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genting casino police case wanted person, Resorts World Genting (RWG) malaysia
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How they tipu?
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1st look familiar... Shud be regular
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>genting >tangkap cheating >talk about irony Baby1985 liked this post
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QUOTE(Duxia999 @ Oct 25 2021, 12:49 AM) Ask 707 bus boss faster and betterSince you are malacca person NUSANTARA 707 TRAVEL SERVICES SDN BHD Company Registration No. 0178095V Nature of Business TRAVEL AGENT AND TOUR OPERATIONS Date of Registration 21-01-1989 State MELAKA This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Oct 25 2021, 12:53 AM |
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 25 2021, 12:51 AM) Ask 707 bus boss faster and better 707 not nice... Humid bus.. Wan muntahSince you are malacca person NUSANTARA 707 TRAVEL SERVICES SDN BHD Company Registration No. 0178095V Nature of Business TRAVEL AGENT AND TOUR OPERATIONS Date of Registration 21-01-1989 State MELAKA |
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How to tipu like this?
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I guess u need the dealer, manager to pakat outsiders to cheat
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Eh... Jan tweet sampai sekarang...
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Old kes belum tangkap kah. Some Maybe sudah mati
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The last one 80yrs old wtf
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casino are cheating the common people anyway, won't bat an eye if someone cheating the cheater ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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working for syndicate 1..
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How they pakat?? Not like the dealer can change cards. Or just higher probability giving good hands?
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QUOTE(drug5 @ Oct 25 2021, 06:21 AM) How they pakat?? Not like the dealer can change cards. Or just higher probability giving good hands? Most common is pay more than what actual winnings is when captain not looking. This kind of fraud cannot last very long because sooner or later the camera will pick up - once you are suspected, they view all the old recordings when the suspected dealer was working and see if there has been any previous occasions where it may have happened before. Unless dealer wants to do a big and run in the super-premium area and then quit the job, defrauding the casino is a no go. Eventually if you do it long enough, you will be caught out. I have seen in Star City (Sydney) casino where there was a bet of A$8,000 (on Banker in public area) and Banker lost the bet but bet was paid. Both gambler and croupier were PRC. There was no supervisors around when bet was paid. Everyone looking just kept quiet This post has been edited by Garysydney: Oct 25 2021, 06:59 AM |
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QUOTE(drug5 @ Oct 25 2021, 06:21 AM) How they pakat?? Not like the dealer can change cards. Or just higher probability giving good hands? From the report, it says roulette. Roulette quite easy to collude with players. Just don’t take the losing bet or overpay a winning bet. Quite easy to pull off especially if you’re in a busy table but can’t cheat the eye in the sky. |
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can report against genting for tipu-ing us also since always kalah bugipunch liked this post
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QUOTE(TryingToSurvive @ Oct 25 2021, 10:54 AM) Roulette can tipu the ball not easy anymore lah but need more practise more than ever.If you pakat with the dealer d, just keep their the ball at the same area Roulette longkang have been widen so that when croupier release the ball, it will actually vibrate when release...aka unstable. That why now you see frequent ball fly out whenever croupier try to latch correctly the ball on the same area. |
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 25 2021, 04:50 PM) not easy anymore lah but need more practise more than ever. You means now roulette cannot be play by dealer???Roulette longkang have been widen so that when croupier release the ball, it will actually vibrate when release...aka unstable. That why now you see frequent ball fly out whenever croupier try to latch correctly the ball on the same area. I heard sone dealer can roughly control the ball to some specific location Hand power and experience |
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holee sheet that 1939 unker stay at home play with grandchildren la weih, so hardworking go all the way to genting
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 26 2021, 07:52 PM) You means now roulette cannot be play by dealer??? yes...hard to play and control to specific location on new roulette.I heard sone dealer can roughly control the ball to some specific location Hand power and experience why i know because my VietMoi is roulette table who throw the balls lo. That was just before pre Covid.... |
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 26 2021, 07:59 PM) yes...hard to play and control to specific location on new roulette. Means since 2019 genting already korek roulette ball railway bigger???why i know because my VietMoi is roulette table who throw the balls lo. That was just before pre Covid.... Any other changes to table games? |
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 26 2021, 09:28 PM) Means since 2019 genting already korek roulette ball railway bigger??? yes...new roulette ball railway replacing the old roulette table.Any other changes to table games? my Vietmoi complain not easy to release the ball smoothly despite many time training on it . Old roulette wheel...sup sup water for her. |
