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 Kedah was not under Siamese rule

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JimbeamofNRT
post Nov 1 2021, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Nov 1 2021, 08:16 AM)
Ahmad Murad Merican ...

ini anak murica  ????

actually Melaka until Temasik (Singapore) was ruled by Siam what,..
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basically indian who convert to muslim

along the way become malay bumi
JimbeamofNRT
post Nov 1 2021, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Syeikh Ruler al-Hotzz @ Nov 1 2021, 09:01 AM)
Bangsa mamak maa...unlimited hikmat putaran alam semesta
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these mamak really pandai putar halim I tell you

they are also not local but act like real local knn

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JimbeamofNRT
post Nov 1 2021, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Nov 1 2021, 09:18 AM)
Trying hard to become important
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just be proud of yourself lah. why changed to jawi peranakan, jawi pekan, real wtf.
JimbeamofNRT
post Nov 1 2021, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Srbn @ Nov 1 2021, 08:06 AM)

‘Dead wrong’ to say Kedah was under Siamese rule, says professor

“Why would we rely on another country’s perspective of our history?

“It is treacherous and seditious for PHT to make such claims based on the history narrated by another country.”

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Burney Treaty 1826 - The treaty acknowledged Siamese claims over the five northern Malay states of Kedah, Kelantan, Perlis, Terengganu—the future Unfederated Malay States—and Patani.
The treaty further guaranteed British possession of Penang and their rights to trade in Kelantan and Terengganu without Siamese interference.

Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909 - Thailand relinquished its claims to sovereignty over Kedah ,Kelantan , Perlis and Terengganu

Article 1
The Siamese government transfers to the British government all rights of suzerainty, protection, administration and control whatsoever which they possess over the states of Kelantan, Tringganu, Kedah, Perlis, and adjacent islands. The frontiers of these territories are defined by the boundary protocol annexed hereto.


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how lah this topkek fella can become professor?
JimbeamofNRT
post Nov 1 2021, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Nov 1 2021, 08:39 AM)
that's poor logic, of course you'd look at materials from other countries to contrast local materials. you cant say 'why didnt the british consult siam on penang?' when they did talk to siam years later on the entirety of kedah.

the best he could say is that kedah was a sovereign kingdom that was a vassal of siam, and argue the significance of tribute. tribute can be a recognition of the other's sovereignty over you, simply protection money, or in the unique system of china, a form of government trade (chinese emperor re-gifted more than what they receive, so kingdoms sent tributes often because its profitable).
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best thing is, british dem smart to play on both side

kedah blockade 1838 - arms, ammunition and other stuff were smuggled by British merchants in Penang to the Kedah Sultan's army
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post Nov 1 2021, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Nov 1 2021, 09:55 AM)
As per the treaty said, "Acknowledged Siamese claims".

This was done without representation of the 5 Malay states.

British need only a guarantee for their expension without interference from Siam. They are not really interested in the legallity of it, whether it exist of not.
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btw Sultan Ahmad Tajuddin, Sultan Kedah during that time was in exile @ Penang when it happened. he fleed during the 1821 war and was eventually restored to the Kedah Sultanate in 1842 under Siamese suzerainty


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post Nov 1 2021, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 1 2021, 11:38 AM)
Fact is if the British did not forced Siam to ceded Perlis, Kedah, Kelantan & Terenganu to British, those territory will faced the same fate as Satun, Narathiwat & Pattani.
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