belajar universiti di Malaysia jauh lebih LAMA dari universiti luar negara.
Kalau Malaysia nak dapat ijazah sampai 5-6 tahun, di Singapura, Australia dan UK hanya 3-4 tahun.
Banyak subjek Mandatori yang tak beri impak kepada kerjaya Graduan kita. TITAS, subjek Falsafah, Hubungan Etnik, Etika dan Peradaban.
Jangan tambah beban kepada pelajar kita. Bantu mereka menjadi Graduan yang berkualiti.
WE MUST DO BETTER.

ya masuk kerja apa yg dibelajar kat uni almost all tak berguna.

topkek.

Titas damn top kek this subject. And the hidden subject biro whatever negara dunoo still got compulsory or not

Future edu minister

Pendidikan Moral is the most useless subject

Tak suka boleh sambung di luar negara.

They r the same elsewhere right?

He is making a false statement on the years .. but absolutely on point on those useless/meaningless modules

Basically, no matter where we go, we still have to clear a year or two for fundamental via, for example, A-levels before we can enroll for a degree

Okay now he's talking....

There is one subject, made compulsory.

It costs money with negligible impact. If you don't want to shorten the program then swap them for other more pracitcal based subjects if its a STEM degree or increase hours for core subjects so more emphasis can be made on fundamentals

Young graduates these days shit loads of challenges, some not present for ppl who graduated 20-30 years ago. Boomers should either help or stay out of the way

Pendidikan moral also useless. Still need to take out extra time to attend classes when i was in uni. wtfark

Those subjects like titas, ethics, if we no study how are we gonna learn cultures or other races and religion which is important to be tolerance and understand one another ?
But nvm la....don't think it matters since Malaysia asyik racing je kan

subject credit = RM

Got bola to list those useless subject or not?

if his side can win GE

all the subject useful for me

during college time,
pelajaran malaysia...= learn BM....
i like wtf...compulsory pulak..

TAR I see accounting quite ok

Principles of Accounting
Economics
Quantitative Studies
Principles of Management
IT Fundamentals and Applications
Financial Accounting
Management Accounting
Principles of Finance
Principles of Taxation
Information and IT Security
Decision Management
Financial Accounting Framework
Fundamentals of Auditing
Advanced Financial Accounting
Operations Management
Financial Management
Business & Corporate Law
Taxation
Business Strategy
Performance Management
Advanced Taxation
Auditing
Advanced Accounting Practice
Entrepreneurship
Enterprise Resource Planning
Practical Training
Corporate Reporting & Current Issues
Services Marketing
Integrated Mangement
Integrated Case Study
Public Sector Accounting
Accounting Theory & Practice


But

Compulsory Courses:

English for Tertiary Studies,
Academic English,
English for Career Preparation,
Tamadun Islam dan Asia,
Critical Thinking,
Hubungan Etnik,
Contemporary Malaysian Issues,
Bahasa Kebangsaan A

the more you force it, more racing you gonna see

Moral and sivik

End up rempit jugak

Titas memang pun useless subject
Brainwashing subject

This post has been edited by Rusty Nail: Oct 8 2021, 12:17 PM

if you fail it, you fail others too....topkek

It is hard. New party. But i hope they win something n stay in the game to represent the young voices n minds

he listed d in tiktok

You dislike tiktok ke?

bak kata pepatah orang kodiang: "Jack of all trades, master of none"

wth u need bahASA kebangsaan A. that means got B version as well?

Universities outside Malaysia also full of "useless" elective subjects. Why do they even need elective subjects in Uni also I can't brain.

damn useless right? our minister also not really got moral nia

Titas the only subject i took that the group projek got Assignment have to go out jalan2 for shooting video. Damn fun

English should be emphasized pre-university. What exactly are they reading before they finish their english courses?

Dei Saddiq bodo, trade school ada. Industry ready.

Huh? Need titas and ethics subject only know other's culture? U talk from your ass?