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 26 2021, 10:43 PM) yes....usually in order to be able to release to specific location everytime......old small railway can be easily release accurately as the balls and the old railway is ngam ngam matching in size.The new roulette...railway become wider a bit...so everytime release on so call spot to target to specific location....the balls when release will woobly effect thus either the balls jump out or mostly miss their specific intended location mos t of the time. |
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 26 2021, 10:49 PM) yes....usually in order to be able to release to specific location everytime......old small railway can be easily release accurately as the balls and the old railway is ngam ngam matching in size. So now let said many customer on her table,she cannot let the ball go to 0 already ,correct???The new roulette...railway become wider a bit...so everytime release on so call spot to target to specific location....the balls when release will woobly effect thus either the balls jump out or mostly miss their specific intended location mos t of the time. Last time many croupier do like that |
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 26 2021, 10:52 PM) So now let said many customer on her table,she cannot let the ball go to 0 already ,correct??? why need to let customer lose wor?Last time many croupier do like that it is more beneficial to "pakat" with customer so that can get extra income lah. widening the railway is so that croupier cannot "pakat" with customer lah. tell me which insane croupier want to make customer lose money....in the end....will croupier get better better bonuses? |
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eh how the hell they tipu?
someone teach me. the croupier super god hands forever can spin and make it land in correct place ka? |
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 26 2021, 11:19 PM) why need to let customer lose wor? All croupier want customer lose money because if customer win more job to calculate payment. it is more beneficial to "pakat" with customer so that can get extra income lah. widening the railway is so that croupier cannot "pakat" with customer lah. tell me which insane croupier want to make customer lose money....in the end....will croupier get better better bonuses? Unless pakat then different story your vietmoi never tell you when they pakat, they usually use the green zero as reference point for ball to drop? so people usually buy section around zero. ts asking ball drop zero but he doesnt mean croupier want customer lose money. This post has been edited by hc7840: Oct 27 2021, 12:57 AM |
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They can tipu chips, but how to tipu roulette since the numbers ball hit are random.
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Lemme guess, cause they always win ?
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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Oct 27 2021, 12:42 AM) All croupier want customer lose money because if customer win more job to calculate payment. my vietmoi no need ball to drop around Zero lah.Unless pakat then different story your vietmoi never tell you when they pakat, they usually use the green zero as reference point for ball to drop? so people usually buy section around zero. ts asking ball drop zero but he doesnt mean croupier want customer lose money. She can drop roughly, usually to customer favourite number lo. She sometime take pity on Uncle's who keep betting on his "ONG" number repeatably. and the Uncle in the end will find her later on to pass some "Ong" angpow lo. She usually tell Uncle don't lah all in like possesed person who always think....next round will kena one. |
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The dealer can pakat in roulette. Experienced dealer can get the result they wanted
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 27 2021, 07:00 AM) my vietmoi no need ball to drop around Zero lah. Genting all near casino have cctvShe can drop roughly, usually to customer favourite number lo. She sometime take pity on Uncle's who keep betting on his "ONG" number repeatably. and the Uncle in the end will find her later on to pass some "Ong" angpow lo. She usually tell Uncle don't lah all in like possesed person who always think....next round will kena one. How to pass angpao by hand or give cash? If use e banking then i think more safe... |
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 25 2021, 06:58 AM) Most common is pay more than what actual winnings is when captain not looking. pray they don't cheat on the wrong casino...This kind of fraud cannot last very long because sooner or later the camera will pick up - once you are suspected, they view all the old recordings when the suspected dealer was working and see if there has been any previous occasions where it may have happened before. Unless dealer wants to do a big and run in the super-premium area and then quit the job, defrauding the casino is a no go. Eventually if you do it long enough, you will be caught out. I have seen in Star City (Sydney) casino where there was a bet of A$8,000 (on Banker in public area) and Banker lost the bet but bet was paid. Both gambler and croupier were PRC. There was no supervisors around when bet was paid. Everyone looking just kept quiet "in the end, they're all greedy" |
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Oct 27 2021, 01:25 PM) Yes - in the seventies and eighties, croupier used to see the bottom card to see if it was a picture card (with Ace on top) but the rules for blackjack changed as croupiers were giving signal to gamblers (to indicate whether bottom card was a picture card) so gamblers know whether to buy insurance or not (insurance for blackjack). In the mid to late 80s, blackjack rules change so croupiers cannot peek at the bottom card. Casinos are very good at picking up fraud. You may be able to cheat them once or twice but if you do it often enough, you definitely will be caught.There were croupiers who used to try to con uncle boomer here before telling me that they can spin the ball (in roulette) into a certain sector. Uncle boomer here is very street-smart |
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i love so many does believe experience roulette dealer know where that ball fall .....
