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post Oct 30 2022, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ultimate Warrior @ Oct 30 2022, 06:07 PM)
Hi, just wanted Fund management for Forex investment. No time to manage. Like previous thread say long term or short term investment.

Been doing many long term investment but short term investment never try before so wanted to try out some.

Stock already done invest.
Mutual also done invest.
FD also done invest.
Forex wanting to invest some but see this thread previously so many say is scam so worry.
(Some friend ask me to invest in TFXI such as EOB, Takami which I also don’t understand.) but thread got so many others FM name 😅.

So many invest some in TFXi and Avatrade since both had FM doing it.

Since my friend have been investing since last December and nothing since to happen. So they why want to know what Forex work.

Investment is risk but make sure is the risk is self make decisions and not scam by someone can already. 😊
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If you wanted,
"Fund management for Forex investment. No time to manage.".... I believes that would be under tfxi.

Since you got friends that had invested since last Dec, thus you can ask him how to join it.
FYI, there had been postings here that nothing bad happened with it years longer than your friends 10 months track records.

On this, "Investment is risk but make sure is the risk is self make decisions and not scam by someone can already. "
...hope you are lucky enough. God bless, good luck in your decision.


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post Oct 30 2022, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 30 2022, 04:32 PM)
Yes. But just to highlight that not just specifically "Forex Investing", any investments also must have the same awareness/cautiousness. Shouldn't be bias into a certain instrument. Many invested in stock market early this year & lost, same goes to crypto. So all instrument poses the same amount of risk. Just when it comes to breaking down the instrument, will be the one I elaborated to him previous comments.
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Like Top glove Rm25 dropped to Rm0.8 . Crypto drooped 70-90% . Luna whipped off . All investments will have risk . Bitcoin was deemed a scam in 2011 . If you u have invested usd1000, at its peak, it’s worth usd69m🥶🥶🥶. Today , it’s worth usd20m .Depending on your entry point, every investment definitely has risk . So it’s a question of Risk Vs Reward
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post Oct 30 2022, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 30 2022, 12:45 PM)
1. Depends. Mostly have copy-trading with AUM style but without MLM structure.

2. Broker licensing does play a certain reputation/integrity of the broker.
If Broker A have Tier 3 License, they're consider Tier 3 broker. If Broker B have Tier 1, Tier 2 & Tier 3 License, they're consider Tier 1 Broker as well.
It's not easy to get Tier 1 to 2 Licenses. (FCA, BaFin, CySEC, ASIC etc). If a broker has that, eventhough they have other tier licenses, the broker is considered as a good broker as well.

3. Pepperstone - Only solely for retail traders. No copy-trade, no fund management, just pure retail.
AvaTrade - Have Copy-Trade, Fund Management, Retail. But their Fund Management MLM is just until 3-5 Compressive levels & commission mainly based on Lot Rebates. They do have Profit Sharing from Downlines as well.
TFXI - Retail, Copy-Trading, Fund Management. TFXI focus heavily + specializes more on Fund Management due to on-growing demand. TFXI Fund Management have Lot Rebates/Profit Sharing as well. Their MLM structure is up to 10-12 compressive levels (customizable by MIB during FM account application).

4. Question 4 is a question or a statement? Don't really get the sentence. Kindly re-elaborate.

5. Past Performance is a thing, next we have to consider on
- Lot Sizes Open per trade (Whether its Fixed Lot Opened or Non-Fixed)
- Win/Lose Ratio
- Risk Reward Ratio
- Cut Loss per trade / Max Cut Loss in a fund
- Trading Pair & Instruments
- Trading Strategy (Martingale, Elliot, S&P, BBMA etc)
- Trading time-frame (Swing/Intra-Day/Scalping)
- Human or EA (Expert Advisors) or Pure Robot Algorithmic Trading.

Each of the above have to take into consideration as different style have different risk.

6. Any investments, Stocks/Properties/Forex Funds/Mutual Funds/REITS etc etc can make money to curb inflation. The question should be, is it a long-term or short-term investment?

