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 Any Sourdough parent here?, Sourdough starter not active enough

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post Nov 5 2021, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 3 2021, 08:52 PM)
i suggest you start with something easy like 65-67% hydration... I assume you are going the autolyse, stretch n fold method... your main objective is learn to develop the gluten and proof it ~50% before you shape, retard and bake

problem is different flour has different moisture content... so it's not a hard n fast rule what % to use... also experience in understanding the dough and how to manage it is important in the final hydration one is comfortable with

example the mrs can manage up to around 70%... whilst I can go 75%... but in reality even at 65% one can get open crumb holey bread... wink.gif   anyways, short answer is 70-72% is our foolproof hydration, using prima supreme bread flour...
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Used 65% hydration. Did the extended autolyse (because went for a longer breakfast), stretch and folded for multiple hours. Split the dough to 2 small loaves and shaping it was a mess, I guess need more practise. Couldnt make nice round shape, I moved and used the bench scraper too weirdly.

I was curious the difference after proofing overnight, so i baked one since I have two small loaves, I used air fryer for this. It turned out oddly shaped, I'm not expecting much from it. Cross section wasnt too bad. But the bread texture seems to be too chewy, rough and tasted tangy.

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post Nov 5 2021, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(LaylaLee @ Nov 5 2021, 08:37 PM)
Used 65% hydration. Did the extended autolyse (because went for a longer breakfast), stretch and folded for multiple hours. Split the dough to 2 small loaves and shaping it was a mess, I guess need more practise. Couldnt make nice round shape, I moved and used the bench scraper too weirdly.

I was curious the difference after proofing overnight, so i baked one since I have two small loaves, I used air fryer for this. It turned out oddly shaped, I'm not expecting much from it. Cross section wasnt too bad. But the bread texture seems to be too chewy, rough and tasted tangy.

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congrats!

it looks much better than my first wink.gif crumb looks very good... looking forward to your 2nd loaf...

quite a brown bread... what flour did u use?
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post Nov 5 2021, 09:36 PM

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spam... for inspirations... lol...

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post Nov 5 2021, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 5 2021, 09:33 PM)
congrats!

it looks much better than my first wink.gif  crumb looks very good... looking forward to your 2nd loaf...

quite a brown bread... what flour did u use?
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Used 80% AP flour, 10% wheat flour and 10% dark rye flour with 20% sourdough starter. The starter is also rye based. I think i used too much starter and the bread tasted very tangy. I will sift the flour next time as the texture of the bread is a bit rough too.

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post Nov 5 2021, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(LaylaLee @ Nov 5 2021, 09:56 PM)
Used 80% AP flour, 10% wheat flour and 10% dark rye flour with 20% sourdough starter. The starter is also rye based. I think i used too much starter and the bread tasted very tangy. I will sift the flour next time as the texture of the bread is a bit rough too.
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whole wheat and rye can be gritty... so it's natural... it also depends on the brand/miller how fine it's milled
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post Nov 14 2021, 08:34 PM

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this weekend bake... no motivation for scoring...

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post Nov 29 2021, 10:30 AM

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weekend mrs baked these beauties...

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post Dec 4 2021, 02:20 PM

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failed SD baguette... no ears not holey enough... cry.gif
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post Jul 14 2022, 12:28 AM

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Recent sourdough bake. 73% hydration, 65% bread flour, 20% spelt and 15% wholemeal

Goddamn she's a beauty.

Just sharing some tips I learned along the way to mastering sourdough

1. If you're chasing great oven spring and ear, not necessarily you have to go up to 80% hydration. Not all bread flour can absorb so much water. Too much water may compromise the gluten structure

2. include the starter into your calculation and Aim for 72-73% hydration. If your bread flour can absorb a lot of water then you can up if.

These are the two main ones I can think of at the moment. Got other factors too, will share some other time

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post Aug 20 2022, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 30 2021, 04:47 PM)
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meet irek & kiwi... rye & wholemeal resp... started from bread flour nothing fancy...

they grow 2-3x when fed... now sleeping...
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Wow didn't know you bake.
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post Aug 21 2022, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 20 2022, 02:04 PM)
Wow didn't know you bake.
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