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 27 2021, 01:53 PM) Yes - in the seventies and eighties, croupier used to see the bottom card to see if it was a picture card (with Ace on top) but the rules for blackjack changed as croupiers were giving signal to gamblers (to indicate whether bottom card was a picture card) so gamblers know whether to buy insurance or not (insurance for blackjack). In the mid to late 80s, blackjack rules change so croupiers cannot peek at the bottom card. Casinos are very good at picking up fraud. You may be able to cheat them once or twice but if you do it often enough, you definitely will be caught. Means now only the second card of dealer on blackjack game is draw after all player is satisfied their card?There were croupiers who used to try to con uncle boomer here before telling me that they can spin the ball (in roulette) into a certain sector. Uncle boomer here is very street-smart In before not like that??? |
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 27 2021, 06:16 PM) Thats why genting always change the croupier on roulette area u know why always swap places, table and bla bla ?Normally the person cannot always at there QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 27 2021, 06:16 PM) why not ? u think they can do as what they claim ? |
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QUOTE(lonely66 @ Oct 27 2021, 06:35 PM) actually many croupier can do this, my friend always wait for the croupier give signal .... hahahahhaa this is what i laugh. once confirm, then i just follow him If gambler win 30% go to dealer, but gambler lose dealer pay nothing. if i'm new dealer i also said can la, 30% extra income by doing nothing n tons of idiot will believe him. why not ? Garysydney liked this post
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QUOTE(X1X1 @ Oct 27 2021, 06:39 PM) hahahahhaa this is what i laugh. actually sure win one, normally when new croupier come in, they will see n look for 'partner' ....If gambler win 30% go to dealer, but gambler lose dealer pay nothing. if i'm new dealer i also said can la, 30% extra income by doing nothing n tons of idiot will believe him. why not ? something like they will smile at u n give u some 'tips', let say they point at the certain number .... then u also must be alert n give them hint, like say if kena they u belanja them n try to make friend n 'bincang' with them ... but now u cannot win too much, maybe less than 10k cos many cctv are watching u n they will change croupier very fast .... This post has been edited by lonely66: Oct 27 2021, 06:50 PM |
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Oct 27 2021, 06:51 PM
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Oct 27 2021, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(lonely66 @ Oct 27 2021, 06:49 PM) actually sure win one, normally when new croupier come in, they will see n look for 'partner' .... Why old one cannot?something like they will smile at u n give u some 'tips', let say they point at the certain number .... then u also must be alert n give them hint, like say if kena they u belanja them n try to make friend n 'bincang' with them ... but now u cannot win too much, maybe less than 10k cos many cctv are watching u n they will change croupier very fast .... |
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Oct 27 2021, 06:57 PM
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Oct 27 2021, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 27 2021, 06:13 PM) Means now only the second card of dealer on blackjack game is draw after all player is satisfied their card? Blackjack before is unlike today. Today casino only show one card (blackjack) and punters all pull the cards until they are satisfied. Before in the 70s/80s, casino will draw two cards (one face up and the other face down and if open card is Ace, croupier will look at covered card to see if it is a picture. Having croupier see the face-down card is a huge risk for the casino as the croupier can signal to the punters whether the closed card is a picture or not. Casinos get smarter as time progresses so they changed blackjack to how it is now - no more croupier peeking at cards. In before not like that??? In the 70s/80s casinos used less decks of cards and once again, card counters were having an advantage in that they were counting how many 'big cards' were out and slowly casinos progressed using 6 to 8 decks for most of their games. This post has been edited by Garysydney: Oct 27 2021, 07:14 PM |