Long Term Investments
Stocks/Properties/ETFs/Mutual Funds are Long-Term investments. Long term investments poses lesser risk in fundamental aspect, but it still does pose risk of the time-frame or time-period during the investment. For example, if you're investing in Stocks/Properties, you're looking to go Long (price increase) for long term in order to profit. But the time taken for the price to increase vs the risk of market crash, recessions, depressions is there.
Many people say they're a risk taker & don't mind to take such "Short-Term Dip". But only 20% of the people will. The others will then leave the investment & say its a scam, non-profitable etc.

Short Term Investments
Short term investments are more of "Trading Investments" such as Crypto/Forex Trading/Options Trading/Futures Trading. They do not hold for long-term. Get in & out in an instant. Most short term investments involves CFDs (Contract For Differences) such as High Leverages, Short-Selling.

The application of short-selling really helps investors to gain profit *regardless of market trend*. Even when the trend falls, traders can open a short-selling position to profit from it. And vice-versa. Ofcourse with higher opportunities comes with higher risk. Short term investments have the chance to wipe your investments in an instant or gain 100% in half year to a year.

When it comes to Forex Fund Management like TFXI, it is in Short-Term Investment category. It doesn't mean TFXI last short-term, but I'm saying about the time-frame of the trade (get-in, get-out period). If a Fund Manager knows how to get-in/get-out for 10 years, then you may consider its a good investment due to high returns + long lasting.

Many people are not aware/understand the concept of Long Term Investments vs Short Term Trading Investments. Hence, barking all around at LowYat saying TFXI is Too Good to be true, Warren Buffet doesn't have that kind of profit, "I can loan bank a million and dump everything in" bullshits.

Hope that answers your question.
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Some pple like to quote Warren Buffet to compare with tfxi. But they doesn’t seems to realize that Berkshire Hathaway as a company has so much intangible value & their shares are worth so much. Grew by 20% pa since 1965. Can anything including forex perform so well & consistent for 47 freaking years 🥶🥶🥶
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post Oct 30 2022, 08:41 PM

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@Don Salvatore Have u heard TXFI launching crypto wallets to coup for wd issues. Do you know how it works?
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post Oct 30 2022, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(trailblazers_song @ Oct 30 2022, 07:55 PM)
Like Top glove Rm25 dropped  to Rm0.8 . Crypto drooped 70-90% . Luna whipped off . All investments will have risk . Bitcoin was deemed a scam in 2011 . If you u have invested usd1000, at its peak, it’s worth usd69m🥶🥶🥶. Today , it’s worth usd20m .Depending on your entry point, every investment definitely has risk . So it’s a question of Risk Vs Reward
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TopGlove is a real company. You know who is the CEO and their business, which is very real. Not a faceless company in some pirate island. Top Glove fall is inevitable if you understand the market, the pandemic and economy. But people who goes for scam money game always tries to make illogical justification their game is an "investment" in a similar fashion. Cringy as hell.

It's so typical of scammers to always use big name companies to compare as though they can actually be compared. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Topkek. Work so hard in this thread everyday post gazillion posts.

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post Oct 30 2022, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 30 2022, 08:50 PM)
TopGlove is a real company. You know who is the CEO and their business, which is very real. Not a faceless company in some pirate island. Top Glove fall is inevitable if you understand the market, the pandemic and economy. But people who goes for scam money game always tries to make illogical justification their game is an "investment" in a similar fashion. Cringy as hell.

It's so typical of scammers to always use big name companies to compare as though they can actually be compared.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Topkek. Work so hard in this thread everyday post gazillion posts.

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hmm.gif does the Top glove stock price fall due to the dividend issued too??

another note
even Bank rakyat that has alot lot less capital than Berkshire Hathaway can gives out >15% dividend pa for 20 years, thus even if Berkshire Hathaway grew by 20% pa is that alot?


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post Oct 30 2022, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(SKL @ Oct 30 2022, 08:41 PM)
@Don Salvatore Have u heard TXFI launching crypto wallets to coup for wd issues. Do you know how it works?
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No, but I am aware that TFXI is onto something for their withdrawal issues recently. Something good for investors perhaps. Won't post any false info here until it is official to prevent dogs from barking.

QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 30 2022, 08:50 PM)
TopGlove is a real company. You know who is the CEO and their business, which is very real. Not a faceless company in some pirate island. Top Glove fall is inevitable if you understand the market, the pandemic and economy. But people who goes for scam money game always tries to make illogical justification their game is an "investment" in a similar fashion. Cringy as hell.

It's so typical of scammers to always use big name companies to compare as though they can actually be compared.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Topkek. Work so hard in this thread everyday post gazillion posts.

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What @Trailblazers trying to say is that every investment has its risk. As a general term. Nothing to do with money-game, real company, fake company. He said not just TopGlove but Bitcoin back in 2011, people say its scam but it is at the top. Sometimes making money in investing is about entry & exit. Even in trading as well. Stop spilling your agenda of "scam, money game" when no one talks about it here.

@UltimateWarrior was asking the fundamental knowledge of investing. So don't bring the typical LowYat toxicity back here.
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QUOTE(SKL @ Oct 30 2022, 08:41 PM)
@Don Salvatore Have u heard TXFI launching crypto wallets to coup for wd issues. Do you know how it works?
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kaypoh answer, nothing official as yet ..........wait patiently for the official announcement.
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post Oct 30 2022, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 30 2022, 09:07 PM)
hmm.gif does the Top glove stock price fall due to the dividend issued too??

another note
even Bank rakyat that has alot lot less capital than Berkshire Hathaway can gives out >15% dividend pa for 20 years, thus even if Berkshire Hathaway grew by 20% pa is that alot?
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Some people say earning more than Warren Buffet = Too Good To Be True
Now Bank Rakyat gives almost same % as Berkshire Hathaway = Does it mean Bank Rakyat is almost Too Good To Be True? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 30 2022, 09:10 PM)
Some people say earning more than Warren Buffet = Too Good To Be True
Now Bank Rakyat gives almost same % as Berkshire Hathaway = Does it mean Bank Rakyat is almost Too Good To Be True?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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previously in stock section,...they tell of banks stock can be traded,...earned more than this bank rakyat one 15%
see how many % did PBB grow pa?

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post Oct 30 2022, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 30 2022, 09:15 PM)
previously in stock section,...they tell of banks stock can be traded,...earned more than this bank rakyat one 15%
see how many % did PBB grow pa?
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Don't compare PBB Mutual/Unit Trust with Bank Stock Trading.
I might be wrong do correct me if I am. What I know is that most PBB Mutual/Unit Trust investments goes into a certain asset class & leave it there for it to grow. In other words, going long on the investment. There is very less to no trading activity (go in & go out) for short-run.

Unlike bank stock trading, they have FMs that go in & out (trading activity). Hence generating profit higher. However, stock trading generally gives lesser profit/loss & lesser risk compared to Forex or Crypto due to lesser leverages.

All being said, we still haven't consider the part where the Bank Agents/Mutual Fund Agents override your investments even before it is traded/placed in the asset.
Eg: You Invest 10K, probably RM500 already taken as commission for the agents. Which makes you down about -5% even without commencing the investment.

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post Oct 30 2022, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 30 2022, 09:24 PM)
Don't compare PBB Mutual/Unit Trust with Bank Stock Trading.
I might be wrong do correct me if I am. What I know is that most PBB Mutual/Unit Trust investments goes into a certain asset class & leave it there for it to grow. In other words, going long on the investment. There is very less to no trading activity (go in & go out) for short-run.

Unlike bank stock trading, they have FMs that go in & out (trading activity). Hence generating profit higher. However, stock trading generally gives lesser profit/loss & lesser risk compared to Forex or Crypto due to lesser leverages.

