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 PAS mahu iktiraf kerajaan Taliban

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post Oct 27 2021, 03:59 AM

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Einjahr
post Oct 27 2021, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 27 2021, 01:42 AM)
Why did that happen the last time again? Because no one gave them mainstream recognition.

Extremist vs mainstream, just a matter of how West labels you
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bullshit lol

Even in SEA, radicals openly ADMIRE the Taliban. You think theres only one kind of hardline interpretation? what abt Abu Sayaff? Jemaah Islamiyah? u wanna giv them support also using the same reeason? u wanna cheer them on?

deswai u stupid fuk
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post Oct 27 2021, 07:10 AM

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joestar also become lebai

yesterday prc trooper

today taliban supporker

tommorow become lebai
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post Oct 27 2021, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Oct 27 2021, 07:08 AM)
bullshit lol

Even in SEA, radicals openly ADMIRE the Taliban. You think theres only one kind of hardline interpretation? what abt Abu Sayaff? Jemaah Islamiyah?  u wanna giv them support also using the same reeason? u wanna cheer them on?

deswai u stupid fuk
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You can't get it in your thick head do you? See word Taliban only all your sense of logic or pragmatism go out the window. Like it or not they are the one that have support and control in Afghanistan at the moment. They are the one that can bring some semblance of stability to the region via their government. Your beloved West already tried carpet bombs, MOABs and money without success, it will get nowhere.
So far taliban are the ones controlling and fighting the extremists there, like ISIS K and TTP. There's a reason why no country in the world declares afghan Taliban as a terror organization.
So please use your brain not just take a word as bogeyman but actually consider the loca situation before barking like a dog.

Oh and one last point, if the majority want extremist views wy are you rejecting their choice? I thought that's the core principle of your democratic ideology, whatever majority says goes laugh.gif
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post Oct 27 2021, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 27 2021, 07:43 AM)
You can't get it in your thick head do you? See word Taliban only all your sense of logic or pragmatism go out the window. Like it or not they are the one that have support and control in Afghanistan at the moment. They are the one that can bring some semblance of stability to the region via their government. Your beloved West already tried carpet bombs, MOABs and money without success, it will get nowhere.
So far taliban are the ones controlling and fighting the extremists there, like ISIS K and TTP. There's a reason why no country in the world declares afghan Taliban as a terror organization.
So please use your brain not just take a word as bogeyman but actually consider the loca situation before barking like a dog.

Oh and one last point, if the majority want extremist views wy are you rejecting their choice? I thought that's the core principle of your democratic ideology, whatever majority says goes laugh.gif
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Taliban is extremist ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
ask militant extremist Islamic terror cells did their training? Afghanistan is among the top spots. From Chechen rebels, Abusayaf and jemaah islamiyah..

u outsider deswai from ur posts, can see how extremely naive you are.

The end goal of hardline Islamic fanatics and radicals is to setup their own style of world govt based on hardline interpretation.

Caliphate dont mean anything to you?

bodoh

among taliban lovers is PAS

NOT EXTREMIST?

grow a beard, hoe

This post has been edited by Einjahr: Oct 27 2021, 09:24 AM
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post Oct 27 2021, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Oct 27 2021, 09:23 AM)
Taliban is extremist ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
ask militant extremist Islamic  terror cells did their training? Afghanistan is among the top spots. From Chechen rebels, Abusayaf and jemaah islamiyah..

u outsider deswai from ur posts, can see how extremely naive you are.

The end goal of hardline Islamic fanatics and radicals is to setup their own style of world govt based on hardline interpretation.

Caliphate dont mean anything to you?

bodoh

among taliban lovers is PAS

NOT EXTREMIST?

grow a beard, hoe
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Your still stuck in the 1990s is it? Hello it isn't Sept 11 anymore. 20 years passed already. Now is a whole diff ball game which people like you cannot understand that's why your frothing at the mouth about it.

Again I ask you, if the majority of the people want it, why are you refusing to honour and respect their opinion. Isn't that the core tenet under your definition of democracy?
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post Oct 27 2021, 10:09 AM

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jom melancu......ng ke taliban
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 27 2021, 09:48 AM)
Your still stuck in the 1990s is it? Hello it isn't Sept 11 anymore. 20 years passed already. Now is a whole diff ball game which people like you cannot understand that's why your frothing at the mouth about it.

Again I ask you, if the majority of the people want it, why are you refusing to honour and respect their opinion. Isn't that the core tenet under your definition of democracy?
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seizing a country with force and guns and bombing their way to govt..

reflects will of majority? owait lets call it popular revolt
armed revolution is civilised behavior? banning everything till become cave dwellers?

if the majority demands it, can they start bombing foreigners and kidnapping them for ransom money? its all invalid the moment u deny other ppl the same basic rights.






