full payout unless you inform them that the shipment is high value beforehand. Then it’s up to their prerogative whether to take the shipment at a higher price or decline it. Their normal service only pay out up to a certain amount.

https://www.gdexpress.com/singapore/service...ility-coverage/

The theft usually happens locally before it gets overseas. No need to get worked up over this. It’s your watch and your money. Just be aware of the pitfalls when you send your watch in for its first service.

Why you sus me? Is it because I diss your Nomos? Lol.

Nomos is not a junk brand but it having no authorised agent or service center here makes it undesirable for a lot of people. No hard feelings okay.

Ok. Why are you worried about being robbed on the streets? That’s a visible crime. Nobody is stupid enough to rob you in broad daylight in this age of handphones.

Stealing parcels however is much easier and have been done before.

https://www.malaymail.com/amp/news/malaysia...-bazaar/1758916