All being said, we still haven't consider the part where the Bank Agents/Mutual Fund Agents override your investments even before it is traded/placed in the asset.
Eg: You Invest 10K, probably RM500 already taken as commission for the agents. Which makes you down about -5% even without commencing the investment.
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the PBB is not about comparing PBb mutual fund/unit trust fund.
PBB is stocks.

btw, don't you realised that 15% from Bank rakyat was actually indirectly a rebuke to this as posted?

Some pple like to quote Warren Buffet to compare with tfxi. But they doesn’t seems to realize that Berkshire Hathaway as a company has so much intangible value & their shares are worth so much. Grew by 20% pa since 1965. Can anything including forex perform so well & consistent for 47 freaking years"

so are comparing the TOP glove price fall from RM8 to 0.8 without considering the dividend received??

This post has been edited by T231H: Oct 30 2022, 09:33 PM
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post Oct 30 2022, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 30 2022, 08:50 PM)
TopGlove is a real company. You know who is the CEO and their business, which is very real. Not a faceless company in some pirate island. Top Glove fall is inevitable if you understand the market, the pandemic and economy. But people who goes for scam money game always tries to make illogical justification their game is an "investment" in a similar fashion. Cringy as hell.

It's so typical of scammers to always use big name companies to compare as though they can actually be compared.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Topkek. Work so hard in this thread everyday post gazillion posts.

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Ok Top glove not a scam . So it’s fine to lose 97% of your capital & be happy that you lose it in a legitimate co that some whales love to Goreng . Or Serba Dinamik , can fake accounts for years , goreng the price . Regulated by SC & can get away with it . No problem it’s a legit co . Bottom line for me it’s all about Risk Vs Reward

P/s - Top glove fall is inevitable if u understd the market ? Wow ..interesting… if we can understand the market so well,shouldnt have any problem to be a billionaire. I certainly don’t under the stock & forex market & crypto market at all, hence need to invest in forex managed funds 🤣🤣🤣 & let the Professionals do their work

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post Oct 30 2022, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 30 2022, 09:28 PM)
the PBB is not about comparing PBb mutual fund/unit trust fund.
PBB is stocks.

btw, don't you realised that 15% from Bank rakyat was actually indirectly a rebuke to this as posted?

Some pple like to quote Warren Buffet to compare with tfxi. But they doesn’t seems to realize that Berkshire Hathaway as a company has so much intangible value & their shares are worth so much. Grew by 20% pa since 1965. Can anything including forex perform so well & consistent for 47 freaking years"

so are comparing the TOP glove price fall from RM8 to 0.8 without considering the dividend received??
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Oh, my bad. Assuming the wrong things. But regards to your sentence:
"Can anything including forex perform so well & consistent for 47 freaking years"

My answer would be yes. Again, profiting from Forex vs profiting from Stocks/Shares are completely different.
But if you ask me whether can it be consistent for 47 years? I'm not sure.....

QUOTE(trailblazers_song @ Oct 30 2022, 10:03 PM)
Ok Top glove not a scam . So it’s fine to lose 97% of your capital & be happy that you lose it in a legitimate co that some whales  love to Goreng . Or Serba Dinamik , can fake accounts for years  , goreng the price . Regulated by SC & can get away with it . No problem it’s a legit co . Bottom line for me it’s all about Risk Vs Reward

P/s - Top glove fall is inevitable if u understd the market ? Wow ..interesting… if we can understand the market so well,shouldnt have any problem to be a billionaire. I certainly don’t under the stock & forex market & crypto market at all
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Ignore these people. They come here to spill nonsense again. They're the type of person who will laugh at us investing at TFXI earning 4-5 figures while they think themselves are "smart-investor" with -20% at their portfolio just because theirs are "regulated by SC".
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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Oct 30 2022, 10:09 PM)
Oh, my bad. Assuming the wrong things. But regards to your sentence:
"Can anything including forex perform so well & consistent for 47 freaking years"

My answer would be yes. Again, profiting from Forex vs profiting from Stocks/Shares are completely different.
But if you ask me whether can it be consistent for 47 years? I'm not sure.....
Ignore these people. They come here to spill nonsense again. They're the type of person who will laugh at us investing at TFXI earning 4-5 figures while they think themselves are "smart-investor" with -20% at their portfolio just because theirs are "regulated by SC".
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Oh I have quite a bit in stocks , crypto , UT, insurance , properties but where are my profits 😮😮😮. Why so much negative returns 😰😰😰