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post Oct 27 2021, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 27 2021, 09:48 AM)
Your still stuck in the 1990s is it? Hello it isn't Sept 11 anymore. 20 years passed already. Now is a whole diff ball game which people like you cannot understand that's why your frothing at the mouth about it.

Again I ask you, if the majority of the people want it, why are you refusing to honour and respect their opinion. Isn't that the core tenet under your definition of democracy?
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So where do you see yourself in this neo Caliphate?

a dhimmi who hv to pay taxes for being non muslim? non muslim tax

ever heard of that?

u fukken know nothing abt hardline interpretation of Islam

This post has been edited by Einjahr: Oct 27 2021, 11:25 AM
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:26 AM

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Iktiraf la.. now can import poppy from taliban
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:32 AM

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Pls send the whole troop of PUAS to Afghanistan to show suppork
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Oct 27 2021, 11:22 AM)
seizing a country with force and guns and bombing their way to govt..

reflects will of majority?  owait  lets call it popular revolt
armed revolution is civilised behavior? banning everything till become cave dwellers?

if the majority demands it, can they start bombing foreigners and kidnapping them for ransom money?  its all invalid the moment u deny other ppl the same basic rights.
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Again even analysing things th slightest would show you the reality. 20 years of money, development and carpet bombing couldn't weed out the Taliban? You think they eat sand and get weapons fall from the sky? No they are supported by afghans in the country, not outside. If the afghan people loved democracy and Western human rights so much, why did they give it up so easily not even a week after US left?

People like you live in don't know what fantasy world where West ideology and rights beat everything and always correct. Hint it's not.

Eh you love calling people hypocrite, weren't you the one raring to deny citizens their right to return invoking this same "majority said so" quote?
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 27 2021, 11:34 AM)
Again even analysing things th slightest would show you the reality. 20 years of money, development and carpet bombing couldn't weed out the Taliban? You think they eat sand and get weapons fall from the sky? No they are supported by afghans in the country, not outside. If the afghan people loved democracy and Western human rights so much, why did they give it up so easily not even a week after US left?

People like you live in don't know what fantasy world where West ideology and rights beat everything and always correct. Hint it's not.

Eh you love calling people hypocrite, weren't you the one raring to deny citizens their right to return invoking this same "majority said so" quote?
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freedom hater like you will gravitate to extreme ideologies, no surprise there. When you wanna apply for PAS membership?
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:41 AM

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Armed insurrection = will of majority

loled

You wanna say anything when you're staring at the barrel of a gun?
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Oct 27 2021, 11:41 AM)
Armed insurrection = will of majority

loled

You wanna say anything when you're staring at the barrel of a gun?
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Afghan fought soviets, US even among themselves

Why are they not fighting Taliban now?

Think about it
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 27 2021, 11:42 AM)
Afghan fought soviets, US even among themselves

Why are they not fighting Taliban now?

Think about it
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US created the Taliban to fight Soviet

lol u sure you know your history?
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Oct 27 2021, 11:43 AM)
US created the Taliban to fight Soviet

lol u sure you know your history?
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US did not create the Taliban. It was setup by the ISI and still maintains close links with Pakistan's army

it's you who have no idea about history
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post Oct 27 2021, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 27 2021, 11:45 AM)
US did not create the Taliban. It was setup by the ISI and still maintains close links with Pakistan's army

it's you who have no idea about history
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The United States viewed the conflict in Afghanistan as an integral Cold War struggle, and the CIA provided assistance to anti-Soviet mujahideen rebels through the Pakistani intelligence services in a program called Operation Cyclone.


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Although U.S. President Jimmy Carterโ€™s focus was more on Iran during the months before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, he initiated a covert program through the CIA to financially support the Afghan rebels, the mujahideen, in July 1979.
After the Soviet invasion in December 1979, which was a surprise to Carter, the CIA expanded the program, code-named Operation Cyclone, and began providing weapons along with money to the mujahideen through the Pakistani intelligence services.
Operation Cyclone was one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations ever undertaken. More than $20 billion in U.S. funds was funneled into the country to train and arm Afghan resistance groups.
The U.S.-built Stinger antiaircraft missile, supplied to the mujahideen in very large numbers beginning in 1986, struck a decisive blow to the Soviets.
The Stingers were so renowned and deadly that in the 1990s, the United States conducted a โ€œbuy-backโ€ program to keep unused missiles from falling into the hands of anti-American terrorists, an effort which was covertly renewed in the early 2000s.


I know lah you hate USA with all your heart, but no need to rewrite history kot?
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post Oct 27 2021, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Oct 27 2021, 11:52 AM)
I know lah  you hate USA with all your heart, but no need to rewrite history kot?
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Again, you just paint everyone with a broad brush don't you? Any guerilla in Afghanistan must be Taliban yea?

If you can't differentiate mujahideen also from Taliban then I know your just full of it

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