I just make friends with people to know their culture. Not through useless subjects

Wait, they need to take these subjects in one semester? I thought they can take it concurrently with other subjects?

Fitnah

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Compulsory Courses malaysia

English for Tertiary Studies,
Academic English,
English for Career Preparation,
Tamadun Islam dan Asia,
Critical Thinking,
Hubungan Etnik,
Contemporary Malaysian Issues,
Bahasa Kebangsaan A

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I see UK ok




BSc in Accounting and Finance
Page contents > Year 1 options list | Year 2 options list | Year 3 options list | Prerequisite Requirements and Mutually Exclusive Options | Footnotes
Programme Code: UBAF

Department: Accounting



Paper
Course number, title (unit value)
See note

LSE100 The LSE Course

Year 1

Paper 1

AC100 Elements of Accounting and Finance (1.0)

Paper 2

EC1A3 Microeconomics I (0.5) # and EC1B3 Macroeconomics I (0.5) #



OR



EC1A5 Microeconomics I (0.5) and EC1B5 Macroeconomics I (0.5) #

Papers 3 & 4

EITHER



Both of the following plus courses to the value of 1.0 unit from the Year 1 options list:



MA107 Quantitative Methods (Mathematics) (0.5) # and ST107 Quantitative Methods (Statistics) (0.5) #

Year 1 options list



OR

Both of the following:



MA100 Mathematical Methods (1.0) # and ST102 Elementary Statistical Theory (1.0) #

Year 2

Paper 5

AC200 Accounting Theory and Practice (1.0) #

Paper 6

FM212 Principles of Finance (1.0) # or



FM213 Principles of Finance (1.0) # A

Paper 7

EITHER



Courses to the value of 1.0 unit(s) from the following:



EC2A3 Microeconomics II (0.5) # 1 (not available 2021/22)



EC2B3 Macroeconomics II (0.5) # 2 (not available 2021/22)



EC2C3 Econometrics I (0.5) # (not available 2021/22)



OR



Courses to the value of 1.0 unit(s) from the following:



EC2A5 Microeconomics II (0.5) (not available 2021/22)



EC2B5 Macroeconomics II (0.5) (not available 2021/22)



EC2C3 Econometrics I (0.5) # (not available 2021/22)

Paper 8

Courses to the value of 1.0 unit from the following (if not already taken under Paper 7):

Year 2 options list

Year 3

Paper 9

AC331 Contemporary Issues in Financial Accounting (0.5) #



And either:



AC311 Results Accountability and Management Control for Strategy Implementation (0.5) # or



AC341 Corporate Governance, Risk Management and Financial Audit (0.5)

Paper 10

Courses to the value of 1.0 unit from the following (if not already taken under Paper 9):



AC311 Results Accountability and Management Control for Strategy Implementation (0.5) #



AC312 Performance Measurement, Strategy, and Uncertainty (0.5) #



AC332 Financial Statement Analysis and Valuation (0.5) #



AC341 Corporate Governance, Risk Management and Financial Audit (0.5)



AC342 Accounting, Corporate Responsibility and Sustainability (0.5) (not available 2021/22)

Paper 11

FM300 Corporate Finance, Investments and Financial Markets (1.0) #

Paper 12

Courses to the value of 1.0 unit from the following (if not already taken under Paper 9 or Paper 10):

Year 3 options list

Notes

LSE100 is a half unit taken by all students, running across Michaelmas and Lent Terms in the first year. The course provides one of the marks that is eligible to be included in the calculation of the First Year Average for purposes of classification.

Year 1 options list

This post has been edited by tikaram: Oct 8 2021, 12:23 PM

What fitnah? You've never been to university yourself?

I already show you local university vs overseas uk Compulsory cource

Replace with microsoft office/ programming or anything practical

malaysia education system has been shit since 1980s

our parents time were the best

their english is top notch, and if one can pass form 6 = best of the best

at that time, if you can get any As in SPM = really good students

now you get 10 or more As also no meaning d

our education is so shit now

Enroll into the university first, then you know

Website don't list all the useless elective courses.