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QUOTE(trailblazers_song @ Oct 30 2022, 10:14 PM)
Oh I have quite a bit in stocks , crypto , UT, insurance , properties but where are my profits  😮😮😮. Why so much negative returns 😰😰😰
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Its ok bro. It's Long Term Investments. Just hodl it for 20-30 years. Oh, and "It's regulated. So if you're losing in regulated platform, its fine." rclxm9.gif
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Hi,

Mutual Fund performance is Low for this 2 years, that why had to diversify into Forex for short term.

Never had any problems experience in Forex.

Just in your opinions.
Any readings on how to select a FM?

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(Ultimate Warrior @ Oct 31 2022, 08:01 AM)
Hi,

Mutual Fund performance is Low for this 2 years, that why had to diversify into Forex for short term.

Never had any problems experience in Forex.

Just in your opinions.
Any readings on how to select a FM?

Thanks in advance.
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Good question on the FM selection

Just asking while waiting for responses..
Iif this investment had been shown to have 2-3 yrs consistent 70 -80% roi pa, before you joined and in that 2 yrs you joined, you are also getting 70-80% roi pa...

Will your short term turned into long term?
Will your temporarily investment turned into permanent?
Will your part of the small allocation into it turned into a najor allocation?
If by that time if you are at 50 yrs old, will you also take out part of Yr eof and invest to grow it faster n more?
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HI, uncle try to explain abit,

1. It is all about risk class, you can use the following structure,
1.1 potential to gain = potential to risk
1.2 Class A approx 3 - 5% potential gain, almost risk free e.g. EPF, MBSB FD promo, Bond fund, Money market UT, REIT
1.3. Class B approx 6 - 9% potential gain, but risk level = potential level, e.g Risk level 5 UT
1.4. Class C above 10+% potential gain, but, risk level is 10++++%, e.g TFX, buttcoin
1.5. Class D, weird gain:risk ratio, and special skills required to work product, e.g. DIY Forex trading, property investment

2. Asset allocation base on lifestage and risk tolerance and risk appetite
2.2 how many percent of money you should allocate into class A, B, C or D

3. You can't rush, you have to learn to master each class at a time, unless you have a fund manager to allocate for you.
3.1. Uncle recmd take 2 - 3 years time to understand class A, B and D

4. Many middle class ppl make the mistake of jumping into class C and D too fast and burn themselves
4.2. Class C is the riskiest because other ppl is holding your money, it is best that you put less than 5% into this segment
4.3. If e.g. 5% in class C works well, the return will be about 50%, that is as good as 10 slots in Class A (be thankful)
4.4. If class C fails at least, your class A and B can recover 5% in a year or 2

5. In the process of fulfilling step 3 and 4, the investor should invest in themselves in understanding the property market or FX market, so that he can be self reliant.
5.1. In the world of Class D, the scope is big, ranging from FX, options, Commodities, properties
5.2. Pls choose 1 that you would wish to master. Uncle chose FX, options and Commodities, but now want to leave FX to TFX so that uncle can focus on commodities
5.3. Property is the best, but now is very tough because the property market kena goreng untill so high now.

6. Realistically TFX is best treated as a Very high return Very high risk product.
6.1. Very high risk because it has the smell of a scam
6.2. But seems real because of their long history
6.3. Due to 6.1 and 6.2 it is super high risk and pls if you need to invest via TFX pls allocate (max) the ROI of Class A and B investment
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Uncle want to add, to the post above, there are other investment vehicles too e.g.

1. Dividend stock
2. Value investment stock
3. Buy a land
4. Buy a business
5. Alternative investment (e.g. invest in whisky and art or classic cars or antique)

The list is endless, you can qualify the vehicles base on the Classes to match your appetite.

That's all for now, hope this PSA works well for everyone

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