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Oct 27 2021, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 27 2021, 07:13 PM) Blackjack before is unlike today. Today casino only show one card (blackjack) and punters all pull the cards until they are satisfied. Before in the 70s/80s, casino will draw two cards (one face up and the other face down and if open card is Ace, croupier will look at covered card to see if it is a picture. Having croupier see the face-down card is a huge risk for the casino as the croupier can signal to the punters whether the closed card is a picture or not. Casinos get smarter as time progresses so they changed blackjack to how it is now - no more croupier peeking at cards. Means at 70s/80s, customer can know from croupier to buy insurance or surrender early???In the 70s/80s casinos used less decks of cards and once again, card counters were having an advantage in that they were counting how many 'big cards' were out and slowly casinos progressed using 6 to 8 decks for most of their games. Now blackjack use 6 decks or 8 decks card,the blackjack strategy table still useful? |
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Oct 27 2021, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 27 2021, 08:02 PM) Means at 70s/80s, customer can know from croupier to buy insurance or surrender early??? Yes - in 70s/80s, croupier can give signal to punters whether to buy insurance or not after he has a peek at the bottom card. You cannot surrender with an Ace open card. The casino has no way of stopping croupier from giving signals in those early days so blackjack slowly progressed to the system we have now (with only one card open). Now blackjack use 6 decks or 8 decks card,the blackjack strategy table still useful? I remembered a lot of underground casinos that offer 1-pack blackjack in the late 70s close shop because punters were counting all the big cards so slowly these casinos progressed to 2 and then 4 decks - nowadays with 6 or 8 deck cards, it is impossible to have an advantage using the counting strategy. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Oct 28 2021, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(lonely66 @ Oct 27 2021, 06:49 PM) actually sure win one, normally when new croupier come in, they will see n look for 'partner' .... something like they will smile at u n give u some 'tips', let say they point at the certain number .... then u also must be alert n give them hint, like say if kena they u belanja them n try to make friend n 'bincang' with them ... but now u cannot win too much, maybe less than 10k cos many cctv are watching u n they will change croupier very fast .... |
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Oct 28 2021, 09:53 AM
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Oct 28 2021, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 27 2021, 09:30 PM) Yes - in 70s/80s, croupier can give signal to punters whether to buy insurance or not after he has a peek at the bottom card. You cannot surrender with an Ace open card. The casino has no way of stopping croupier from giving signals in those early days so blackjack slowly progressed to the system we have now (with only one card open). Why 6 or 8 decks card,no more counting advantage??I remembered a lot of underground casinos that offer 1-pack blackjack in the late 70s close shop because punters were counting all the big cards so slowly these casinos progressed to 2 and then 4 decks - nowadays with 6 or 8 deck cards, it is impossible to have an advantage using the counting strategy. |
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Oct 28 2021, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 28 2021, 12:38 PM) The casino wants cards to be as random as possible (that is no biased towards either more big cards vs small cards). Say at the beginning of the shoe (that is after say 5 hands there is a heavy bias in favour of big cards). Say after each hand, an average of 4 cards per player and there are 8 players (including croupier as a player and 7 punters), there is an average of 8x4=32 cards per hand (assuming all 7 boxes are occupied and no burn cards). Now after 5 hands, the number of cards already dished out is 5x32=160 (assuming no burn cards). Now if there are 8 decks of card, there are 8x52= 416 altogether. There is still 416-160=256 in the shoe (assume all 8 decks are in the shoe). Now with 256 cards still left in the shoe and with a heavy bias in favour of big cards this bias will not be very obvious as there are still 256 cards left in the shoe. This is why casinos are resorting to more decks or having cards re-shuffled after a few hands. By increasing the number of decks or reshuffling cards, this reduces the advantage of a strong bias of big cards.Hope you understand what i am trying to explain here. This post has been edited by Garysydney: Oct 28 2021, 02:02 PM |
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Dec 22 2021, 05:25 PM
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Casino can cheat gambler but gambler kenot cheat casino?
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