.......pendidkan moral ada, tapi kes tipu, songlap, buang baby, curi makan, etc semakin manyak.

this wor. serious shit. we got problem

If no subjek yang tak berguna how to have jobs for "lecturers" yang tak berguna. Unemployment rate of useless bums will rise in Malaysia. BN/PN will lose votes if orang yang tak berguna are not fed buta.

So sorry la dik Syed, our pockets more important. You should have a good idea on how much we plunder the nation from the Pandora Papers. We need useless bums' votes for the plundering ya dik Syed, thank you for the suggestion, but no.

This post has been edited by kygt99: Oct 8 2021, 12:36 PM

Blame yourself and your school la, sampah uni sampah course must be

Elective is fine, u can pick and choose

But malaysia made useless subjects compulsory.

Who said? Its important for certain group here ok

this is one issue but he was right about those subject like titas being useless in job

another thing is currently those subject being mandatory still ppl racing everyday, obviously the problem is not solely in education... dun forget among those racers are "highly educated" politicians, eg Umno PuAS

That's exactly what I'm planning to send my son to. Our education sucks balls

Oh. I didn't know all those subject are compulsory.

If compulsory, then it is stupider then useless elective subjects.

Must pass BM baru all subject qualify to graduate.
Kek

Ada kursus 51% wajib

What about the people that never mix with other culture? How are we going to educate them?

See k for example, whenever we say Bumi they only think its about the Malay. They dont understand that Bumi refers to Sabahan/Sarawakian/Orang Asli.

Good for you.

Sad To hear that happened to you

Hubungan Etnik, Etika dan Peradaban useless. Politicians also never follow even graduated locally. Those overseas cannot blame

Huh? U think those who never bother to mingle will care about anything? Subjects is just for passing grade, after study will forget one.

I know more stuff on chinese culture than I ever learn in any uni subjects.

We talk about "Compulsory courcse", syed saddiq talk about compulsory why you talk about elective ?

topkek

Never bother to mix with other culture doesn't mean its impossible to educate them. There is no harm in trying. One subject only, it won't kill you to take those subjects.

We are talking about useless subjects and I was talking about useless elective subjects since the first post.

Why did you quote me at first place?

ayam fren all hafal like cb

ayam dont gip fark

just merepek and say what i wont be doing je

same grade with them also

kem

Dumb-down education. Due to the fact that is lack of specialty jobs. All gov wants is dumb workers for the country so to continue the agenda to milk ppl dry.

Sed sedig dgn populis berpisah tiada
he think in obersi dun hav diz sozial scieces, philosophy subjec etc.
instead of you remove, why don uni revises the course's subject. compare lah apa industri guna dgn subjek yg hang suruh student belajar

#seventwo4MP

This post has been edited by seventwo: Oct 8 2021, 01:00 PM

Early post I check Tar University accounting elective not useless. Only compulsory is useless. I cakap you fitnah saying elective useless.



TAR U elective
Principles of Accounting
Economics
Quantitative Studies
Principles of Management
IT Fundamentals and Applications
Financial Accounting
Management Accounting
Principles of Finance
Principles of Taxation
Information and IT Security
Decision Management
Financial Accounting Framework
Fundamentals of Auditing
Advanced Financial Accounting
Operations Management
Financial Management
Business & Corporate Law
Taxation
Business Strategy
Performance Management
Advanced Taxation
Auditing
Advanced Accounting Practice
Entrepreneurship
Enterprise Resource Planning
Practical Training
Corporate Reporting & Current Issues
Services Marketing
Integrated Mangement
Integrated Case Study
Public Sector Accounting
Accounting Theory & Practice


But

Compulsory Courses: rclxub.gif

English for Tertiary Studies,
Academic English,
English for Career Preparation,
Tamadun Islam dan Asia,
Critical Thinking,
Hubungan Etnik,
Contemporary Malaysian Issues,
Bahasa Kebangsaan A

See post 35, UK University ada yang tiada useless compulsory

This post has been edited by tikaram: Oct 8 2021, 01:02 PM

Facts:

i. All degrees need at least 120 credits.
ii. Most degrees run 120 credits but spread through 4 years to not burden students too much, and leave the 3rd sem (short sem) free for break.
iii. If you take out 20 credits of MPWU, then the degree will be short by 20 credits.
iv. When this happens, the programme will fill up the gap with whatever electives they want.

Syed Saddiq is trying to champion the youngsters by making the degree shorter. Taking out the MPWU does not shorten the programme in any way, just merely giving the programmes more flexibility at teaching things that are more relevant.

As a lecturer of 20 years, there are some merit to the MPWU, such as English and stuffs. It's easier to let students learn this rather than wasting our expertise to teach them as part of the program. But I do believe that the schools should determine what's suitable or not suitable in their programmes, not the MOHE or MQA.

Bullshit this syed..
I did alot as UPM alumni

Review courses syllabus..
Enhance new module education related to industry..
As FYP pannelist to make sure the research tally Industry requirement

Can see UPM ranking much better now..

This post has been edited by darkLapland: Oct 8 2021, 01:06 PM


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Engineering syllabus under BEM/IEM? No?

Some kampung fella never come out before expect them to know other race ke? Asyik bumi milk siapa je

you retard no do good job make student belajar useless compulsory cources wasting time

Ayam UPM graduate and all my courcse make pun complaint useless suject

really dun have

since when overseas undergraduate programme have all those nonsense subjects?

Be like ikankering. Never been to uni but earn 100k every month

Why not just all agree to reduce the credits for a degree and abolish useless subjects at the same time?

Ayam spent 3 years only to get a degree...

I'm too lazy to take out my cert, but definitely there are few useless subjects in it just to make up the credits.

Titans is fckin shit subject

i dont know what programme did u take but in business programmes, there is no such thing as UK studies la, Ethnic Studies la, etc.

If u study accounting, u will learn everything about accounting.

if u study logistics, u will learn everything about logistics.

I took mechanical engineering, and there were few elective subjects that is totally unrelated to mechanical engineering.

Yes. Agreed. Malaysia Local Private University also have to imposed stupid studies like, Malaysia Studies = a junk when you already a local breed student.

What not, Reducing these subjects can help to make the student more competitive instead dwelling on unnecessary subjects that doesnt help local culture.


This post has been edited by Syie9^_^: Oct 8 2021, 01:15 PM

um so many useless compulsory

you tidur makan gaji ke?

why nobody tell sedik:




there is no sampah course, only sampah people

what are those elective subjects?

is it like UK Studies, Ethnic Studies, and other nonsense like what we have here?

come from Sampah lecturer. Period.

I agree. Same as …..

These can go study in Sunday school

My U have many sampah lecturer. Thats why we do ACCA, CIMA outside.

kecian you went to sampah uni met sampah lecturer now got ptsd

Yes. Something similar. Too useless I can't even recall the subject name

Attack on titans subject, i will get A

Tamadun Islam...Why not Tamadun India kek

Should intro pendidikan seks and hubungan pasangan...conlanfirm full house

Yeah, so traumatized. Pay for sampah like that, waste time on linkedin.

where did u study? United States?

all i know in UK for business programmes, there is no such thing. Even if there is elective, the subjects are still at least related to organisational purpose.

Not some ethnic studies, philosophy studies, etc.

U must be local grad katak bawah tempurung.

Overseas is 1Y A Level and 3 Y degree. Local is 2Y STPM and 4Y degree.

topkek.... overseas undergraduate got music class, antropology class etc etc also not only mereshia

It is a subject used to screw a select group of people.